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Notahippie posted:There's two big shifts in his character between M&C and Post Captain. His relative wealth/inheritance in Spain* and the fact that he's suddenly an intelligence agent for the British Government where in M&C there's no hint of it an in fact he explicitly says that he's completely done with politics of all stripes. My take has always been that these changes are less a reflection of changes in his thinking as a person, and instead they're changes that O'Brien made when he decided to turn a one-off book into a series. I think the two changes give him a lot more plot hooks to develop and O'Brien inserted them for authorial strategy reasons rather than natural character development. Yeah, that's my reading of it too.
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Tias posted:Tag for following. I've only just started reading Master and Commander, is there commentary on it in this thread somewhere? I'm having a lot of trouble getting the slang. Here are translations for the foreign phrases: http://www.saignon.org/FINE%20BOOKS/PERPLEXED/CLASSIC/Classic2004.htm For the ship parts I just used google. There are some guide books too, but I haven't read them. e: and here are the various Aubreyisms explained: https://hmssurprise.org/aubreyisms ChubbyChecker fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Jun 24, 2020 |
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Molybdenum posted:ive said this before but this series of books was my first introduction into the genre as a whole. after obrian i read the dudley pope series, cs forester and now im reading bernard cornwall's sharpe novels. i feel like im always chasing the high i got from reading obrian and i may never get it again except for the inevitable re-reads. exactly the same thing happened to me
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Strange and Norrell is one of my favorite books. It's very much a manners comedy, like O'Brian, Austen, etc, so if you enjoy the humor from the latter two, I think you'll enjoy Strange and Norrell. yeah, and he has the same format in his viking books
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:I'm far from the only person who has noticed this: there's also an ancient front page article: https://www.somethingawful.com/awful-movie-database/sharpes-piss-pot/
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That's fuckin great! 
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:What a bunch of prudes we've become. no idea, i found it in the cursed pics thread and formal dinners haven't disappeared, and no one is stopping you from organizing one
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:It really freaks me out every time I remember the current head of the FBI is a Mr. Wray haha
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Patrick Tull's narration
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Yeah it's definitely skipped and there are plenty of opportunities. At one point I went through some of the battles and there are places where impossible directions are given, and others where the behavior of the vessel seems contradictory. Could you post some examples.
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Sax Solo posted:(That ships' wheel gif was still hosed so I fixed it up, lol ... Can't wait to be wrong, or to be right and still the wiki fuckers out-stubborn me.) I found out years ago that it's useless to try and fix errors in Wikipedia since some wikilord sitting on the article will just revert it back.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:What do these people watch? probably disney and marvel ips
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Master and Commander is currently free to watch if you have Amazon Prime. all movies are free to watch if you have a vpn
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Stringent posted:How is it if you've read the books? I remember seeing a snippet of it and wasn't too impressed. It's great. There were some things that weren't perfect, eg. a hobbit Bonden, and Aubrey should have been more jolly, and Maturin more religious, but it's still one of the best adaptations that I've ever seen. The ship sounds so alive if you have a surround system. And she looks great too. I wouldn't recommend watching it from a cell phone.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I think Maturin is actually cast well, but having listened to all the Patrick Tull audiobooks of the series, I can't here the doctor in any voice but Tull's. It's a shame it didn't turn into a longer series-you would think a huge chunk of the cost was getting the ship built and once they had that it would be much cheaper to make subsequent movies or shows. Yeah, apart from Bonden the cast was good to great. Maybe Awkward Davies could have been bigger. And Killick was absolutely perfect.
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builds character posted:I love it too and, going back to hornblower chat too, I haven't found anything that scratches quite the same itch. There are other books that are also good and I enjoy (and I read a couple of the hornblowers and they were fine books) but nothing I love in the same way as these. absolutely same i read some bolithos too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bolitho_novels i've tried chasing the same high but nothing really compares
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Sax Solo posted:Yeah it's my favorite of the books I think. Some people criticize it of being derivative of Austen. I don't think it is, and to the extent it may be -- well, I like Austen too! in my first read through i didn't much care for it, but on the second time i kinda liked it
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Finally after twenty years of attempts I convinced someone I know offline to actually read Master and Commander post his takes on the next 20 books
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Arglebargle III posted:Sailing question: where is the half-deck exactly? before the quarterdeck or after the forecastle
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uPen posted:https://deadline.com/2021/06/20th-century-master-and-commander-patrick-ness-1234769535/ 
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Beefeater1980 posted:Black Sails managed, somehow, and it has great naval shots and battles. it was a horrible show
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Genghis Cohen posted:While it certainly made an effort on atmosphere and had good production values, I rather agree this show was pure schlock in terms of plot. I couldn't take the interminable monologues by every character going on and on about their convoluted plans and quasi-philosophical worldview. Stop arranging alliances and immediately double-crossing each other and then reconciling god drat it! Tias posted:Seriously. Every pirate on it looks like some Jersey Shore spray tanned brawndo, and they clearly borrowed the Vikings people on set and costume design i'm very much into pirate and ship shows and really wanted to like the black sails, but i had to bow out in the first episode
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builds character posted:Have I got the movie for you! Similar era to Aubrey and Maturin too. hah
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Class Warcraft posted:The book is actually pro-fascist. no, but it's a widespread belief
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Class Warcraft posted:I'm not inclined to give Heinlein: a rabid anti-communist, proponent of nuclear testing, and pro-war partisan the benefit of the doubt, but you do you. starship troopers isn't a good book, and heinlein wasn't a good person, but that still doesn't make the book or the author fascist, "but you do you"
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Class Warcraft posted:Thank you Heinlein Defender, for correcting everyone else’s interpretation of a book perhaps you should learn to read
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Class Warcraft posted:Here is a pro-tip: no one needs you here to arbitrate opinions about lovely right-wing sci-fi authors. do you often get this angry when people don't share your opinions?
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Mr. Mambold posted:If he'd stopped at the Russian border and decided to consolidate a continental European Union and eventually made peace with Britain, he coulda been a contendah for George Washington of Europe instead of a megalomaniacal bum, which is what he was, let's face it. Why would the Brits have made peace with him? And Napoleon's consolidation wasn't working very well in Spain.
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Mr. Mambold posted:Who knows, it's all speculative, ain't it. He didn't have a realistic end-game, and from all accounts he was a mediocre chess player. Nappy sending more troops to Spain wouldn't have helped much, because he already had huge troubles supplying the troops that were already there. If he had just sent his massive Russian invasion force to Spain, they would just have starved there. Britain didn't lose much in the short term from losing the 13 colonies, because they they could reap most of the benefits from trading, and they weren't an existential threat, unlike Napoleonic France. The most important colonies were the sugar producing Caribbean ones. You are quite correct that Napoleon didn't have a realistic end goal, and he would just have kept on gambling with invasions until he lost.
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Deeters posted:Ahoy, thread. I finally read Master and Commander last year, loved it, and picked up the next few. I'm currently in the middle of HMS Surprise. I went down to the local library's book sale today and walked away with all this for $12. a nice haul!
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Arglebargle III posted:I'll be honest this always confused me might have to try that
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Arglebargle III posted:I don't agree I don't see Dylan as a villain and I don't think Maturin is a loyalist. Padeen doesn't have any political ideology. A failed Irish revolutionary being active in later independence movements around the world is very realistic. maturin in the first book and in the rest is essentially a different character
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builds character posted:Jack is miss piggy.
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Phy posted:Laudanum Stephen
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:https://twitter.com/Marri/status/1538896871208411136?s=20&t=PI1HdM0rB2NIlb_uqKDq3Q wouldn't all the triangular sails before the foremast be jibs?
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A Proper Uppercut posted:I recently started reading this series. Or rather, listening to the audiobooks. I've listened to a lot but I think this is easily the best narration I've ever heard, it really brings things alive. Yeah, Patrick Tull is amazing.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Been cleaning out my grandmother's house after she moved to a smaller place and found these:
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Phenotype posted:You certainly were. I started with O'Brian, and he's just head and shoulders above any other similar fiction I've tried. Hornblower is probably closest for verisimilitude, but he's such a closed-off, dull person that his books are nowhere near as much fun, and they don't go as deeply into life ashore, either. I've also tried the Alan Lewrie books, which seem like the other extreme -- he's an interesting character who does a lot of fun things, but his books are kinda trashy and nowhere near as immersive. p much yeah haven't tried lewrie's books, but i read some bolithos and had to quit because they just weren't the real deal bernard cornwell's other series have the same characters and plots too, regardless if they're set in viking era or whatever i still like them, but you can't really read them all one after another
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:It’s not at all historical but Susanna Clarke’s Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell scratches some of the same itch as the Aubrey-Maturin series for me. It’s fantasy-ish, but very well written and totally engaged with its period and setting in a similar way as POB. it's excellent
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