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I would look to the state academies first but if you can get in and want a free education and dont mind owing some sort of service then have fun. Fifth, part of the country you want to end up in. Im not an east coast fan and would recommend CMA because of that. Some schools have certain companies or regions that recruit from them. If you want to find a cake job as a stationary engineer in the SF Bay Area then CMA is the place. I dont know much about the east coast though. Thats about it. There will not be much difference between them otherwise. "BUT I HEARD THAT [ACADEMY] IS poo poo YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT" There is some difference in the regimentation of each school, CMA was known to be much more lax than other academies. They are currently tightening the regs and changing the school a lot. I have not compared the regimentation at each school so I dont know. As far as academics are concerned, F=MA is the same in Europe or the US and the Otto Cycle does not change just because you went through the Panama Canal. You should probably not listen to anyone who tells you different. My last Chief was a KP dropout who went to the MEBA school and he was pretty sharp but had no problem admitting his ignorance. He was of the opinion that anyone who could do their job and was willing and able to learn could not be a bad engineer. At the same time, unless you were in the process of making cold fusion a reality, it would be hard to say you were a great engineer. I tend to agree with him. I have a USCG 3rd A/E's license but just finished sailing as Electrician/Reefer/Oiler. I got out of school and worked in shore-side power plants for a but and then decided I wanted to go out to sea. After sitting in the MEBA union hall for four months and getting low on cash I took an E/R/O job through the MFOW and spent six months sailing in between New York and Singapore. It was a pretty rough six months. US shipping is pretty slow from January till about May when it starts to pick up. When you graduate from an academy there will be companies such as MSC specifically looking for recent graduates. There will also be unions such as AMO or MEBA who just want a license. If you have a dream job with a specific company then get your 4.0 and do whatever they want to guarantee it happens. Otherwise there is plenty of work available, mostly through unions, and nobody will care what your GPA is as long as you can do your job. Networking with your classmates is also a good job hunting resource. I started making $70k/year in power plants before I graduated. I get 6 figure job offers 5 years since graduation. As long as you arent an rear end in a top hat, are easy to work with and show an interest in the job/learning and know what you are doing people will be happy to work with you (for the most part). Just dont be an rear end in a top hat or try too hard to be a stereotype. I did not bring enough underwear or socks so bring enough for at least two weeks between washes. I also bought like 20-30 things of almonds at Wal-Mart when we hit the USEC and they lasted me for awhile. The most essential thing I brought was my Kindle. It only had like 50 books when I started out and I managed to acquire and finish over 100 more in the 6 months I was on. When you get to your first ship as a 3rd, dont be afraid to ask questions, they probably wont expect too much. You should know most of whats going on anyways. They will give you help or orientation (or should at least). If you gently caress up (you will), learn from it and move on. Just dont stress or freak out, be chill, follow your training and if you are in trouble call the 1st or Chief and ask questions or for help. Actually, you should probably be happy to play ignorant and just ask questions until they hate you and then ask more. After 4 months you get to get off and get a new ship (if you are union) and you get a clean slate. I have never had a problem with seasickness on anything over 500'. A 1000' container ship just does not move much and your officers will be doing their best to avoid anything real big anyways. Safety drills kill and injure a lot of people. I have some good pictures from my last trip. Diesel ships can run with unmanned engine rooms, some might have a watch. Steam ships usually run with a manned engine room. Everything depends on the contract, company and Coast Guard. 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FrozenVent posted:Tons and tons of socks. If you figure you'll need 5 pairs, bring 12. A set of long underwear (Good pajamas, and the basis of any good cold winter gear if it gets cold). Immodium. Ex-lax. Extra deodorant. I wouldn't go so far as to bring my own pillow, but that's up to you. Soap and laundry soap are usually supplied by the company, but I wouldn't rely on their bar soap. It's usually cheap as gently caress. Maybe pack an extra toothbrush, in case yours goes flying off the shelf and land in the toilet. (True story) What I managed to fit in my duffel bag (US military green duffel) and my hiking pack. PS3 with games MacBook Pro Barely took a week and a halfs worth of socks and underwear, picked up more at Wal-Mart Kindle T-Shirts/tank tops (didnt wear t-shirts, too hot, grabbed more tanks at WM) Boots/sandals/tennis shoes Coveralls, Carharts, Dickis workshirts (Coveralls for the hot areas, switched to the pants and shirts in the Atlantic) At least 4 pairs. Shorts/jeans/Dickis polos for port Used my phone as my alarm clock. My own warm blanket. Ive been on ships in cold weather without enough bedding. It sucks. Toiletries. Bring soap/toothpaste/toothbrush/shaving needs/chapstick/moisturizer/deodorant Nalgene or other water bottle. You need this. Bring it. Also brought some of my own tools (multimeter, dykes, linemans pliers) just in case. You should not do this unless you dont care if you lose them the 1st day or they would be INDISPENSABLE to the job. Thats pretty much it. Plan for weather, hot or cold. I did not bring foul weather gear/cold weather gear since I was on during summer in the Atlantic or in the Red Sea/Indian Ocean waiting to get the gently caress out. Also our A/C didnt work for around 10-15 days during the first trip so it was hot no matter what. lightpole fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Mar 1, 2011 |
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 Click here for the full 1446x1080 image. Cutter approaching basket. This is on the stbd side. We could not control basket movement to port (towards camera) and the cutter is bobbing around like a motherfucker, dont be fooled by how calm the picture looks.  Click here for the full 1446x1080 image.  Click here for the full 1446x1080 image.  Click here for the full 1446x1080 image.  Click here for the full 1446x1080 image. As soon as he hit the deck the cutter hit full reverse (I dont blame the cpt, if they hit us they didnt stand a chance) and the basket snagged in the cutters lifelines with the hook still attached. Luckily they got it free alright.  Click here for the full 1446x1080 image. At this point he is safe on-board the cutter, although he has nothing except the coveralls he was wearing the last night when the accident happened (he claimed he slipped on a ladderwell in the port DG room). The cutters cpt decided he had had enough and that he was getting out and took him to the hospital, happy ending for everyone. He died in the hospital in India of a heart attack while sitting up talking to the ships agent, totally unrelated to his accident. The hospital double checked the medical officers handiwork and could find nothing wrong with him prior to this. Anyways heres a picture of the Red Sea at sunset. Its not a very happy day because I have around 5 weeks left. At least its my last trip.  Click here for the full 1446x1080 image. Two Finger posted:I'm a little jealous, I REALLY want to go back to sea. You are an idiot.
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FrozenVent posted:Holy poo poo, that transfer. I thought you were just handing off his body until I read the end of your post; that's just loving scary. Most ships run 220v power for sockets. If you see a weird looking plug with two round holes you are looking at a 220v power source. Dont plug in your 110v cord to these outlets. Just because you are studying to be a mate does not mean you have to be ignorant. It is difficult to maintain a steady 60 hz on the diesels and shaft generator since load is constantly shifting, the governors need to be rebuilt and the engines need to be re-timed. The shaft generator saves the engineers from having to do the hourly maintenance on the generators every ten days and saves a ton of fuel. You can turn off your time update on your cellphone usually.
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In the US I was under the impression that the deck side of things is quite crowded while the engine side has a little more room to find a job. Aside from better job prospects you will also have an easier time moving to a shore side job if you ever want to stop sailing. Right out of college I was able to get jobs paying $30-$45/hr on shore, basically making 6 figures on shore right out of school due to contract structure. Deck cannot do that. I find my work through unions or simply networking for the most part. If you are interested in a particular company you need to do your research and go to the job fairs and stuff for it. During the recession jobs have been more difficult to find but there is always something decent out there. angryhampster it depends on what country you are in. An OS in the US I think would make around $5k a month but Im not sure. I would say if you are young and want to make money and have a lot of time off its worth it. If you are older with a family you should stay home unless you are starving and your wife left you and took the kids. Dual licenses used to be offered, I know Kings Point offered them but has stopped. The only way to go now is to get a mates license with a QMED rating, Cal Maritime still offers this option but its a lot of work. I have a friend who sails MMP and then heads over to the MFOW and grabs work. It works for him since jobs arent easy to get in MMP and they might not pay well while he has enough time for his 3rd A/E and a decent amount of cash from MFOW. lightpole fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Mar 27, 2011 |
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FrozenVent posted:You sound like my mother. Your girlfriend's safe, she has access to laundry, and she eats her fill every day the cook doesn't gently caress up. Calm down. From my experience with academy girls and his whining Im betting she is twice the man he is. A steam ship will usually run a watch schedule of 4 on 8 off but you usually get 4 hours of OT during whatever 8-4 time you dont have watch. On diesel ships you will usually have an 8-5 schedule with 15-30 minute coffee breaks at 10 and 1500 and a 1 hour lunch from 12-13. This can vary depending on what your chief/1st wants. Its not hard to live anywhere you want working out of the union hall. As a group 3 MEBA 3rd it can be difficult but once you are able to pick up Sealand/Horizon jobs and you have a 2nds you can live where-ever you want. Working out of the union hall you kinda have an idea of when you are going to ship out as well, unless a friend calls you up and tells you when to be in the hall cause a job is coming in you want.
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goku chewbacca posted:I'm not really understanding completely with all the acronyms and maritime jargon and various education and career paths and positions. Most abbreviations are just unions/companies. MSC - Military Sealift Command, US Gov. MFOW - Marine Firemens, Oilers and Wipers Union MEBA - Marine Engineers Beneficiary Association AMO - American Merchant Officers SIU - Sailors something Union SUP - Sailors Union of the Pacific MM&P - Masters, Mates and Pilots Those are most of the US unions. I would have to say schooling is the best way to go even though it sucks. I had quite a few people in my class who were older and had returned to school. Job length depends. Union contracts are mostly 90-120 days before you have to get off in the first US port. I was on a "shuttle" so I stayed on for 180 days. Some of my friends sailing permanent are working 2 on 2 off or 3 on 3 off. Ask Mercury Ballistic about MSC's schedule. If you are looking for something specific you can probably find it. On most ships you get paid so much because of the OT. My last ship I had a $27/hr base and OT was time and a half. I put in 1300 hours of OT over 189 days. Just remember that the more hours you put in the rougher it is on your body and your brain. When you get on a ship you can either try and be a dick to everyone or just be chill and get along. I find its better to try and enjoy whatever you can since the situation is loving miserable anyways. Working with a lot of Filipinos and old guys you find common ground and figure out how to enjoy it. Most people just try to make the best of it but you still see some assholes.
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greenchair posted:What happens if someone gets really sick? Do you worry about pirates or have weapons on board? What if someone goes nuts, is there any kind of jail or something? How much living space is there, just your room and cafeteria or are there a lot of common areas or a gym or anything? Is there internet and are there many access points? Do you think that more amenities for crew members would be worth it to a shipping company because it'd make it easier to hire workers (and maybe not have to pay them as much?)? The 2nd mate or one of the other mates is usually designated as the medical officer and has some medical training. They are supplemented by the company/medical offices shoreside if they run into a situation they need help with. Basic medical is pretty routine, the complicated stuff that calls for an evac means the ship is diverted (see my picture post in this thread) and the person is evaced. Ships have a medical bay with equipment to deal with small wounds/illness/whatever. Dead bodies are tossed in the freezer. The main pirate region at the moment is the Red Sea out into the Indian Ocean. Pirates look for slow moving ships with low free-board so they have an easier time getting on board. I went through the region 6 times. The ship I was on had very high free-board (the deck was very high off the water) and we did 26+ knots through so we were not an easy target. There were pirate attacks just about every time I was in the region with the USMC storming a ship with a Ukrainian crew and having to cut through a bulkhead into the focsle and shove an american flag through to convince them they werent pirates. US flagged vessels do not carry weapons (some MSC ships might) although the Alabama carries a private security team now and others might as well. If people lose it mentally they can be locked in their stateroom or some such measure and put under guard before being put off at the next port. My staterooms are usually pretty large. Most ships will have an officers area and a crew area, 2 separate messes, 2 separate lounges. Most people chill out in their staterooms and watch movies or read. Theres a decent amount of socialization. Gyms can be hit or miss. Most entertainment stuff is not paid for by the company but put together out of a crew fund that comes from different sources. Email is usually available but it might be restricted in size and only go out several times a day. Noone is sailing for the amenities, the only thing that matters is the paycheck. Sorry somethingawesomer, sailors can be pretty strange as it is and the women that get into it are usually not normal. If you take shortcuts you can put yourself in dangerous situations but many of them are manageable. Ive never been asked to put myself in a situation I thought was a danger to myself or others. Anytime I have had safety concerns they have been addressed.
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FrozenVent posted:You're saying the men who get into it are normal? There is one American flagged cruise ship that MEBA has. The pay is quite low but you work 8 months out of the year so you can get your group 1 card pretty fast which is pretty important. Washington State Ferries are good jobs but they require certain courses for crowd control or something. Getting the required courses isnt that easy. Sometimes you have to take the first job you can, sometimes you can wait for the money job or the ship you like or whatever. I never said the men were normal. In an extremely masculine field with so many hosed up situations Ive found it takes a certain kind of female that wants to work in it.
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AMO doesnt really use a union hall but most of the other unions do. You go to the hall and register. You get a card stamped with the date you registered. As a new member you would be a group 3 or C card or something like that. At a certain time, 1200 or so for nationwide unions, the administrative people will post jobs on a board in the hall and people looking for work will put in their card. Group 1 or A members have priority and get first pick. If there are no cards or they dont want a job, it moves to group 2 or B or whatever. If there are still jobs then it moves to group 3. The oldest card of the group gets first pick and it works its way down to the newest. You need to make sure your paperwork is in order before looking for work though. Its important to get all your courses and medical and drug tests and union dues and whatever else you need done otherwise you will not be working. If all the jobs arent taken they are sent to the other halls and members there can take them. There is also day/night work that goes out of the halls. Ships come in to port and either need people to work during the day, assisting with piston pulls, cleaning, doing whatever maintenance the crew cant handle or need someone to stand watch to cover for the ships engineers. The jobs are usually for 8 hours and pay the OT rate so you can make quite a bit of money but the downside is you are paid the same if you are working holidays or OT. If the ship is late or sails early you are still paid for your 8 hours. There are quite a few tricky technical details about that stuff in the contracts so thats basically the gist of it.
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walrusman posted:This thread has been a great read so far; thanks! Engine department consists of the Chief Enginer, 1st A/E, 2nd A/E, 3rd A/E, an electrician, maybe a refrigeration tech and some kind of utility. Steam ships can vary with maybe another 3rd to stand watch and a couple more utilities. The utility will take care of most of the cleaning and mundane tasks, turbo washes, clean filters, chip carbon on steam ships or assist an engineer with a task if needed. The electrician takes care of all the electrical. Motors, breakers, elevators, rebuild contactors that were never supposed to be rebuilt with parts you dont have etc. They also assist with the reefers or take care of them if there is no reefer tech. Reefer tech watches all the reefer boxes on the ship and takes care of the A/C and chill box aux. equipment. Engineers: The chief is in charge and usually takes care of paperwork. They let the 1st know what needs to get done. 1st Engineer will direct everyone on maintenance and work with them. 2nd and 3rd usually get their own projects or assist in someone elses project. On a diesel ship the focus is on maintenance. Diesel is dirty and needs tons of cleaning to burn. The 2nd usually spends most of his time cleaning the purifiers. Filters are pulled frequently as well and cleaned. Hourly maintenance on all equipment is performed, from the purifiers to the air compressors, diesel generators, main engine and whatever else. Ports also need to be prepped for, LO, FO and slops brought on or off, spare equipment, cleaners, whatever might be needed. Once the routine stuff is done small projects that make your job easier or life a little nicer can be worked on to keep busy. On a steam ship you get to spend 8 hours staring at gauges. The second 3rd leaves the 1st A/E free for any work that needs to be done. AMO and MEBA both have technical schools and classes for their members. The AMO school is in Florida and the MEBA school is Calhoun. Engine manufactures and other vendors also provide courses. The academic curriculum is fairly complete at the academies. I think I graduated with over 120 credits and I wasnt even an ME. You get all the general reqs, which are kind of glossed over since they arent important. The classes in my major went through steam and diesel plants, thermo, fluids, materials and the other theoretical stuff, day work which actually had us working on engines, the cruise portions (8 credits apiece I think it was), all the cadet type stuff you have to do (formation, watchstanding, uniforms) and the USCG exam at the end. Thats a fair gist of it but I left a lot out so if you have more specific questions Ill be able to go into more detail. Oh yeah, MFU and SUP have better payscales and union reps.
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walrusman posted:Thanks for the replies, guys. To clarify where I'm coming from, I'm not looking for a fun diversion or gap year (god I hate that term) bullshit. I'm just sitting on an engineering degree that I can't seem to put to work, and I'm at a phase in my life with few connections and a thirst for -- yeah I'll go ahead and say it -- adventure. I have experience working in close quarters, I get along with everybody, and I find I really like a mix of manual labor and brainy poo poo. What's not to love about a high-demand field that pays you poo poo-heaps of money and then gives you several months off with which to enjoy it? If you have any practical experience theres plenty of shoreside work. I get job offers from the local stationary engineers union all the time. The pay usually starts around $40/hr with a pension and solid benefits. You can also look through power companies, they are always looking for people to live in some miserable part of the country.
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I dont know about the deck side but all my friends who worked in the gulf on rig supply vessels had nothing good and a lot of bad to say. The jobs are dirty, hot and miserable, I dont know anyone who has actually stayed with it for very long after graduation.
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When you get off a ship in a foreign country usually the visa or shorepass you are given restricts you to a 30 mile radius from the ship or something like that. Getting off a ship to go on vacation is not going to happen for most of the reasons that have been already listed. A lot of countries hate letting sailors in just to catch a ship. Ive heard horror stories of people trying to get from the airport to the ship after layup in Singapore. Normally when you get in, customs comes on board and clears everyone and everything goes like clockwork. Within a few hours you are able to get off and do whatever (cant leave country). If you have to fly in you are escorted from the plane to the ship every step and not allowed to deviate. Karachi was even worse, Pakistan customs didnt even want to let us off and made all the unlicensed lock up their booze in the slop chest. As a sailor you arent some tourist with a nice visa that lets you wander around and do whatever. Everything gets very tricky, very fast.
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AlphaDog posted:I was advised by my psychiatrist that if I didn't disclose my condition in a job like that, and something bad happened, then I might be liable for damages. I believe they also perform a medical history check of some sort where you're required to disclose existing conditions, which would gently caress me. It nearly hosed me for an IT job at a transport company, because they disqualify truck drivers with serious mental illness and the stupid loving HR department couldn't understand that I would have nothing whatsoever to do with trucks, apart from maybe seeing one on my drive to work. You need to disclose everything. In the US you are attesting to the fact that everything you say is true and if someone finds out otherwise you are hosed, its really not worth it. I am a type I diabetic and have a waiver allowing me to sail as an officer so most stuff can be worked around but not in your case. Ugh union physical is the worst but I need to go back to work. Last one though. lightpole fucked around with this message at 20:00 on May 13, 2011 |
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HandOverFist posted:With a passport, twic, mmd, the safety/first aid course in hand in the US how easy is it to find work by applying for deck hand positions or would hiring a head hunter or joining a union be a better option? With just an OS cert on your MMD it might not be easy. You could try looking through tug companies or large companies like MSC but most places are looking for AB's since there is not much OS work around. SUP will have some OS jobs as well.
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shovelbum posted:Sadly, I'm American. I am guessing that makes it hopeless without 6 years of education or 60 years of experience, like every other job in this country. Maritime academies are 4 year college programs that give you a degree and a license if you so desire. Its a pretty quick and cheap pathway to an easy 6 figures.
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Two Finger posted:4 years? Mine's only three... My program was an ABET accredited engineering program in the US which means I got my 3rds, a degree and if I wanted I could have gone for my EIT and then PE. The returns on the PE would not have been worth it though. To fit all that in I completed around 120 units which pretty much means 10 months of 8-5 classes a year not including time spent on homework/studying and any extracurricular activities.
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I would say a quarter of my class goes straight to a local shore job. The IUOE local rates here start around $30-$40/hr. To get those you have to be a little flexible. Some of my friends sailing out of Seattle can't come anywhere near that unless they go field service or something lovely. The degree just opens up more options which is always a good thing.
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90 day fly out to Japan. Oh God I'm not ready to work.
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Ro/Ro going where-ever so I have no idea. Possibly between Japan/Korea for military cargo or something but thats just a guess.
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localized posted:I heard from a friend that RoRos have some of the nicest crew accommodations. Confirm/deny? From what Ive seen its just another ship, the accommodations can only get so nice. On a ship space that isnt used towards cargo is wasted space and a loss of money. There are some parts of the ship that cant be used for certain cargo types which is where the crew and engine goes. The more space available, the more things you can put in there but only if the company wants to pay for it.
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Yeah the only Ro/Ro I've been on were grey hulls which are totally different. All flights to Japan canceled due to a typhoon. At least I got most of my errands done and can relax instead of rushing around.
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Finally, fly out to Nagoya tomorrow. I finally remembered what I had heard about this company, they like to keep people on as long as they can so they dont have to buy plane tickets from the states to Japan, business class at that. Ive also heard questionable things about the food but we will see. Im not too worried about the sea time since I need it for the union and my license upgrade. I did 6 months my last ship and as long as this ship is lower stress without an rear end in a top hat chief and 1st Ill be ok. I think I spent over $200 on snacks and half my duffel is filled with almonds, sunflower and pumpkin seeds.
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International flights are all business class by contract. gently caress CD's thats what hard drive is for. Much smaller too.
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J Corp posted:Signed on to a RoRo tramp ship a few hours ago, setting sail the morning after tomorrow. Did you get the Green Dale or Wave?
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J Corp your ot rate is my penalty rate and I get 2 hours OT and 14 penalty on my duty night for sitting on my rear end. Unless you are already close going through the hawsepipe is a waste of time. Anything special you might learn over those years should be picked up by a new 3rd in his first 6 months. I know you are close and dont want to bring you down but anyone looking to get in should go to school if they figure out its something they can handle. The course load and workis brutal and all the academies have some sort of regimntation which drives a lot of people off so drop out rates are high. Engineers are all but garunteed to make 80k or more on graduation. Deck a little less. My expectedpay is 90k in 6 months work as a 3rd. I have no problems getting it. Im on the Green Cove now, 42 days of drifting before we got cargo. We were out of food by the time we got back to Japan. The cook was making ramen noodle packets for breakfast. Its not hard to sneak some booze back on the Bear. One of my friends dropped a 5th of rum on the quarterdeck getting back on board and just kept on walking. The mate on watch said he should have picked it up 1st. I was thinking about grabbing an lwo spot on there for kicks since the cruise this summer looked awesome but I would rather get paid. shovelbum if you make it through you wont have a problem with work, just keep a good attitude and show up ready and willing to work and learn. Its not rocket science out here, more a be able to work with others because you cant get away from them thing. I think SUNY was just ranked in the top 5 schools for money and jobs. The other maritime schools have the same options but also some different majors that bring the averages down. You have nothing to feaar if you can make it. Also steam is loving awesome. No dirty rear end diesel manifold to leak everywhere and be really loud. Just boil water all day. Sorry for the post, Im on duty and only have my kindle for internet. 3 weeks to Hono then on to Mexico, Panama, Puerto Rico and Jacksonville where my 90 is up.
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Been off for 3 weeks and its almost time to look for work again. I need another 50ish days this year. I realized I get a little weired and grumpy after about 100 days or so.
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Oct 12, 2011 02:22
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What happened? Post pics. FV NZ is pretty short on engineers currently right? Whats it take to get a job down there coming from the US? Any idea?
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Oct 13, 2011 07:37
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FrozenVent posted:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...o-1226164873611 Sorry meant Two Fingers. All my STCW's are up to date as far as I know, I was under the impression that the USCG was fairly tough. Up until recently the exchange rate worked against mariners working foreign and living stateside but now Canada, Australia and I think even New Zealand are all looking pretty good and I wouldnt mind living in any of them, especially NZ.
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Oct 14, 2011 07:37
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FrozenVent posted:Chevron still has tankers? I thought all the oil companies had gotten "out" of the transportation business after that one incident in Alaska... Jones Act means companies need US flagged tankers. Polar is ConocoPhillips, SeaRiver I think is Exxon, Chevron has their own. Theres also ATC and OSG.
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Oct 21, 2011 17:10
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PowerJew posted:Yep, Chevron's fleet is in the 20's but that is international. US fleet consists of four product tankers bought from seabulk. SeaRivers fleet consists of all of ATC's old steamers that have to last till at least '14 when the ships they just ordered will finally be built.
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Oct 21, 2011 18:22
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Fish Shalami posted:Just sent off my paperwork to USCG to upgrade to my 2nd Engineers Motor and Steam, hopefully there are no hold-ups. The 3rds are doing like 90k for 6 months or around the same as the union working 12s right?
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Oct 22, 2011 01:11
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FrozenVent posted:The newer boats that are being built in China have them, seeing as they're bulk carriers and have to be somewhat SOLAS compliant to be hauled over there. The newish tankers all have them, and so do those tiny new project cargo boats. I make it a point to never be in a life unless its in the water or locked in the cradle. Why would you ever want to voluntarily launch in one that poo poo is dangerous.
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Oct 25, 2011 05:18
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There go the Horizon D-8s. Ugh, jobs.
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Oct 26, 2011 02:28
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Horizon is (most likely permanently) laying up its 5 D-8 class vessels because they are broke so less jobs to go around.
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shovelbum posted:Also interested in hearing about breaking into the oil field jobs, what has been helpful in landing those for people? I'm just a scrub-rear end cadet so I figure better start asking this stuff early. Last I heard Transocean hired 3rds out of school for the most part although sometimes they have listings on their site. Im betting PowerJew got in as a 2E through their site. I have another friend working for Maersk Drilling, he said internet applications are pretty much where its at, just try to get in and get experience wherever you can. Make sure you go to whatever job fairs your school has and pay attention to when companies come around for interviews. If you have a career center make friends with the people there and see if they can help. Otherwise your teachers might know people as well. If you have an interest in a particular company that doesnt recruit out of your school try to work with someone on campus to set up a contact/interview. Companies like to hire right out of school for some reason, at least for 3rds, so sometimes it best to get your foot in the door early, set up contacts and maybe even see if they take cadets on as interns.
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US shipping companies: Polar Tankers SeaRiver Tankers Chevron (MEBA but I believe they have right to hire) Army Corps of Engineers MSC (Government) Unions: MEBA AMO Rigs: Transocean Maersk Drilling Field Service: Solar Turbines GE Siemens Local 39 International Union of Operating Engineers (California/Nevada) Power Industries Consultants NAES Warstila MAN Ive heard of some tug&barge companies needing engineers that pay well. Thats a short list but I havent looked for a job in awhile.
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