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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Finished book one of the Crippled God last night. Probably already covered but I've been avoiding spoilers:

- So, is Quick Ben somehow related directly to Mother Dark? Probably explained later but seriously a pretty big wtf.
- What is the deal with Ruthan Gudd? He's mentioned a few times in DoD but I don't remember him from bonehunters or reapers gale, or the ICE books. Came over from Fist clearly, but I don't recall his introduction at all.
- Anyone notice that the Assail Calm is the one Karsa freed in book 4? Awesome.

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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Finished tCG this weekend. It was a good climax and ending for the series, I thought. a little too many face crumplings in response to an act of compassion or whatever, but the action didn't disappoint.

Edit: I could, but mine smells of smoke :v:

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Other open plot thread [Moi] silverfox and the imass on Assail?

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Not to give anything away, you are on the right track.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Recent Q&A with ICE, on his upcoming novels and other stuff: http://elitistbookreviews.blogspot.com/2011/03/interview-with-ian-c-esslemont.html

Recent Q&A with SE, on future plans and on the series: http://elitistbookreviews.blogspot.com/2011/03/interview-with-ian-c-esslemont.html

Good stuff!

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Another good interview with Erikson: http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com/2011/04/steven-erikson-interview.html

Calling it, Lostara Yil is his wife.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

Spermy Smurf posted:

I finally read Eriksons books... RotCG and Stonewielder.

They werent nearly as bad as NoK, but still pretty terrible dialogue.

Now I want more. Of anything in the Malazan universe. I dont care who writes it or what it is about, I just want more...

God damnit.

Have you read the horror novellas?

BTW we have cover art for the two special editions of deadhouse gates coming out soon. The coltaine one is pretty sweet. I don't know who's supposed to be in the other. Lostara? Shaik?

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Cool map!

Here's cover art for the next Esslemont novel. Hopefully we get an updated blurb. The last one was... pretty bad.



I'm looking forward to the PSPublishing cover art too. Hopefully they'll keep the same artist and nautical theme!

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
So they did rewrite the blurb. Now this is more like it!

Orb, Sceptre, Throne posted:

Drujhistan, city of dreams, city of blue flames, is peaceful at last; its citizens free to return to politicking, bickering, trading and, above all, enjoying the good things in life. Yet there are those who will not allow the past to remain buried. A scholar digging in the plains stumbles across an ancient sealed vault. The merchant Humble Measure schemes to drive out the remaining Malazan invaders. And the surviving agents of a long-lost power are stirring, for they sense change and so, opportunity. While, as ever at the centre of everything, a thief in a red waistcoat and of rotund proportions walks the streets, juggling in one hand custard pastries, and in the other the fate of the city itself.
Far to the south, fragments of the titanic Moon's Spawn have crashed into the Rivan Sea creating a series of isles . . . and a fortune hunter's dream. A Malazan veteran calling himself 'Red' ventures out to try his luck—and perhaps say goodbye to old friends. But there he finds far more than he'd bargained for as the rush to claim the Spawn's treasures descends into a mad scramble of chaos and bloodshed. For powers from across the world have gathered here, searching for the legendary Throne of Night. The impact of these events are far reaching, it seems. On an unremarkable island off the coast of Genabackis, a people who had turned their backs upon all such strivings now lift their masked faces towards the mainland and recall the ancient prophesy of a return.
And what about the ex-Claw of the Malazan Empire who now walks the uttermost edge of creation? His mission—the success or failure of which the Queen of Dreams saw long ago—is destined to shape far more than anyone could have ever imagined.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Dee-vairss

Btw when I posted the new blurb for the upcoming ice novel, it's because the limited edition is on preorder at pspublishing. RotCG was 3 months early there and this one might be early there too, if you need a malazan fix.

Edit: £95

Fuzzy Mammal fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Sep 28, 2011

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Cover art for volume 1 of the ICE's new book. Quorls, bombing my Dharujistan?

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
I tried reading the Mistborn novels last week and had to give up. The action was so stilted and the characters were so shallow. I think erikson has kinda ruined the genre for me now.

Next Ice novel comes out in 4 weeks!!!

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
More art from the special edition Deadhouse Gates. Olar Ethil from the silanda is definitely my favourite.





Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

WeWereSchizo posted:

I'm pretty sure she's the only undead dragon flying around. Going through Tellann's a good clue, too (which is how Stormy, Gesler, and Truth got all shiny). But I could be wrong.
Actually, I think it's Tellas? The Tiste Liosan warren, since they Liosan go chasing them in HoC. You find out later that it's her too more directly but damned if I can remember where.


Also consensus last time was Lostara Yil?

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Mmmmmmm, new maps.....


Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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The Ninth Layer posted:

Just finished Reaper's Gale. Trull!!! That was the worst death of the series for me so far; when Coltaine and Whiskeyjack died I was crushed, but Trull dying came out of nowhere and really hit me hard. He was one of the most likable characters of the series yet, and his way of dying was heartbreaking. Leaving his newly found love to reconcile with Rhulad, only to get stabbed in the back after finding his brother dead... Such a brutal, meaningless death for a great character. I really hope the Errant gets his just desserts, although I'd be surprised if this series delivered that sort of karma.

On to the Return of the Crimson Guards next, got my copy of Toll the Hounds waiting to follow it up.

Yeah, that was a real sucker punch. I love that book. And you have the correct ordering IMO.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Has anyone got any impressions for orb scepter throne? Looks like it's available outside the United States now.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
New interview with SE on Tor.com. Some very interesting stuff:

Erikson posted:

This is probably a good opportunity to advise potential readers of the Kharkanas trilogy: there will be a shift in style going on, and accordingly if you expect a seamless continuity of style between the Malazan Book of the Fallen and the Kharkanas series, you may be in for a surprise.
Less philosophizing that people love to harp on, perhaps?

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/03/st...+and+Stories%29

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Marketing blurb for the forge of darkness:

It’s a conflicted time in Kurald Galain, the warren of Darkness, where Mother Dark reigns. But this ancient land was once home to many a power… and even death is not quite eternal. The commoners’ great hero, Vatha Urusander, longs for ascendency and Mother Dark’s hand in marriage, but she has taken another Consort, Lord Draconus, from the faraway Dracon Hold. The idea of this union sends fissures throughout the realm, and as the rumors of civil war burn through the masses, an ancient power emerges from the long dead seas. Caught in the middle of it all are the Sons of Darkness, Anomander, Adarist, and Silchas Ruin of the Purake Hold.

Sounds political :iamafag:

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Abalieno posted:

I chuckled because you missed to quote a part that is quite fitting the latest discussions here:

Steven Erikson brings to life this ancient and important tale set in the world he introduced in the Malazan Book of the Fallen in a way that should appeal to fans of George R. R. Martin.

Yeah that part pissed me off. Books are long? Large list of characters? Labeled as Fantasy? Fiction? Well of course they'll appeal to the same fans!

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Eh in my experience trying to convince someone to try the malazan series by comparing it with Martin is rarely successful.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Oh god no. Read Night of Knives before Bonehunters. You can tell they phoned each other and synched up while they were writing those two. NoK is pretty weak and may put you off the whole series if you start with it. And you won't understand the significance of what's going on either.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Fuzzy Mammal fucked around with this message at 18:52 on May 29, 2012

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
I think I hit on what is annoying about Kyle, is that in ICE's writing there are always these rube characters with their forced-stupid first person commentary. See Kiska in NoK, Suth (who gets better admittedly) and more Kiska in Stoneweilder, and Butcher & the girl from the bandit camp whose name I can't remember in OST.

I must say, I really did enjoy OST a lot. I can deal with some of the characters changing a bit, and I really liked how certain character's arcs finished. There's also good hooks for the upcoming Andii novels as well.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Yes they're both chilling in Darujistan in OST. Duiker has a killer one liner in that book too, and fisher gets a big plot hook at the end as well.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Well Erikson's explanation/apologia/invitation regarding the new trilogy is now up at tor:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/07/an...+and+Stories%29

I wonder if he felt compelled to write it out of fear of pissing off his current fanbase or what. I'm intrigued by the idea that it could be an introduction to the malazan world that's more palatable for people who have only been exposed to more traditionalist fantasy.

Also prelude and chapter one:

http://www.tor.com/stories/2012/07/forge-of-darkness-prelude-and-chapter-one-excerpt

Fuzzy Mammal fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 26, 2012

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
It will also be over a year before the trilogy is finished and you wouldn't want to wait that long before diving in to the main series.

We should update that image with the newest books. I'm getting the necromancer novella number 5 next week!

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
I broke down and ordered from amazon UK. Hardcover though. I couldn't figure out how to get the kindle edition with a US credit card. This poo poo is so stupid.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Care to give more examples? The one you gave was IMO just a bit of spinning to leave things open for the next book as part of the denouement. It doesn't happen that often. On the contrary, I thought he did a good job finishing up people's arcs, Tayschrenn, Barathol & Scillara, and especially Traveller all had their arcs finish up pretty nicely.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah I've just gotten to book two of Forge of Darkness. There's nothing in there that could spoil the previous books so far, and I don't see how since it takes place so long before. Illuminate characters perhaps but not detract in any way, really.

It's a different pace but very much same old Erikson so far.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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In the western sky the bright emerald banner of the Visitor descends like a portent of annihilation. On the continent of Jacuruku, the Thaumaturgs have mounted yet another expedition to tame the neighboring wild jungle. Yet this is no normal wilderness. It is called Himatan, and it is said to be half of the spirit-realm and half of the earth. And it is said to be ruled by a powerful entity whom some name the Queen of Witches, and some a goddess: the ancient Ardata. Saeng grew up knowing only the rule of the magus Thaumaturgs -- but it was the voices out of that land's forgotten past that she listened to. And when her rulers mount an invasion of the neighboring jungle, those voices send her and her brother on a desperate mission.

To the south, the desert tribes are united by the arrival of a foreign warleader, a veteran commander in battered ashen mail whom his men call, the Grey Ghost. This warleader takes the tribes on a raid like none other, deep into the heart of Thaumaturg lands. While word comes to K'azz, and mercenary company the Crimson Guard, of a contract in Jacuruku. And their employer... none other than Ardata herself.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

PS Publishing Newsletter posted:

THIS WEEKS BIG NEWS

We’re going to be doing a limited two-volume edition of Steven Erikson’s THE FORGE OF DARKNESS and, as if that were not enough, current plans are to introduce a new strictly limited 26-copy lettered (i.e. A, B, C etc) BiblioBook imprint featuring an absolute state-of-the-art production traycase, additional artwork and a numbered certificate of authenticity (i.e. BiblioBook # 1, BiblioBook # 2 etc), all put together by a specialist company in California. These books will not be available as part of the Deluxe PS Lifetime Subscriber package but deluxe subscribers will be offered a copy for the price of the BiblioBook edition less the price of the deluxe edition. We’re still discussing the final set-up but current plans are for the BiblioBook to retail at around £300/$500.
I'm thinking about it. Somebody help me...






Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
The best malazan art:

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Yeah, cursed with eternal life, not eternal youth. Unlike most of the other true ascendants wandering around.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Ahh, time to break this badboy out again:

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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Yeah they've rereleased them a few times. The book club ones are fine quality, they're just a different physical size so if you end up with one without realizing it they will look bad on a shelf next to the rest of your full size ones.

Aside from that the question is if you want to stick to the old-school covers. They're pretty bad but have their charm. The UK editions went off them faster and the last few TOR ones picked up the new style by the end. The new GoTM for examples follows the new style pretty well.

There's a pretty good post your collection thread on the malazanempire.com forums. Collecting Erikson Titles is my private sperg. Let me know if you want to to go in to all the UK stuff as well.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Take US trade paperback, add cover, charge $1000 :laffo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1st-Leather...S:B:SHOP:US:101

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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It's not healthy to binge on this series anyway IMO. There's too much and they're too dense. I'm confident you'll enjoy the chain of dogs.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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apophenium posted:

Are there any companion discussions of the books I could read that don't have spoilers for later books in the series? I'm aching to get opinions on some events in the books as I'm reading them. I was going to read the Tor.com read-a-long, but they have a huge disclaimer about its spoilerness.
The tor blog is really good. Just read the post content and avoid the user comments below. And only read posts for chapters you've completed, obviously. Or, get one book ahead then read the blog for that book to see if it's what you're looking for.

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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

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Feel free to drop in with questions as you're going through though. Or for any :holyshit: moments.

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