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quote:I was waiting for the subway recently, and when it arrived I wasn’t sure if it was the local or the express. As I craned to read the sign on the side of the train car, I felt a two-handed push. I turned and half expected to see someone I know, playfully greeting me with a shove. But it was a stranger wearing big sunglasses. She looked at me with disgust—I guess I was in her way—but not as much disgust as the man with her, who gave me a death stare as he passed. The train was local; I got on a different car. lol, loving pitchfork here's jeff haywards great crust band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOI4_Vxh5fI
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I can write an introduction to d-beat / crust post if you want
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Apr 26, 2018 21:37
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ok, here goes. i'll try to keep this short first of all these are just my opinions and some ppl will probably disagree with me, but then again punk is a clusterfuck of microgenres and scenes (can anyone honestly explain the differences between grindcore, thrashcore, noisecore and power violence so that someone who's never heard any of them would understand?) and there's no central authority to any of this stuff. let's start with the terms: 82 hardcore, d-beat, raw punk and crust. 82 hardcore is used only with bands that were active in '82 or around it and thus created the style. d-beat or discharge beat is the name of a drumbeat originally used by discharge in a punk context: it had been used before but discharge was the first to use it the way they did. it can also mean a style of hardcore where the drums play nothing but the d-beat. raw punk is another term for the '82 bands, but also for modern bands who try to replicate the sound of those lovely, early demos. it generally uses nothing but the d-beat and is like the raw black metal of punk: super lofi sound, simple riffs and sloppy playing. so raw punk is d-beat but not all d-beat is raw punk, hah. crust or crustcore is a more of an umbrella term for dark, political style of hardcore and also a both a style of clothing and life in general. these terms are pretty much thrown around and usually just mean the same thing: fast and political metallic hardcore with its roots in discharge. first off was the '82 bands, led by discharge. back then the style hasn't found it's form yet, so bands varied from the metallic, pounding monotone of discharge to the gloomy dirge of amebix. england was the birthplace, but bored teenagers started forming bands in scandinavia and japan soon followed thanks to tape trading. curiously the us only started producing this stuff in the late 80s or early 90s. i guess it's because you guys had such a strong hardcore scene and it was pretty unpolitical, concentrating more on drinking beer, having fun and fighting, where as european bands were a lot more political from the start. english '82 bands: discharge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pfiLjL6-HI amebix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZHZlg6Q0M scandinavian (swedish & finnish) bands: terveet kädet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLycmd0B_80 anti cimex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG8R9e8KOs4 shitlickers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XxscpCp7A japan: GISM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHQkO4S_XU later d-beat / crust (this is more like consume): bastard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlY7pNCJSBY anti cimex (from their comeback in the 90s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pls2KVJ7-0E sacrilege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDFXDu9Mlo disrupt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7R66xKtLCg tragedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfsWgwKCjnk wolfpack / wolfbrigade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63WaZYjaGEA some raw punk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQrdIEQfwQ Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Apr 26, 2018 22:45
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What about hick hop https://youtu.be/QD9G9tG7WXQ
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butros posted:Thanks for the effort post. I am really looking forward to working my way through all this. yeah np. also whats notable about discharge is that they were the main influence on early death metal, grindcore and even sludge. swedish death metal was mostly old punks who wanted to play faster and faster. for example tompa from at the gates was in a punk band before his metal career and joined disfear after at the gates went on hiatus. bathory's first album is straight up discharge worship. sepultura wore rattus & kaaos shirts on their early videos. some members of grief were in disrupt, then formed grief and after grief went back to d-beat with consume and morne. eyehategod has acknowledged the influence on multiple interviews etc. even metallica covered them on garage inc. so hugely influential band. i was gonna write more about what happened after the 80s, but maybe just a list of influential or good albums will do. btw here's some more finnish bands, i love living in a country with a vibrant punk scene going back 40 years now. kohti tuhoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIv_cjFZOMg uutuus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYmOIFC_7E mellakka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKZMp7n_soQ kaaos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjHFg3agqYI rattus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzWOY-Jvi7o pohjasakka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBTYsL0kuI Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Apr 27, 2018 10:55
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Earthride and goblin are cool
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May 10, 2018 14:26
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A human heart posted:To me the album sounds like they forgot how to write songs. Like there's one song i liked and the others just sound like mashups of offcut riffs from their old albums. honestly i've been thinking this since atma. the great cessation was great but after it, meh
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May 16, 2018 14:27
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speaking of yob and that shadow of the torturer shirt, there's a doom band called shadow of the torturer that used to have travis from yob on drums. also mike played with a lot of the same dudes in h.c. minds, including old yob bassist isamu sato. https://shadowofthetorturer1.bandcamp.com/ A human heart posted:I'd disagree with this actually, I thought all the songs on the last one were very good(which isn't easy since they're all really long) with almost no filler at all. i listened to it maybe twice or three times but it just didn't grab me at all. atma was even worse, adrift in the ocean is an ok song but other than that it was just boring. the super muddy sound on both albums doesn't really help, either Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 14:35 on May 16, 2018 |
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May 16, 2018 14:32
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maybe i'll give clearing the path a new chance, my GF loves it too
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May 16, 2018 14:42
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Quantum of Phallus posted:How are you all listening to the full album? Can a soul enlighten me it's likely leaked. some people still download mp3's, hah
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May 16, 2018 15:15
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Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:It's leaked in a HQ 320kb format too. The Screen initially caught my attention but, the whole album is pretty great. I think the vocals are most improved. has mike learned a new vocal style aside from cosmic axl rose and gutter troll?
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May 16, 2018 16:08
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i'd like to remind you that mike scheidt has released a p. loving sappy hippie folk solo album, so the new YOB combining that mood with doom metal riffs isn't that surprising the solo stuff is seriously not very good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMZbjOL2a-g
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