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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Wilford Cutlery posted:

Was today's Amtrak derailment the first day of the new Cascades route?

According to WSDOT's website, it sure looks like it.

https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/Rail/PNWRC_PtDefiance/default.htm

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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Passenger rail in the US, and really mass transit in general in a lot of the US, is something of a circular problem. People avoid using it because it sucks and it sucks because nobody wants to pay to fix something nobody's using. Or something only filthy poors are using.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

I was less focused on train travel as being an affordable alternative to plane travel and more about regional commuter rail service not really being a thing in this country anywhere except the Northeast Corridor despite not being a totally terrible idea. Maybe.

But yes, Amtrak service is trapped in this lovely void of taking exponentially longer than a plane and also costing the same (if you want to be stuck in a coach seat for several hours/days) or (potentially a lot) more so it's a lot more of a luxury service for retired people, train freaks, and those afraid of flying than an actual public good but yet it's subsidized by the government but also supposed to try to turn a profit and just the entire situation is generally dumb as gently caress.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

It's a knuckle sandwich

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

vains posted:

shitshow everywhere because its not clear to anyone if its supposed to make money or not. is it a public good or is it a money making venture? who knows.

That describes most of America, honestly

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

An anorak of foamers.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Iron horse blinders

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Sash! posted:

So FEMA does this thing called a National Level Event exercise every couple years. A few years ago, 2016 I think, one component of the disaster was a freight train derailing at CP Virginia in downtown Washington, DC and tank cars of phenol rupturing. I was killed :(

goondolences

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

we're all foaming with anticipation

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Jonny Nox posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcfPKB9x8p0

this ain't yer burnin coal, this here's yer cokin coal for metalurgy.

filled with the sudden desire to fire up Workers and Resources Soviet Republic

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Orient Express operated by... BNSF?

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

“Murder on the BNSF Mixed Consist” doesn’t have the same ring.

new thread title candidate

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

designed for max dudes, you can't look out the window, only at your surrounding passengers, no room for any amenities like tray tables, also yeah, it looks like a military aircraft lol

it's designed like the interior of a subway car but (correct me if I'm wrong) it's going to be operating on a like 800+ mile route

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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

It's not though, those chairs are quite wide and have pretty wide spacing between centers, and are typically used in a paired seating arrangement perpendicular to the direction of travel. If you were really trying to cram people in, you would use seats that were actually like the seats they use in subway cars. It's just an utterly bizarre design choice.

that's kind of WHY it's so cursed, the LAYOUT is for max dudes (seats on the side, standing room in the middle) but the seats like you would normally see on a normal, more comfortable train, just without any amenities, so it just looks weird and wrong.

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