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Yeet posted:I do hail from Rolling Meadows which is close to Downer's Grove. Does roller hockey (goalie) gear differ much from ice? You can use ice gear for inline and if you play on a surface like sports court or wood, then it shouldn't be too hard on your gear. If you are playing on a rougher surface like ashphalt, a concrete basketball court, or a tennis court, then you will want to use cheaper pads and possibly cover inside of the pads with duct tape to help limit wear. Typically for inline, you can get away with cheaper and lighter gear, since protection isn't as big of a concern and inline can be harsh on pads. If you play on a nice surface like sportscourt and intend on playing ice within the next 6-months to a year, then you can look into getting a little nicer gear, but I'd probably start out with used or SR level gear in your case. As for skates, there are inline goalie skates, which I would recommend, since they have a protective cowling and they are lower to the ground than player skates. I know some inline goalies like player skates, since they feel that they can skate better, but I never had issues skating with inline goalie skates. If you stop by the goalie thread and give us an idea of your budget and size, we can give you more specific recommendations on gear.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2011 15:35 |
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Tadhg posted:It's been forever since I've played hockey, and I've really missed it. I've daydreamed about joining a local adult league more than a few times in recent years, but it's always felt like too much to get back in shape, buy new gear, etc. Plus, SoCal doesn't have the same hockey culture that I was used to back in Boston. There is Monkey Sports in Santa Ana. It's run by the same people who run the Hockey Monkey and Goalie Monkey websites, so you should be able to get just about anything you need from there.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2011 05:07 |
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bigmike posted:Anyone have an opinion on helmets regarding concussions? There have been a wave of players who have been wearing the Cascade M11 after coming back from concussions but I've heard skeptics abound regarding their research. Their helmets are designed to be ultra-flexible (you can almost bend them in half with your hands) rather than stiff like most helmets. I've heard opinions where those are only beneficial for big hits from NHL players. It's a relatively new helmet so there isn't really a lot of data, empirical or otherwise. I'm considering that or the Bauer 9900 which is the more traditional helmet. I've heard that some pros with concussion problems will use bicycle foam in their helmets. It does a good job of absorbing energy, but it does so at the cost of destroying the foam. NHL players can afford to do this, but it probably isn't realistic for a beer leaguer. You could possibly contact Phil Maltese and see what he thinks about outfitting a player helmet with his gel padding. What materials are players helmets made out of these days? Are they still using ABS (platic) or is there anyone using kevlar or carbon fibre? I know that the type of impacts that goalies take to the mask are different than what players experience, so I don't know if you would want an ultra rigid and strong helmet that deflects impacts or if a more flexible helmet designed to compress and absorb the impact would be better. Is there any such thing as a custom helmet maker? The closest I've seen is a guy that recreates the old SK2000 masks, but using kevlar and carbon fibre. Aniki fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Mar 21, 2011 |
# ¿ Mar 21, 2011 21:53 |
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Surfing Turtle posted:You will learn to love goalie skates. Your balance is all off as goalie in stance when wearing regular skates. Also, your shuffles and explosive movements are better in them. Goalie skates also have protective cowlings, so you won't break your foot when a puck hits your skate.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2011 18:24 |
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WouldDesk posted:Got the last pair Someone is going to yiff those things.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2011 07:51 |
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I've used the Easton skate socks for a while and I've recently got a pair of the newer Bauer socks. Both are thin durable socks and the only time that I ever buy new socks are when I'm a dolt and forget my socks or realize that I only brought one with me. Needless to say, I 3-4 pairs of skate socks now. I will say that I've grown to like the longer socks, which is odd, because I prefer shorter socks for everything else.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2011 04:02 |
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El Nam posted:I have come to ask a crucial question!!! Did he have the skates heatmolded?
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2011 04:05 |
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coldwind posted:I wasn't referring to the specific case when you misjudge the puck. I'm talking about a level that you don't notice. This is kind of like the argument that white pads make it harder for shooters to find gaps or that black pads get you quicker whistles. Tape color probably has some sort of effect on the goalie's ability to track pucks off of the stick, but I'd be surprised if the effect was statistically significant. I could see how a reflective surface on the stick blade could distract your eye, but when I'm focusing on watching the puck, I don't think that I've ever really consciously noticed the color of the tape on the shooters blade. The puck is typically in front of the blade and the only important information about the blade is its angle and what part of the blade the puck the shot comes off of. One thing that I will say works are white pucks. They are very difficult to track and they have a tendency to appear suddenly and give you very little time to react. I really like using them for training, though it's been quite a while since I last did that.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2011 05:35 |
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coldwind posted:See, it's brought up that "consciously," it's never a problem. But you can't rule out that it is causing some real and effective subconscious problems for you. It is difficult to seperate what your mind consciously and subconsciously processes, but I do feel that in cases where I've tracked the puck for a while ("quiet eye" scenarios) that I am watching the puck first, so something like the color of the tape really isn't going to break my focus at that point. Now if it's a quick shot like a one-timer or I lose track of the puck and pick it up again at the last second, then I could see that as a scenario where it would be easier to get confused. That being said, I don't know which would be harder to track, a white blade against a white surface or a black puck against a black blade? I could see both having advantages at times, but I really don't know if one color is really harder to track the puck off of than the other? Anecdotally, I've noticed that a lot of the guys that used to play Juniors or above like to tape their entire blades, including the end of their blade, white. Now are their shots harder to track because they have white tape on their blades and there isn't that constrast of the end of the blade to allow your mind to fill in the gaps or are their shots harder to track, because they are more skilled players and they do a better job of disguising their shots? There are a lot of factors to tracking pucks, I brought up the angle of the blade and where the puck leaves the stick, since they both directly related to the stick blade. However, the angle of the shooter's shoulders, their posture, where the puck is in relation to their body at the time of the shot, whether they are looking forward or down, what type of shot they select, and many other factors contribute to how well you track or estimate the position of the puck. As you well know, tracking the puck is a complex skill and it's hard to isolate one factor like stick tape color and determine whether it has an absolute advantage. The goalie boards are full of endless threads talking about pad colors and patterns that supposedly create optical illusions and at least the consensus over there is that your own level of talent is a much bigger factor than any optical illusion. Maybe there are instances where a particular color or pattern make it harder for a shooter to find a gap, but it's doubtful that it is a big enough effect for it to make a difference over a long period of time. That being said, there are some pretty hilarious things people have tried, like the Stomp pads with the netting on the face or Fleury's insistance that yellow pads make it easier for shooters to find gaps, which if I remember correctly was based off of some sketchy science. Aniki fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Apr 26, 2011 |
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coldwind posted:The more I think about it, the more I think that this would actually be quite easy to test. Well, in terms of developing methodology. The technology and testing techniques are all there and have been used before. I can't imagine the funding would be there, though. There's always the placebo effect. If you feel that black tape makes your shot harder to track and it gives you confidence, then maybe that results in better performance. However, I agree that until someone produces or finds a study on the subject, then we aren't going to go far with anecdotal data. We all have our suspicisions of whether it has an effect or not, but the plural of anecdotes is not data.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2011 18:18 |
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coldwind posted:I guess I can understand having a lapse, or maybe having a mistake in communication where both D go behind the net. This guy, does not do that. He doesn't even entertain the notion of covering the front of the net. He just follows the puck. At all times. At least the one guy has the presence of mind to clear the puck out of the zone. Does he try to keep the puck near the glass/boards or does he clear it down the middle of the ice? My personal favorite are the guys that get the puck and immediately make the blind cross ice pass, which is inevitably is intercepted right in front of the crease and puts you in a horrible situation. That's right up there with your D-man holding his stick off the ice and having it deflect off of his stick and into the net.
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# ¿ May 4, 2011 04:12 |
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zinc68 posted:I present to you my beer league arena. I need to go by there the next time I'm back in Minnesota. It's kind of nuts to think that there is one facility in Blaine that has more sheets of ice than Phoenix. Phoenix has 10 sheets of ice (excluding pro arenas and inline), which is decent compared to a lot of places. As a goalie, I wonder about the logistics of getting your gear all the way to the back of the facility. Are there multiple entrances, do they have carts, or do you just tough it out or get a wheeled bag? I really need to bring my gear, play at some different rinks around town and just see how different the talent level is up there.
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# ¿ May 6, 2011 10:27 |
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Funkutron5000 posted:So, I'm moving from Los Angeles to Minneapolis for work and I'm gonna need to find new pick ups/ beer leagues. Anyone from the area have any recommendations on where/when to play? I both skate out and play goal so, really, I'm just looking for a friendly on-ice location or 5. I'm stoked to be going back to the north so I can get a lot more playing time in. Finding new places to play hockey sucks. What skill level are you? There shouldn't be a shortage of places to play, but finding an appropriate league will be the big thing.
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# ¿ May 9, 2011 00:55 |
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bewbies posted:I do two of these a week, I helped to organize one. One is pretty much just a pure pickup game, the other has a ref, etc. Both average between 15 and 20 guys per session, which is the ideal number in my opinion. Some things to keep in mind: Depending how organized you want to be, you can make it work with different skill levels. A popular format out here is each team will have an A-line and B-line. The A-line will consist of the good players and the B-line is everyone else, they keep to strict 2-minute shifts and it ensures that the skaters get plenty of ice time and play against a similar level of talent. Try your best to keep the teams as balanced as possible, because it's not nearly as fun when one team is clearly stacked. Also, it's not a bad idea to try and get someone's friend or girlfriend to run the scoreboard.
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# ¿ May 9, 2011 18:45 |
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Aggro posted:Wow, that is extremely organized. The pickup here in Miami is Tuesday and Thursday from 10:15 - midnight. The rink makes sure there are goalies, and up to 20 skaters pay $15 each to play. The players divide themselves up and play, with each shift being as long as the player wants it to be. Skill level is completely disregarded, although occasionally players will switch sides if it's horribly unbalanced. I yearn for pick-up as well-organized as what bewbies described. Open Hockey organized by rinks are almost always like this. It's fine for the most part, but sometimes the teams get heavily unbalanced, so as a goalie you can play awesome against one side and then get shelled when you switched sides. I don't mind having the challenge, but balanced games are more fun.
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# ¿ May 9, 2011 20:21 |
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Sexy Randal posted:Is blocking shots frowned up in rec hockey? There's nothing wrong with blocking shots, some guys may think that you're trying too hard and ask if you saw scouts in the stands, but really if you have an opportunity to block a shot and it's something you are comfortable doing, then I don't see a problem with it. I normally only see guys do it during critical situations, but if you can do it and you don't take yourself out of the play, then it shouldn't be a big deal.
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# ¿ May 16, 2011 07:31 |
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:It's The RecZone (Raleigh, NC, if you need it). I don't have any more details other than what the program instructors there have given us, unfortunately. Supposedly some potential buyers were scoping the rink out today but I haven't heard anything about how that went. I've got a scrimmage/learn-to-play over there tomorrow night so with any luck we'll get more info then. Speaking of the RecZone, this guy apparently plays there.
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# ¿ May 17, 2011 06:01 |
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cenzo posted:I was hoping to actually pull some kind of ninja effort like find out what I like in the store then take that knowledge to the net to try and find it cheaper than the marked up pro shop. It's not a breach of etiquette, they may not get that sale from you, but if they are helpful, then you are likely to return as a customer in the future. That being said, see if they are willing to match or beat the online price. As others have said, if you buy the skates locally, then they'll likely throw in a free profiling, initial sharpening, and baking. You'll usually get a discount on sharpening if you bring your skates back to the same shop. Though if you order skates online from a place that has a real store, then you can have them do the initial sharpening and profiling. I'm not sure how it is with player skates, but the footbeds that normally come with skates are pretty lovely, so it may be worth it to invest in Yellow Superfeet or another footbed that you find comfortable. Also, when you bake the skates make sure to wear the socks that you intend to play in (the Easton and Bauer socks are both fine) and ideally if you get Superfeet or something else, then put those in the skates for the initial baking. Edit: Finding a skate that fits your foot and is comfortable is much more important than buying a great skate that doesn't fit well. If you order online, do your best to try on that same skate locally. I did that with my Grafs and it worked out well for me. Aniki fucked around with this message at 20:57 on May 25, 2011 |
# ¿ May 25, 2011 20:53 |
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D C posted:Hooray. Memorial weekend hockey tourney in Scottsdale. Probably going to get beat handily but I'm just glad I was able to make it. That's why there is no ice time in Phoenix this weekend. How is that tournament anyway?
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# ¿ May 29, 2011 05:00 |
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bewbies posted:I just started playing roller hockey and it feels nothing like ice to me. The concept of "edges" doesn't really seem to exist. Also it seems like at least once a game a puck winds up in a spot where no one can stop fast enough to get to it, so you just have 3-4 guys skating in circles around it for a few seconds. This never fails to make me laugh. It's been around for a while now and while the technology is getting better, you still need to work harder to skate the same distance that you would on ice. Some places are switching to it, because it is cheaper to maintain than ice, but I wouldn't want to use it for anything other than practice.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 18:26 |
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Surfing Turtle posted:I have heard that synthetic ice is bad for your blades. Skating on it really heats up quick or something like that. I know that you need to sharpen your blades more frequently if you play on synthetic ice.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 18:36 |
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Surfing Turtle posted:Inline or not this should never happen. My roller league calls the game if a team goes up by 8. With inline 8 goals isn't an unsurmountable lead, especially if they score those goals early.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2011 17:37 |
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bewbies posted:At pickup last night some dildo took a chest-high cannon blast from the point when there were at least 6 people in front of the net. Not only is it not going to get through, but you're going to hurt someone. I yelled at him as did a couple of his teammates. One thing that I've always wondered is why do skaters play without shoulder pads/upper body protection while playing pickup? Is the padding really that annoying/warm or is the perceived danger of not wearing padding during pickup seem less likely to some guys?
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2011 18:05 |
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If a peg board is too much effort, then you can get a cheap plastic shelving unit from Home Depot and use that to air out your gear. It works really well for airing out and drying my goalie gear: I wish people would air out their gear instead of letting it ferment a hockey bag in the back of their car. Most gear smell isn't bad enough to notice, but some guys' gear have this massive, peppery smelling dead hobo funk that makes my eyes water. Maybe it's a tactical advantage, but for the benefit of everyone else on the ice, make an effort to air out your gear and keep it dry in between games.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2011 23:22 |
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xzzy posted:I think the lesson learned here is that when scouting out a new home, pick one that's as close as possible to a pro team practice facility. The Ice Den is the nicest rink and Phoenix and it's the Coyotes practice facility, so that holds true here.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2011 06:56 |
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toxicsunset posted:I don't get the hatred for ringers some people have. The games don't really mean anything and while a team chock-full of them can be pretty lame, I have a couple of friends of mine that play on the low level teams with me that could easily play up higher but they'd rather play with their friends than play on a higher level team with strangers. It's not always about dominating easy competition My feelings are kind of mixed on ringers. As a goalie, it's more interesting to face better shooters and I can totally understand someone wanting to play with their friends. That being said, it is annoying when you face a team taht is deadset on winning the beer league championship and all of a sudden you notice a lot of players that you've never seen before. I guess that my preference is that if you have a ringer, then always have them on your team, but if they magically appear down the stretch or during the playoffs, then it's a lovely thing to do. Try to keep your league as balanced as possible, so that it's fun for everyone.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2011 22:00 |
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Are there any skate laces on the market that either have a metal sleeve at the end of the lace or at least has a plastic sleeve that doesn't break after a couple of weeks? I've just been using the standard waxed A&R (?) laces and I'm sick of the sleeve breaking and rendering the laces useless.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 07:24 |
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Martytoof posted:Do you pull your laces out completely? I haven't had any I looked up the word last week, but aglet had already fled from my vocabulary. I usually pull the laces out from the first two rows of eyelets and then thread them through when I put my skates back on. I'll try cutting the end and see if I can thread them through again. I normally haven't had problems with this, but I've killed two sets of laces in the past few months and my set before that lasted well over a year.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 08:45 |
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Martytoof posted:Hint: If you melt your laces, don't let the hot plastic drip onto your finger I may just get new laces and try not to gently caress them up this time. I just don't trust myself with things like fire and molten plastic. I'd be such a terrible junkie.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 08:55 |
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Those are all good tips. I ended up buying some laces with molded tips, the only one's that they had in my size were red, so they should last forever, because they look awful.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2011 00:04 |
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coldwind posted:Yes, metal aglets on skate laces do exist. Gorilla Laces. I looked for those when I was at the hockey ahop today, but they didn't have them. I ended up buying a brand called Howies, they were unwaxed, but had a molded tip, which doesn't seem prone to breaking like the plastic aglets did. I'm now 1-0 wearing the clown colored skate laces.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2011 06:02 |
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Verman posted:Sean skinner. That dude has amazing hands and his "Stick handling Beyond belief" videos are pretty interesting. Lots of terrible music and stuff but great technique and practice drills. Speaking of stick handling videos, I filled in net for one of Brad Perry's skill sessions the other night. The dude is an amazing stick handler and he seemed to be a really good teacher.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2011 17:52 |
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Verman posted:Just substitute it with an Al's Italian beef + provalone and hot gardinera We used to have an Al's Italian Beef in Scottsdale, but it closed recently. They had really good polish sausage.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2011 18:52 |
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I'm the captain of a new team at a rink by my house. Do any of you guys have experience running a team before and do you know what sort of problems I should expect? At least I'm a goalie, so I don't need to worry about that part, but I assume the duties will be coming up with lines and making sure that people show up. I also need to come up with team colors and a name. I'm leaning towards something like the Plague Doctors or the Thylacines, but I'm weird and just found out about this an hour ago. Let me know if you guys have any suggestions for team names.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2011 07:09 |
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poser posted:Last season was my first running a team: I’m expecting that people will bail and to a certain extent, I’m ok with that, since it means that I can begin putting my own people on the team. For now, the league director is recruiting the players and only giving me the info for people who have already paid, so I need to wait for him to finish acquiring players. As you said, I’m hoping that we can find a core group of guys out of that group and I’ll definitely need to find an alternate/assistant captain that wants to handle talking to players on the bench and dealing with refs. I can probably get a handle on lines after a couple games, but I see the game differently from the crease than they do on the ice, so I’d like to have a player handle lines and I’d just provide some input. I like the idea of using the hockeyvite system and I’ll use something like that along with emails and a team facebook page to try and make sure that people know when the games are. I’ll definitely stress that I don’t care if people need to miss games, but please let know ahead of time, so that I can make sure that we have enough people and find subs. At least I don’t have to worry about finding a goalie that shows up, so I have that part settled and I know people who could sub if I can’t make it. The league does have jerseys that we can use, so we’ll start off wearing those and I’m seeing if anyone is willing to sponsor the team or front money for the jerseys, so we’ll see what happens with that. I’m fine waiting until the second season to get real jerseys, but I’m still trying to get ideas on pricing. I do know that I want the logo and numbers to be sewn on, since screen printed and heat pressed logos and numbers go to poo poo pretty fast. We will have issues with weird game times for the first half of the season, but once the third rink opens up, then the schedule should get better. I’m going to start working on a sublist soon. I’m checking with some people that I know who run teams at another rink to see if I can ask their players to sub or play in our league, since it wouldn’t conflict with their league, but I’m asking first since I don’t want to cause drama. I’ll need to get a puck bag and some pucks. Would I want to have about 10-15 pucks? I’ll need to see if we are required to bring a roster or not. I should have time to run things and people are happy with doing most of the communication online, then that makes things a lot easier for me. I think the second season is when roster issues will get really annoying, since for now I don’t have to worry about players paying and telling people that they can’t come back. Hopefully, we won’t need to do the latter, but we’ll see if any jerks or deadbeats emerge.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2011 19:14 |
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I just purchased a puck bag and 15 pucks for my team. Is there anything else that I need to bring as a captain? I know that the captain for the other team that I play on always brings a first aid kit with aspirin and antacid tablets, so I assume that I should bring something similar.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2011 22:19 |
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:9/11 Never Forget How long have you had it for?
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2011 08:29 |
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Almost all of Warrior's blades look like they were designed by Ed Hardy. Thank god for stick tape. Warrior designs all of their gear to appeal to douchey 13-year olds, but some of their equipment is still good. I'm interested to see if Pete Smith will make their goalie gear worthwhile.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2011 21:52 |
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poser posted:I'm already over this season.. Eek. I'm definitely not going to do group pay with my team, when our second season roles around, I'm just going to make everyone pay the rink directly. It may cost a little more per player, but it seems like it would save me from some major headaches/expenses. I'm doing ok being a captain so far, people are being good about telling when they won't be able to make games, but I'm still waiting to see who will step up and be my assistant captain, since it's hard for me to handle the on ice duties from the net. I'm sure as the season wears on, it will be harder to keep track of everyone and we'll start getting some unannounced no shows. We also have one guy on the team that is bringing jerseys next week, so I should have a good idea by then if they'll work for us or if we still want to get our own jerseys. It does seem like most of the guys want new uniforms though and I've got the pricing down to about $50 each for RBK edge jerseys with a sewn on logo and numbers.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2011 00:30 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:39 |
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I know there is an ice rink out there, since there is supposed to be a huge tournament right around the end of September.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2011 20:00 |