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Going to KMFDM in portland tonight. Hope they aren't too disappointing.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2011 03:52 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 13:39 |
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teethgrinder posted:I'm still on the fence about seeing them in Toronto. I finally saw them in Ottawa like ... over five years ago, and it was terrible. Just got back and they loving ruled. Got three encores, mosh pit kicked rear end, the show was good. Their lineup was kind of meh because They had songs from their newer album, which I haven't actually heard yet, but it was a great show. Also the singer for 16Volt jumped into the mosh pit mid-show and knocked people out, then let the audience sing into his mic. Definitely better than last time KMFDM was in Portland.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2011 10:32 |
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Pope Guilty posted:I like the more electronic direction KMFDM has been going in, but then my faovirte KMFDM album is Symbols, soooooo Yeah I actually didn't bother listening to WTF?! before the concert because KMFDM has been pretty lackluster but WTF?! is pretty solid. Reminds me of Symbols and Adios, which are two of my fav albums by them.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2011 03:36 |
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The Cleaner posted:Just a fleeting thought, I must admit I'm a bit worried they're getting too blatantly political to the point the lyrics are becoming overtly predictable. Obviously they've always been socially conscious, which is what they are all about of course, but when you focus on that one angle over and over.. well you'll loose the abstract and artistic aspects that made their 80's/early 90's stuff so different. This is their first overtly political album since WWIII and Lucia's lyrical writing is nothing like Sascha's at all.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2011 00:41 |
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Shut up guys Laibach is brilliant
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2011 12:46 |
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Laibach is a completely different beast and on a whole another level, keep them out of this They were the vanguard for that poo poo and unfortunately no one else 'got' it but decided to mimic it anyway.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2011 15:04 |
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Sounds like Download.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2011 03:55 |
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hatelull posted:I haven't listened to the samples, as I would rather wait for the real thing (or the inevitable leak). Do you mean old Download, or his later era oonzt-oonzt-oonzt Helicopter Download that pretty much blends into platEAU. Older download. III and earlier Download. I haven't even heard any download after III so nice to know it would be a waste of time.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2011 14:32 |
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hatelull posted:Effector is ok, if not tame. I quite enjoyed Fixer, but it's far less abrasive as the earlier stuff. I'm not sure how to describe it actually, but he made a transition from the noisy possibly experimental sound of the early Download to druggy hyper-active electronica of the later stuff. He did a vault release called Inception - The Subconcious James 1994-1995 that was a nice mix of the older stuff reworked, so that might be worth tracking down if you're really interested. I dunno. III was a decent album but it was starting to stray into territory I didn't like as much and I'm not surprised Download drifted off the way it did. I'll probably check it out eventually but until then I'll be happy looping SuniC and Base Metal for hours on end.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2011 13:19 |
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Furret Basket posted:All you feminist cunts you know that you want it, give head if you've got it. Ahaha yes. YES. Twiin posted:Sure! The difference is that acts like Laibach or Boyd Rice were either explicitly a character act, or were totally marginalized. Combichrist wears a confederate war flag and puts out a video where he forces women to strip at gunpoint, and he goes on tour with Rammstein. I'd argue that acts like Laibach and Boyd Rice are better because they aren't just shock-jocks but are actually explicitly transgressive and their image, characters, and lyrics actually have a social meaning as opposed to the juvenile rantings of bands like Combichrist where they just want to appeal to teen angst, which just happens to be hopelessly reactionary. Zaiquiri fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 5, 2011 |
# ¿ Oct 5, 2011 23:03 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Not a whole lot of industrial and definitely not Combichrist. The stuff that still interests me pretty much tends toward the avant-garde and neo-folk side of things. So stuff like TG, Coil, and Current 93. Death In June!!!!
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2011 12:00 |
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Slappy Moose posted:This is kind of more TV related, but gently caress that. B Mashina has always been one of my favorite Laibach songs. Glad it's finally been used in a movie trailer, it's kind of perfect for that.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2011 13:30 |
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Furret Basket posted:It's short for Every Awful Band Ever In The Past Five Years. I was at a bar once and some guys had british accents and I asked what they were in the area for and they told me they were roadies for a band. I asked what band and they said "Bring Me The Horizon" and I laughed in their faces. I was pretty drunk.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2011 00:21 |
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Twiin posted:well that's it, i quit industrial Oh my god they literally match up the beat to him brutalizing a woman hatelull posted:For the lot of you that have yet to seek out or care to be bothered with the handOver leak, Revolver magazine is premiering "Village" off of the new album.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2011 23:18 |
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hatelull posted:This won't apply to most of you, but if you're on the West Coast I highly recommend trying to make one of these dates: I'm totally going to call into work so I can go to this since it's like, 15 blocks from where I live. Unfortunately this venue is like, all 16-year-old scene kids and 40-year-old goths wishing it was the 90's again. I'll probably just get wicked drunk in the alcohol section then punch teens in the face. It'll rule.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2011 19:33 |
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hatelull posted:Which date are you going to be punishing underage cretins? hatelull posted:Not to turn this into a ugly drag out fight, but even by the early to mid 90's wasn't the "Goth Scene" mostly played out? I mean, by that point the Sisters were just a legend and some LP's, the Cure were writing rubbish like "Friday, I'm in Love", the Pups were quickly on their way to indefinite hiatus, and Reznor turned a lot of it into arena rock while Cleopatra quietly put Tribute albums out ad nauseum. Yeah it was mostly played out, I'm referring to a specific age group that got into the 'alternative' scene in the 90's. They all seem to show up at this venue whenever there's a band remotely industrial/metal/gothy.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2011 13:46 |
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Okay I must not be the only one who hasn't looked forward to a new Megaherz album for a while and hasn't enjoyed an Eisbrecher album since the release of their first one? Megaherz was alright, but they drifted into that generic German metal scene, and Eisbrecher was amazing on their first album, but then they allowed their live band members to help write songs and had the same result.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2011 19:44 |
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Finally some Laibach news (again)
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2012 04:00 |
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RizieN posted:Yea I don't dress the part either, but if KMFDM ever came back to town I'd totally get all S&Med out with my wife and go have a hardcore german freak night with her. All the KMFDM concerts I've been to have actually had a pretty diverse audience, style-wise. No other industrial band I've seen seemed to have such a colorful group come to see them.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2012 13:21 |
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Furret Basket posted:HOLY poo poo BOUGHT Color me jealous
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2012 02:52 |
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What's a good starting point for Xorcist? I've been meaning to get into them for a while.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2012 12:25 |
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Sex sells. Really as simple as that.
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# ¿ May 23, 2012 15:13 |
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Rainer talked to I Die: You Die about this business: http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/ Love the quotes in the interview they highlighted hahah. That's perfect.
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# ¿ May 24, 2012 20:46 |
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:And a second DWIFH album is apparently in very good shape, at least judging by the guy's Twitter updates. Very excited to hear what he has in store, and how his sound has evolved!
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# ¿ May 31, 2012 01:56 |
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Pope Guilty posted:There's no merit in shock value for shock alone; shock value's got to have a point or else it's just juvenile poo poo. Old-school industrial was often shocking, but there was a message and a point behind it, such as Skinny Puppy trying to draw attention to animal rights issues. Wallowing in poo poo for the sake of wallowing in poo poo is junior high school. Laibach will always have been the band that did it best.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2012 04:09 |
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I've never really listened to Covenant that much but they're playing on my birthday in my city so maybe I'll check them out before getting Birthday Hammered.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2012 15:35 |
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Yeah but the Communist and Socialist parties are the most popular parties and organizations in the world, and for the most part the hammer and sickle represent a form of empowerment and liberation for people who are downtrodden or oppressed. While Europeans may have thought fascism was a good thing, they knew what fascism was, and accepted it despite that. Fascism (according to Mussolini's "What Is Fascism?") specifically rejected workers' power, democracy, and was very nationalistic as well as expansionist. This isn't just how the 'theory' of fascism played out when actually put into practice, this is specifically what it was meant to be from the beginning. I have no ideological qualms with not being offended by a hammer and sickle, simply because it stands for a general liberation for the masses (whether attainable or not); while images like the Confederate flag and the Swastika, while possibly holding special meaning for the (white) people who wave it, still represent racism, slavery, and genocide.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2012 12:15 |
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Aufzug Taube! posted:Either this is an elaborate troll or Thomas Rainer has literally declared war on industrial music. Ahahah what a shween. "Austrian Imperial Industrial" hahaha it's like high school goth drama with a fascistic twist
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2012 02:41 |
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Has anyone seen the Thrill Kill Kult on their tour or does no one care about them anymore? I missed them when there were here and am wondering if I missed out on anything.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2012 15:45 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 13:39 |
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Halloween Jack posted:As much as I'd like to blame misogyny in industrial music on those loving jocks invading it, I think a more likely theory is that the industrial scene has always carried an uneasy balance between coopting violent, militaristic imagery as a protest and embracing it for the power fantasy it provides. The fascism is coming from inside the scene!
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2012 16:40 |