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Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
*cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi3iAqiGg4g *cough*

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Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

After listening to the free four-track EP a couple of times now, I have to say there's a weird sense of... emptiness in all of these songs. They're all nicely done, and they've really nailed the NIN sound perfectly, but I can't help but feel the soul Trent pours into his works is missing. It's like these guys have decided to see if they can make songs like Reznor and succeeded, but haven't even tried to take it anywhere further than that. I really can't see myself listening to any more of this, it just plain makes me uncomfortable.

In comparison to Cell, Dead When I Found Her sounds an awful lot like 80s industrial, but something in the music just makes it sound like there's some heart put into it. DWIFH just sounds more honest, for the lack of a better word. It also helps that it's not simply a direct copy of the stuff he obviously draws most of his inspiration from, but it's like it's a direct, logical evolution of that era. I also think the dude has a pretty distinct sound of his own in there, too. Some parts even sound like they could be from a Metroid game or something, which is awesome.

How bad in comparison to say, Halo In Reverse?

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Halo in Reverse is a DM reference, the dude's said it himself.

I found HIR as a junior in high school when I first started getting into making music and thought anything NIN related was the beginning and end of industrial. Actual song writing aside, I was (and still am) surprised by how good the production sounded and hoped one day my music would be able to get to that level.

All his music is from either '00 or '01 for back when MP3.com was still up, you can stream the whole album here http://www.haloinreverse.net/HTML/music/musicpopup.htm. Not only is there not a single original element to his music, he gets incredibly butthurt and defensive when anyone criticizes it always citing the NIN/Skinny Puppy comparison and then comparing that to himself to why everyone else should shut up. If you actually read any interviews with him it paints the saddest picture ever giving context to what all his songs are about. Half the songs are about a girl, the other half are about hating a girl, turns out his girlfriend he was madly in love with at some point during recording he walking on her giving a blowjob to another guy in their apartment or something. After you know the history it makes listening to the album kinda hilarious actually since it ends on You after he spent half the album bitching about her. I don't know how good/bad it is that You is his most "original sounding" song.

I've talked to the dude on/off for years because he drives me nuts in that he obviously knows what he's doing and I think if he just gave some serious thought and effort he could make something unique if he wanted. In the time since he's put out his one CD, dug his heels in and said "I'M AWESOME" I graduated high school, made 3 demos, millions of downloads, dropped out of college, had a club hit, working on a Metropolis release, working with my heroes and my first pick for a producer. I've told him all this in hopes of sharing what I've learned and hoping he challenges himself one day to do something because even if I didn't know it was derivative at the time, it was something I thought was cool enough to keep going with making music.

I like HIR better than sober NIN, even if it is just a blatant copy. I even bought a couple copies of his CD, one I gave to a friend as a gift with a custom "Compare to NIN and SAVE" sticker I make. My roomate even runs one of the big goth/industrial music blogs he did an interview with last year. Just challenge youself and do something (anything) you jerk.

He did an awesome version of moonlight sonata the during MP3.com days I'm dying to hear again and every time we've corresponded and I've begged him to send it to me it's always "sure, I gotta remaster it and derpy deedly derp" and I never get it. :argh:

Edit - Actually I think "Go All The Way" is the best HIR song.

Pope Guilty posted:

Do you like Julien-K?

I liked that song on Shadow the Hedgehog.

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

drat, I had no idea how close I was with my Metroid comment :hellyeah: I freaking love the music in Metroid, this is just amazing. Thanks!

Any artist worth listening to should play with Metroid's music at one point or another :v: http://tindeck.com/listen/1ai30

edit - lol, I forgot I made that out of Pitchshifter and Happiness in Slavery samples.

Quirk fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 7, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Godmachine posted:

drat. This is pretty good.

Thanks, the first two links are me. The second song I'm thinking of seeing if Lucia or maybe Chibi'd be down to sing the bridge for. I'd love to make something where they'd duet though :swoon:

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Birthday Massacre totally belongs in this thread and they loving rule. Pins and Needles was fantastic.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
It fits Underhalls well I like the trudging it gives off.

I'm trying to have a demo done like yesterday and have had to remake all my recent stuff from scratch, does this sound pretty good quality production wise for a demo?

http://tindeck.com/listen/tjgp
http://tindeck.com/listen/cjeo

Quirk fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jun 6, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

You had to redo them again? Didn't you already have to do it twice before this or something :psyduck:

But yeah, these sound fantastic to me, studio quality stuff.

oh it's been maybe four or five... or more but who's counting :suicide: I got it this time. It's needed this long to bake anyways.

new http://tindeck.com/listen/tqpi
a year or so ago http://tindeck.com/listen/zcmn

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

spider_ross.avi posted:

Is it wrong for me to like the older mix better? Personally I think some of the rough analog texture that is really prevalent in the old mix gets lost in reverb and sampled acoustic drums in the new one.

that's fine, just the new one is the slick sound I've been aiming for the whole time. Ill still add stuff like guitar pickup noises and the "help me" sample during the bridge.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
These versions of these songs are for Doom specifically, but its by my fake band I'm gonna make a thread about soon:

http://youtu.be/xJ46giSZV0I

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Godmachine posted:

I've been a fan of all of Quirk's stuff.

Except his trolling for boobs on forums.

Canni is this you here? I couldn't remember if you were a goon or not.

Twiin posted:

I've been a fan of all of Quirk's stuff except for the part where he doesn't tell anyone how he made those sounds sound so good. All the other parts are great.

Its all FLstudio. I played Mario Paint alot. It's just taken an eternity to figure out how to not make it sound like it. Also my computers are never really powerful so I have to work within a bunch of limitations.

Edit - also Dean Garcia helped with the songwriting so they might have sucked without him

Quirk fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jun 24, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Yep. Been helping here and there for the last couple years. I've met a lot of people in the scene that were really influential in shaping my sound growing up, some said they might be down to help finish this album, I feel very privileged :)

Speaking of, I'm working on the youtube art. It's coming along nicley, but they still scream "generic industrial band" so I got a few ideas to tinker with. All the empty space is reserved for a background photo of me cosplaying some anime catboy thing with a guitar. Spent all drat night on these, might as well show them before I throw them out:





Quirk fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jun 25, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

13Pandora13 posted:

The first one was overwhelmingly "Resident Evil" for me. That font just has too strong of connotations for people (be it Matrix or RE or whatever). I like the last one.

yea I know but I just had so much fun with that one.

P.M.F. posted:

"The Matrix"

"Ghost in a Shell meets Final Fantasy"

"KMFDM Symbols"
Keep this one.

Also, don't do the anime cat boy thing. If you must have some anime reference get something from the 80's, or something in the 90's that still took itself seriously.

Those are the old symbols I just had them on hand. The symbols are now currently the 8 Bit ones. My fake band needs that extra layer of weird so I spent the last year making a fanime charecter. I won't do anything unless I know for sure I can without it looking stupid, I made a hilariously bad music video a few years ago that will forever remind me how not to do something.

Quirk fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jun 25, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
I've done so many remakes I have no idea whats the original you're referring to but nothings finalized I can just tweak something. Thanks for the feedback, I'm going to be treading some dangerous ground but I like it so:



EDIT - ARGH VIOLENT WAS MISPELLED THIS WHOLE TIME :argh:

Just now noticed, no it wasn't intentional. God drat that's embarrassing. Ooh and I got some more ideas.

Edit 2, now it's getting there. It's doing that thing where it makes me feel uneasy looking at it like it's hipster bullshit, so I know I'm doing this right. I don't suppose anyone knows where to find some good emo textures?

Quirk fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 28, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
I need to know one last thing from you guys: how viscerally angry or disgusted does this image style make you? This is important. The emo is not me.



Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Twiin posted:

It has kind of crossed some weird too-ridiculous uncanny valley so that it isn't aesthetically offensive anymore. Now it's like a good GBS 'photoshop fake jpop album covers' post.

boo_radley posted:

Still can't believe you're sticking with the RE font. You might as well name your band NarutoXxXSephiroth for the social cues that image gives. (unless that's the post ironic point)

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Pope Guilty posted:

Yeah, agreed. I can't make a connection between this and what you've posted.

Doctor Zero posted:

Should be "Hyper-Violent Porno Cartoon." Unless you really do mean that it's hyper and violent like some kind of ADD psychopath.

I started making this album in 2006 and started over 3 times because my sound sucked my songs sucked everything sucked. Years I've studied what NIN and Manson and Chemlab and everybody did to make something unique and successful, studied A&R after I went through the their thing in 05, marketing, every aspect of what other people would be in charge of if this was a label record. I'm creating a caricature of myself, which I had to bite the bullet that I'm an internet elemental. I'm every stupid emo posting facebook ramblings, bitching about exes, self mutilating, spergin wonderfuck that gravitated to sonic the hedgehog. I posted the instrumentals in the games forum along with the lyrics, and the feedback I got was pretty much expected. I want those that hate it to hate each and every aspect of it, because they don't get that I realize how stupid it is, but I just don't care. Since starting writing this thing, I've gone through 5 computers on this version of the album alone, had to put up with an rear end in a top hat engineer for years to learn, became friends with my favorite bands, moved out of AK for the first time ever, I got people waiting to push me into Hot Topic, and Birthday Massacre is down to let me tour with them god drat I have to make sure every little aspect of this is done right if I'm going to make sure it's successful. This will be it, not the start of a career or anything just one album. If I can successfully commercially sell myself then people will look at that as gold portfolio material. Then maybe I can get a normal 9 to 5 job maybe at a marketing company maybe the'll call me back from one of these interviews and maybe I can some semblance of stability :suicide:

As I bow out from the thread now, I'm pimping my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/mdpofficial

Quirk fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 30, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Sloppy posted:

This is awesome also. Wait, are you the guy who recommended Birthday Massacre in the 'Best of 2010' thread? Because if so I love you even more.

Yeah, that was me. I owe Birthday Massacre alot for helping guide my sound latley.

handbandit posted:

I've often dreamed of riding the lovely Portland indie wave to superstardom. Then, I'll name my first studio album Selling Out, and promptly follow through on what it implies.

Who can say they've trolled an entire industry and sub-culture? That's some Andy Kaufman level poo poo. If you pull that off you're my new hero.

Yeah, I'm not trolling though I am totally what I described I just decided that I'm going to roll with it and embrace it's stupidity. Sorry for the crazy tangents, I'm closing in on finishing something I've spent a huge chunk of my life on and I'm going a bit nuts because of it. NOW I'm bowing out of the thread but I recorded a blog that explains some stuff: http://youtu.be/MHr4eeoVCZY

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
The image is and my lyrics are dumb as hell. But they're both perfectly me so I'm not changing them.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
I get told that alot, I will soon. I don't really have much to add to the thread, but if you're interested in my my whole view of industrial I'm enjoying this blogging thing. I would type these but that would go on for pages, so pretend it's an industrial radio thinger as I go into depth about my world of industrial, why I'm going off the deep end, Nothing Records, and hanging with Birthday Massacre. If you guys like this, I'll do another. :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhee#p/u/0/ZprWrxq18dI

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
The next thing I'm going to post is going to be it's own thread here, but I'm inviting everyone who hasn't yet to listen to these 3 blogs I recorded before I go this time. They're long but they give everything I've been doing context and insight into what an obsessive freak I am with music and bands. Starting from why this has taken me five years, to Nothing NIN and Manson, Birthday Massacre and me losing my god drat mind as I buckle down to finish something here over the next week. If you have friends also into industrial and interested in the politics of it as well, please pass these around. The final blog I actually thought to put music behind so you don't hear only my boring voice yammering on.

blog3 http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhum#p/u/2/MHr4eeoVCZY
blog4 http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhum#p/u/1/ZprWrxq18dI
blog5 http://www.youtube.com/user/mdpofficial?feature=mhum#p/u/0/DVDM7w83zV4

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
:nws: http://www.livestream.com/mockerydefeatsposterity

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Anyone can have a facebook I want a tv station. I made this experiment with my music and added it into the rotation: http://youtu.be/B2eppxJ7NeE for now this is just for fun

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
At the risk of being labeled a lovely gimmick, is this making enough sense that someone kinda gets where I'm going with this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6_vMyvUNA

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Since there's a couple of you waiting for me to post something with lyrics, I'm REALLY really trying to get something done soon after spending half the year learning how to sing. Just stuff keeps getting in the way but I swear to god I'm trying hard for no other reason than some of you guys think there's really something cool to it.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Music is the life blood, thanks I needed a smile today. I was really tempted to just say "fuckit" and go all Brokencyde with the vocals, but I just couldn't bring myself to so I'm cursed with trying to do something natural and actually good but it's so hard when you're tiny and nasally.

Here's the songs with some test vocals, I think I'm over the hump but there's still a lot of suck I have to strip out of my techniques: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfPGa7CCCU

When I'm on my feet and not talking to social workers and people that want to put me in the nice padded rooms I'll come back to it :buddy:

edit: bonus context: http://youtu.be/v4ZLlPtcXAI

Quirk fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Sep 18, 2011

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

handbandit posted:

Scary thought, but what if these drat kids of today have such horrible taste, yet enough influence that in 20 years they're considered "pioneers" of the next evolution of industrial music?

Oh gently caress. Someone kill me now.

This is like worrying that bands like Black Veil Brides will set the stage for metal for the next generation. Blood On The Dancefloor sucks so much, no retard listening to them is going to make anything listen worthy beyond the inital novelty of trying to make "the next thing". The industrial that pioneered the halfway decent bands of today was born of a climate of social unrest and nihlistic attitude of the time. The poo poo "the kids" are listening to is disposable bubblegum that will be flushed once the next legit evolution of the genre comes about, there's enough paralells between now and back in the day that the music makers of today activley trying to do something different are so loving pissed that gay poo poo like Dead Inside Crystalis is what the current kind of thing is. Get enough pissed off artists together and they'll wipe this kiddy poo poo out when it hits the boiling point, give it time. Then again, I may just be deluded after 21 days straight of fighting seattle police for the right to be a god drat human being.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

boo_radley posted:

Motherfuckin' Quirk. How have you been? Sounds pretty bad with the "battling police" stuff.

Thinking clearly now I'm off the meds I was on the last 4 weeks designed to keep me pacified not finding work since I've set foot in this loving rear end in a top hat city, trying my hardest to stay non-violent at this joke of an occupation with police loving us for sleeping and now for painting protest signs (no joke) I keep trying to do impromptu and planned shows but every time it devolves into me screaming NON's "Total War" while beating the poo poo out of a bucket because the media team thinks my music is too violence inciting to help me perform anything. Police took and lost my laptop after taking tents during week 1 so my music making is out the window until god knows when and I've spent alot of time waiting for the best times to piss on the occupation's Bank of America doors which is losing it's charm so I'm getting ready to pig out tonight and bazooka barf all over them.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
I did this only to make a few bucks from a horrible Alaskan goth zine, the owner filmed it and was so proud of his work.

http://youtu.be/U4bfSvepiVY

I was just as embarassed making it as you feel watching it but I really wanted a dub sack.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Orgy fits, Candyass will always own.

So after the police took and lost my laptop I finally got another one, started getting back into the swing of things making music after months of inactivity. I got exactly one rough test vocal of a chorus done before a SWAT team pulled the windows off the front of the house and made everyone vacate with guns drawn and all: http://tindeck.com/listen/tbwg I successfully hid from them last time at a warehouse, I just didn't count on being asleep this time

Took another two weeks to track down another power cord for the laptop since everything in the house was forfeit. Only reason I still have this is because it went right under my coat when I heard the angry fist of god drilling the wall off, but I have a sound room at the library booked this week so I can at least try and get a song actually done.

Bring it on world, even if it takes a million years you ain't stopping me from leaving my mark on it :black101:

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

RizieN posted:

Skold

Skold 101:

Skold is a badass that gets alot of flack for being straight to the point angst and joining bands that are on their way out. After Twiggy left Manson, Skold joined from Resident Evil soundtrack until after Eat Me Drink Me, then Twiggy and Manson became bffs again and "booted out the swede". If you play Doom with his songs playing, it's proven your game will be 200% more mindlessley bloody:

Burn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6PkNy3qUlA
Chaos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0h-lcd-VI
Punk rear end Motherfucker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNrMUI1I3I

He was also in a band Shotgun Messiah that was hair metal until he got creative control and the band became (good) butt-metal with industrial elements

I'ma Gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwuhjP27R0M

His self titled LP is from 1996 and fantastic. I havent heard his most recent one all the way through, but I heard some of it when it was being worked on and it was pretty rad as well.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
I loving love The Kovenant. I think their best album is Animatronic, followed by SETI. Times Before the Light isn't bad either, but I have to be in a really agressive mood to listen to industrialized remixes of a black metal album.

(Animatronic) New World Order - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mohtVnxVGDk
(SETI) Planet of the Apes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEK-bCxlpY4
(Times Before the Lights) The Chasm - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZNwZwEF6Aw

Animatronic and SETI are two of my favorite industrial rock albums ever.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

Wow, never knew Shotgun Messiah was this good. Only thing I knew of them before were the ridiculous Skold pictures that were going around when he joined KMFDM.

Shotgun Messiah has been completely forgotten by industrial. Their first album Bop City I found on cassette a few years ago and sounds exactly like Skold's thong photo looks. Then Skold and Cody took over and recorded some great ballads and industrial influenced metal:

Living Without You, the best ballad ever - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AghkI43MVd4
Violent New Breed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYRuVC68SuY

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
Is there anyone in Portland with a means to record vocals and possibly a couch for a few days? I've been on the street since September, if I can't work on music I'm just thinking gently caress it and going back to Alaska.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
couch/street/shelter/street/tent city/steet sick a lot from going on-off medication, and now currently at a house in Aberdeen WA for one more day with everything riding my last nerve. Before I die I just want to make. One. loving. CD.

Hell, it can be an EP or even a single at this point, I don't care. I just want to do vocals over this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIu_8XNw-HM

That's all I ask God. Let me leave just this one mark on the world before I strap play-doh and M80s to the propane section of the nearest Kmart.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
That rules so hard.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

molotoveverything posted:

Anyways why does this scene (a very small one as well) inescapably seems to be tied to all sorts of drama? It's such a small scene, yet every time I check up on things I'm bound to find some sort of controversy in the scene itself.

Becuase it's a dead genre of children who like everything related to the music more than music itself. Drama is staple now just like privileged bro fucks with drum machines angry they have nothing to be angry about.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

TOOT BOOT posted:

Can you blame them, honestly? Some of these people were in grade school when industrial was still relevant musically.

I was broken in by Mortal Kombat soundtracks in elementary school, but I can still see how much of this crap is old hat and masturbatory.

Edit - gently caress I'm old, MK soundtrack :argh:

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
New Birthday Massacre just announced minutes ago. :neckbeard:

quote:

With every new album from The Birthday Massacre, we see a band that has created not only its own distinct niche in the musical landscape, but also seems to have created its own world. This time, we play Hide and Seek in that world. The new album from The Birthday Massacre opens with rain, and ends with the sounds of waves; in between we are given songs of lost girls, lost love, lost time. The delicate interplay between Chibi’s vocals and the ambiance created by Rainbow, M. Falcore, Rhim, Owen & Nate is on full display. Dark new wave hooks and haunting synths turn sinister as Rainbow and Falcore’s guitars lead Hide and Seek into ever darker, ever more beautiful corners of The Birthday Massacre’s world.

Hide and Seek is also available as a Limited Edition 180-gram vinyl!

01. Leaving Tonight
02. Down
03. Play With Fire
04. Need
05. Calling
06. Alibis
07. One Promise
08. In This Moment
09. Cover My Eyes
10. The Long Way Home

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
All this edgy bullshit regardless if it's sinscere, in charecter or what the gently caress ever, it's just all old-hat recycled boring as motherfuck. None of this has any real spirit behind it, there's no personality, these people took cliff notes just to get chicks and piss off dad. I concede I'm not really an "industrial" fan because I'm a rock guy and also liked the actual new-ground breaking industrial stuff from when people listened to records.

Doctor Claw posted:

Hey bud, I remember you had some really good industrial music you made online. Can you link me again?

Sure, have a promo thing and some tunes:
http://youtu.be/uNv5RQRKOaU
http://youtu.be/xJ46giSZV0I

You think I should start a kickstart for this or would that be too shameful?

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Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
A version of a track I did with Dean Garcia made it on an album with Chibi from Birthday Massacre! :dance: I havent been online much last year so I didn't know he had finished it.

http://deangarcia.bandcamp.com/album/das-haus-volume-one

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