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Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Lyon posted:

LIMS is a weird thing to get into, it seems like to get started you either need to transition into it organically or join a LIMS vendor and then leave to work for a customer. I say that because off the top of my head the three biggest players all use different technology stacks... LabWare is Small Talk based, StarLIMS is .NET, and LABVANTAGE is Java. The general idea between all Laboratory Information Management Systems is the same but actually administering them is very different.

I think your best bet would be to express interest in becoming a LIMS administrator/power user internally and transition from a lab role to a role in between lab and IT. You would essentially become an internal business analyst between the lab and the IT folks because you have the domain knowledge from the lab and you learned the tech lingo to communicate with IT.

I work for a LIMS vendor in sales/training so if you have any specific questions I'll do my best to answer them.

This is exceptional advice- LIMS needs an internal champion with lab expertise and as much as it sucks to lose a guy from my team to IT, it really is the best career move for him.

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Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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TouchyMcFeely posted:

Hey guys, do me and yourselves a favor and don't buy used equipment without getting the serial number and getting a service history from the manufacturer first.

I got a call from a guy at a company I'd never heard of before that purchased an instrument we haven't manufactured for 35 years. He was looking for installation and an estimate for repairs. Turns out after talking to him for a bit that the instrument was missing its power cord and some internal components. Unfortunately it also turned out that the instrument was a trade in and was not disposed of properly.

He got absolutely nasty when I told him that our policy was that we don't work on equipment that's already been traded in and even if we did there was no way we have the parts (or the knowledge) to fix his instrument.

The drat thing is older than I am.

Had he made a simple phone call before buying the thing I could have saved him whatever he spent on it and a whole lot of grief for both of us.

The same also holds true for equipment that's been mothballed and shoved in a corner somewhere. I ran across a guy trying to bring back an instrument 20+ years old complaining about not being able to get service on it. The worst part was all the responses of, "Yeah, what the hell? gently caress those guys!" when talking about the manufacturer/situation. Of course you're not going to be able to get service/installation on an instrument that old. The manufacturer is probably 3-4 generations past it and who is going to remember how to work on an instrument 2 decades out of date.

Just a friendly reminder from your friendly Customer Support Engineer.

It kinda sucks, because sometimes used equipment is a great value, but it's a gamble if they're worth the headache.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Hey look, it's the exact reason I got the gently caress out of academia.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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^^^^ oh god gently caress these people, "computer guy" has not been a jack of all trades skillset since the 60s

Whoa holy gently caress, I haven't been here in ages and this turned into PFE chat. Does anyone have any experience with Lilly? I have a pretty distinct feeling they're going to try and poach me in a few months, based on their expansion locally. I currently work in clinical genomics/diagnostics, so pharma may be a step down in stability, but they will probably be waving a few carrots.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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outlier posted:

Nope, in the world of bioinformatics, your chief skill is "doing things with computers". Software, hardware, any computer, anywhere in the world.

We work with a third-party database, run by a third-party, hosted offsite, etc. and I'm constantly getting requests that I "fix it". I explain I have no more access privileges than anyone else with an account but people are constantly asking me to: remind them of their password, reboot it, change the database structure / add a field, fix the reporting tools. One time after I explained this, they just mailed the request to my line manager asking him to "make me do this".

Gross, that's really outside your scope. Hope the line manager pushed back.

Thanks for the good words (and lack of red flags) about Lilly, it's in town so Indiana won't be a thing.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Sundae posted:

Oh hey - sorry, I missed this post. Long story short, Lilly in any laboratory role is pretty damned good.

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Well turns out their director hit me up directly and told me to apply. It's a senior R&D role with no relocation, I was talking to them for a few months and am currently working at a smaller genomics company but I'll go ahead and check it out. Thanks for the input!

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Sundae posted:

FYI -- "No relocation" often means "that's our starting point for negotiations." Twice now, companies have told me positions had no relocation available and then post-offer, suddenly had it available when I commented that there was no way I could take it without relo. Of course, that sure as gently caress didn't work out in my favor in the end, but hey! :haw:

Oh I meant it's six miles from my house :v:

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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I interviewed at Google Life Sciences, Natera, and Counsyl and the housing situation was a major turnoff. I would be losing money if I didn't go for a 50% raise. Housing and commuting is chump-level for anyone that doesn't take a helicopter to work.

Also my wife and I are probably doing the kid thing soon and juggling all that poo poo and child care sounds awful.

Bastard Tetris fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Sep 3, 2015

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Here's to selling out :v:

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Get facilities to gas the gently caress out of it, then use sticky pads on the floor of every ingress point.

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I am so loving glad I left academia

Johnny Truant posted:

Pretty sure I'm going to get to be the lucky sonofagun who, eventually, will do a deep clean of our fridges(hooray :toot:), but what do you mean sticky pads on the floor of the ingress points? Do you mean like weather sealing things, like what you put under your door to keep a draft from entering?

The mold has claimed you at this point, but you need tacky paper that people can walk over which will pull all the mold spores off their shoes or close airborne ones. I am pretty sure big places like fisher/vwr sell em.

I was beaten to this post, but whatever.

2nd round interviews at Lilly, and I'm getting stockholm syndrome at my genomics startup. Life is p. good.

Bastard Tetris fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Oct 8, 2015

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Suspicious Lump posted:

Mind sharing some info on your genomics startup? Sounds cool!

We have 150 employees and the company is still going through a growth phase, so startup is a bit of a misnomer since we have a normal sounding name and actual committed VC backers.

We do NGS/Sanger based panels to look for specific hereditary diseases or health and wellness genes, then patients work with our GCs to come up with a managed care plan and stuff. Some of the newer panels are pretty sweet, but I can't really say much on the internet about them.

Edit: Found the mats!

https://us.vwr.com/store/catalog/product.jsp?catalog_number=89066-232

The bottom is sticky so you can't track anything into or out of the room. They're mostly for cleanrooms and aren't great against airborne stuff, but they totally help.

Bastard Tetris fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Oct 10, 2015

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Suspicious Lump posted:

Dude, 150 is not startup. Good job! Did you work in genomics/biology before this?

I'm about 3 weeks away from starting a PhD in bioinformatics. Looking forward to all the programming and informatics.

I got my start in drug discovery specializing in laboratory automation for a nonprofit institute, then pivoted to automation engineer at a large energy company's R&D biotech core managing their robotics core. Large energy company had a couple bad years (now you can probably guess which one it is) and shut the site down. One of my last projects was designing an automated platform to do phenotypic strain construction on yeast using CRISPR. Anyways now I'm doing similar work in clinical genomic diagnostics. I found a cool niche, and 10 years in it's not a bad gig at all.

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outlier posted:

At an industry conference today (big data in life sciences). Lots of vendors, government officials, bureaucrats, and a few scientists. Worthwhile for me, but at times I've felt like making a bingo card:

My big conference is local this year and I kinda want to just get a local hotel and use it as an opportunity to have a staycation with my wife downtown, cause outside of regular networking there is so much hawked bullshit it's getting close to worthless outside of the fact that I get to be a VIP on an aircraft carrier.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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packsmack posted:

Hey, I hope someone here can help me. I work in a laboratory for a major company running tests for r&d, product certification, and investigation purposes (ie what part is contaminated and why). Ive been a temp here for 1 year. Now they're bringing me on full time.

My problem is I can't find a good average or starting salary number for a lab technician. Whenever I try and search for it I get results for medical lab techs which obviously isn't the same. Is there a keyword I'm missing or does anyone have knowledge about what a starting salary should be? I'm in the midwest.

I'd ask for 45-50k. Check out Glassdoor for similar positions and go from there.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Johnny Truant posted:

On top of this weather royally screwing with my sinuses, I get a call about an external autopsy today at work. I go to my supervisor to ask where to find the protocol. They get uppity and say, "You've done one of these before, you should have this memorized. It's what we pay you for." Yes, I've done literally one type of this case, nine months ago. Sorry I don't have a perfect memory?

But then to top it off, my supervisor says, "Oh wait, the <blahblah> study? I don't know that protocol, don't you have it? Oh here it is, but their protocol is wrong... I think? Yeah that gets transferred to pathology. Wait, no, we do it I think. Yes. No wait, we transfer it to Dr. Blahblah. No, no, we DO do it. At least you're getting paid!"

...so I get reprimanded for not remembering a very obscure(our lab has literally done one of these cases, since it's a fee for service) protocol I performed nine months ago, but my supervisor loses their protocol, forgets about the study entirely and gets snarky when questioned about it(this supervisor is who we contact with exactly the question I asked today) and... I'm supposed to respect this person as my lab supervisor? Really?

I got reprimanded today for taking initiative and making an equipment move happen 3 days ahead of schedule. I'm a senior research engineer. I'm pretty pissed, and during my exit interview I'm going to say I was micromanaged to a lovely degree.

I'm a round peg in a square hole company, pray for me goons

Bastard Tetris fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Nov 21, 2015

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Aww poo poo mothafucka

Got an offer one level higher than I interviewed for, with a substantial raise, building out a new 14,000 square foot lab with a team of 10. 2016 is gonna be a sweet year.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Discendo Vox posted:

You guys really ought to have a contracted specialist be doing that design work. There are default best practices for this sort of thing.

Yeah, most of the layout is already done, I'm in charge of doing some of the fine detail working with some of their specialists. If you have anyone you'd like to recommend, reply or PM and I can check them out.

It's a heavily automated lab working towards a protein therapeutics pipeline for a rather large pharma company. I start in January.

Now to have an awkward conversation with my current employer!

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Discendo Vox posted:

Sorry, the people I know best focus on academic medical centers, and are usually brought in at the institutional level. These guys also have a solid reputation. I'm not sure either group does the granular work you're looking at at this point. If you're running a larger scale (capital) lab project, though, ask for Bob Marriott. He developed most current research space planning practices.

Still worth checking out, thanks!

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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^^^^^^ :captainpop:

Dik Hz posted:

Where are you located? I know a really good lab cabinetry installer. But only works DC through Florida and out to Atlanta.

California, ruh roh. They know what they're doing though, we are moving across the street and the current building won a ton of awards for use of space, architecture, lab accessibility, etc.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Robots are loving assholes, never trust them

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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So I was about to present a ton of data at our weekly R&D meeting and got an email from our CSO saying "hey come see me in my office ASAP". I head in about 20 minutes later, and am told that there's a 25% staff reduction and that myself and an RA are getting the axe. No notice, no severance. No security or anything, the digital part was "delete email account from your phone". My last check is for 213 dollars.

Which was great cause I was wondering how I was going to manage giving notice on such a short timeframe. So yeah guys, if you work for small biotech, beware because it's frequently run by utter shitheads who will always do the worst possible thing.

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Apr 27, 2005

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Sundae posted:

Does your employer have 100 or more employees? If so, I recommend reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraining_Notification_Act

Yuuuuuup, contacting a labor attorney tomorrow. Doubt I have a case, but "my lawyer advised against it" will shut my department up when they're asking me to help un-gently caress their microfluidic chip loading methods in the following week.

I start at my new gig in January, woo!

Bastard Tetris fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Dec 7, 2015

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Pain of Mind posted:

I was under the impression there was a minimum # or % of employees laid off to qualify for WARN, something like 50 people?

Yup, they're just under the minimum. Apparently they do this fairly frequently, so I'm just gonna chalk it up to a lovely company. I also found out they signed me up for the wrong health plan, and I didn't notice until our visit to urgent care wasn't covered.

Happy holidays!

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Anyone going to SLAS next week? Every vendor I've ever worked with wants to ply me with drinks and swag and I can't accept any of it because I make capex decisions now :v

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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One of the liquid handlers I was in charge of was in the background during an interview on CBS Evening News this week while the CEO was frantically telling the interviewer that their test is actually scientifically valid :v:

I never thought I'd be happy getting laid off, but here I am.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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I miss having a stupidly high Capex budget.

Then again I'm getting an eight figure budget to build my new core, so at least there's that.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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john ashpool posted:

Was the ceo wearing a black turtleneck?

Hahah no, thank god. Just a nasally older white guy.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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I've worked with a lot of laboratory equipment for long enough that I can usually diagnose some mechanical issues by hearing them. Pharma here, so I guess the worst stuff we work with is a few mutagens and stuff here, a couple of our antibiotics are pretty nasty. Plus I'm older and go to lots of concerts so earbuds will probably just gently caress up my hearing.

In other news, the first drug that was engineered at our site got FDA approval last week. So much food and beer.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Solkanar512 posted:

gently caress, even my cheap rear end had protocols for stuffing the fridges with dry ice when the power went out.

Yeah that's incredibly shameful, we have all sorts of power backups set up, and contingencies for keeping poo poo running in case those fail.

My coworker and I just specced out all the power to our new lab, 600A :coal:

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I feel fuckin bad for our contract workers. They're skilled as hell and get a ton of stuff done, but as a new senior hire I probably make 3x in total comp that they do.

Also our site just got a drug to pass FDA approval. I had jack poo poo to do with it, but actually getting something to market is good and cool.

Bastard Tetris fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Apr 6, 2016

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Mourne posted:

At a GSK competitor's site, temps don't usually stay in one position long because they get BigPharma hours but not BigPharma benefits. And not necessarily BigPharma pay, either. Most temps I know are all trying to convert to BigPharma employee.

Quotin' dis. It's really bullshit cause it's hard to build institutional knowledge of operating complex multi-million dollar systems because people don't want to spend 5 years at entry-level. It's been especially hard since rent around here has gone through the roof, while wages are flat.

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I'm pretty sure my counterpart at work makes more than me at a big pharma company with a GED cause he's amazingly good at selling himself and understanding how to tackle problems.

As far as the labware washing and maintenance staff, I watch them like a hawk because if they've got a good mindset and are willing solve problems I can probably make some solid RAs out of em and give them a great resume/salary history to jump off of.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Goddamn, with my network, legal transgenic weed would be way better than my current BIG PHARMA job if I didn't have to deal with all the awful blowback from the marijuana industry. Then again with dabbing they seem to have solved that problem so they can get high as gently caress without me.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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Epitope posted:

What blowback is that? Anti GMOers?

Also for the record I was just poking fun. I'm definitely not anti weed, i have an application in for a license myself.

I meant more like getting straight up robbed. It happens a lot in CA dispensaries and grow operations.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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I'm trying to get end-to-end LIMS/sample tracking in our whole automated workflow set up but I really really really don't want to be the person in charge of it. God I hate being Captain Capex at work sometimes.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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PM me when you get a chance. Any business will be arm's length as all hell so I doubt you will be able to sell LIMS to a goon, but hey.

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Appachai posted:

Submitted my capex budget... 2.3mil. Wonder if I will get any of it!

We've got plans based on how much we're getting, should be tense!

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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I lucked out so loving hard not getting a Ph.D. I'm getting a little resistance breaking into the R track, but in a few years I should be there. Plus I'm already making as much them anyways.

Does anyone have an Octet HTX? I'm about to pull the trigger on one and wanted to know if there's anything I should look out for.

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Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

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I don't even know where to start with your situation, holy poo poo.

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