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azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

InterceptorV8 posted:

Join the retarded law club! :haw:

What still gets my goat.

8 hours from bottle to throttle for pilots.

:psyduck:

The rule is actually somewhat stricter than that, but it's still no better than DUI laws in most states.

FAR 91.17 posted:

(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—

(1) Within 8 hours after the consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

(2) While under the influence of alcohol;

(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety; or

(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of

At least with airlines, alcohol and flying isn't a massive problem, but the FAA likes to do a dog-and-pony show any time a pilot gets caught violating those rules in order to cover the fact that their duty-day rules date from the 1930's, and some of their medical requirements only recently got updated from the 1960's.

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azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

Tex Avery posted:

Anytime voice recorders in the cab are mentioned, crews throw a gigantic hissy fit about invasion of privacy and such.

The exact same thing happened when voice recorders were proposed for airplanes, and it was eventually settled by agreements that ban airlines from having any access to cockpit recordings except when investigating an accident. On top of that, federal law bans the actual audio recordings from ever being released, and there are pretty strict rules in place governing release of the transcripts made from the recording.


Since trains already carry event recorders, I'm kinda surprised the FRA hasn't just said "tough poo poo, you're required to carry voice recorders now", since they've been required on airplanes for decades without a single case of management using the recordings against pilots (outside of an accident), and they provide a far clearer picture of what happened in an accident than just an event recorder is able to.

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