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Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Some Galactus and other cosmic stuff, from his first appearances.






Fantastic Four #48 (1966)
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Joe Sinnott


Fantastic Four #49 (1966)
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Joe Sinnott


Fantastic Four #50 (1966)
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Joe Sinnott




Fantastic Four #51 (1966)
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Joe Sinnott

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Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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The Amazing Spider-Man Family #5 (2009)
Pencils: Ron Frenz
Inks: Sal Buscema




Captain Courageous Comics #6 (1942)
Pencils/Inks: Unknown


Jungle Action #1 (1972)
Pencils/Inks: Syd Shores


Our Flag Comics #5 (1942)
Pencils/Inks: George Mandel

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Strange Tales #94 (1962)
Pencils/Inks: Steve Ditko


Strange Tales #95 (1962)
Pencils/Inks: Steve Ditko


Strange Tales #97 (1962)
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Dick Ayers


Strange Tales #97 (1962)
Pencils/Inks: Steve Ditko

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Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Ghost Manor #36 (1978)
Pencils/Inks: Sanho Kim




Warlock #11 (1976)
Pencils: Jim Starlin
Inks: Steve Leialoha

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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College Slice
And a couple of two-page pin-ups.


Giant-Size Defenders #1 (1974)
Pencils/Inks: Sal Buscema


Duckman #1 (1994)
Pencils/Inks: Everett Peck

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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College Slice
Arguably not an art issue, but I just finished up reading the 2001 run of Exiles, and that poor series was just plagued by lettering/text errors. Here are a few of the more striking ones.


Exiles #1 (2001)
Lettering: Sharpefont, Paul Tutrone


Exiles #5 (2001)
Lettering: Sharpefont, Paul Tutrone


Exiles #12 (2002)
Lettering: Paul Tutrone
Each of those boxes by a character is supposed to have some info on who they are. Also, Deadpool's speech balloon.


Exiles #70 (2005)
Lettering: Dave Sharpe




Exiles #86 (2006)
Lettering: Dave Sharpe

And it even persisted into the follow-up series.


New Exiles #9 (2008)
Lettering: Tom Orzechowski

On a different note, very important to include these rear end details in this corpse-bearing scene.

Exiles #83 (2006)
Pencils: Casey Jones
Inks: Vince Russell

And... this.

New Exiles #2 (2008)
Pencils/Inks: Michael Golden

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Dr. Fate #10 (1989)
Pencils/Inks: Shawn McManus


Spawn #9 (1993)
Pencils/Inks: Todd McFarlane
(This issue dedicated to Harvey Kurtzman)

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Tigerman #3 (1975)
Pencils: Steve Ditko
Inks: Al Milgrom


The Defenders #45 (1977)
Pencils: Keith Giffen & Klaus Janson
Inks: Klaus Janson

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BooDooBoo posted:

I wouldn't have guessed that was Giffen, was it a layouts/finish thing with Janson doing the fine work?

I love Giffen art, but it's so distinctive I just can't line it up with what I expect from him!
On the comics.org page for this issue, Giffen is credited with "breakdowns", Janson with "finished art".

Edge & Christian posted:

Giffen has gone through a lot of styles over the years, his earliest Defenders work was very much a Kirby pastiche before transitioning into a sort of "classical" photo reference-y superhero artist a few years later in his star-making Legion of Super Heroes run with Paul Levitz.
Yeah, Giffen was capable of some very passable Kirby homage. This is from three issues later.


The Defenders #48 (1977)
Pencils: Keith Giffen (breakdowns); Dan Green (finished art)
Inks: Dan Green

And in less successful Kirby emulation...

The Destructor #4 (1975)
Pencils: Steve Ditko
Inks: Al Milgrom


Detective Comics #2 (1937)
Pencils/Inks: Ed Winiarski

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Superboy #77 (1959)
Pencils/Inks: George Papp


Superman #20 (1943)
Pencils/Inks: John Sikela (as Joe Shuster)

And MJ's weird use of writing space.


Spider-Man Unlimited #8 (1995)
Credits (from a 50-page story)
Pencils: Ron Lim (breakdowns); Tom Palmer (finishes); Al Milgrom (finishes); Scott Hanna (finishes); Harry Candelario (finishes)
Inks: Tom Palmer; Al Milgrom; Scott Hanna; Harry Candelario
Lettering: Joe Rosen

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Help I’ve got a giant frowning face protruding from my chest

I’m Batman

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Strange Tales #114 (1963)
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Dick Ayers


The Many Ghosts of Doctor Graves #35 (1972)
Pencils & Inks: Tom Sutton




The Many Ghosts of Doctor Graves #35 (1972)
Pencils & Inks: Steve Ditko


Speedball #8 (1989)
Pencils: Steve Ditko
Inks: Bruce Patterson


Slingers #11 (1999)
Pencils: Javier Saltares
Inks: Rich Perrota and Larry Mahlstedt

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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New Exiles #11 (2008)
Pencils: Paco Diaz Luque
Inks: Norberto Fernandez


Blue Beetle #19 (1943)
Pencils/Inks: unknown

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Spider-Girl’s mid-air butt pose is cracking me up.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Blue Beetle #20 (1943)
Pencils/Inks: Allen Ulmer (probably)


What If...? #81 (1996)
Pencils/Inks/Colors: Kevin Hopgood


Power Man and Iron Fist #80 (1982)
Pencils: Denys Cowan
Inks: Ricardo Villamonte

And a batch of Sienkiewicz, pencils and inks on all the following.


Moon Knight #9 (1981)


Moon Knight #26 (1982)


Moon Knight #29 (1983)


Moon Knight #30 (1983)


Moon Knight #37 (1984)

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Hawkeye #2 (1983)
Pencils: Mark Gruenwald (breakdowns); Brett Breeding (finished art)
Inks: Brett Breeding
and the star of this panel
Colors: Bob Sharen

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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(that's supposed to be Peter Parker in the bottom-left panel)
Spider-Man Unlimited #10 (1995)

Pencils: Shawn McManus and Roy Burdine (flashback pencils)
Inks: John Nyberg and Shawn McManus

Darthemed
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Spider-Man Unlimited #12 (1996)

Pencils: Paris Karounos; Steven Butler; Steve Geiger
Inks: Randy Emberlin; Derek Fisher; Paris Karounos; Scott Hanna; Al Milgrom; Steven Butler

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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And this is how the skeleton plot element is introduced in that story.


Spider-Man Unlimited #12 (1996)

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Spider-Man Unlimited #13 (1996)
Pencils: Joe Bennett
Inks: Randy Emberlin; Al Milgrom; Steve Montano
Mainly stood out to me because it seems like the penciler was interpreting Luke's tiara as a visor


Blue Beetle #27 (1943)
Pencils & inks: Sam Cooper (presumed)




All-Flash #10 (1943)
Pencils & inks: E. E. Hibbard


Spider-Man Unlimited #20 (1998)
Pencils: Joe Bennett
Inks: Joe Pimentel

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Pages (mostly) without dialogue, from the Mirage Studios printing of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie. All of these were omitted from the Archie printing of the same title. Maybe they didn't like the way the tails were drawn?












Pencils: Jim Lawson
Inks: Eric Talbot, Kevin Eastman, and Peter Laird


Superboy #105 (1963)
Pencils/inks: Al Plastino

Darthemed
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Silk #16 (2017)
Pencils/inks: Irene Strychalski




Gotham by Midnight #6 (2015)
Pencils/inks: Juan Ferreyra




Gotham by Midnight #10 (2015)
Pencils/inks: Juan Ferreyra


Gotham by Midnight #12 (2016)
Pencils/inks: Juan Ferreyra




Mystery Men Comics #21 (1941)
Pencils/inks: Dick Briefer

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Opening pages of Sensation She-Hulk #43, before the editor shows up and yells at Byrne for using another artist's style.











My question is, whose art style is being imitated? First thought is Art Adams, but something tells me I'm off-base there.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Mystery Men Comics #22 (1941)
Pencils/Inks: Dick Briefer


Weird Wonder Tales #6 (1974)
Pencils/Inks: Bill Everett

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Ghost Rider #62 (1981)
Pencils: Jack Sparling (breakdowns); Mike Esposito (finished art)
Inks: Mike Esposito

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Future Quest Presents #6 (2018)


Future Quest Presents #7 (2018)

Pencils/Inks: Steve Rude
Colors: John Kalisz

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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Jonny Quest #5 (1986)
Pencils/Colors/Inks: Dave Stevens

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Too busy drawing robot bugs to finish Wonder Woman, I guess.


And then Superman is turning into a Star Trek alien.

Earth 2 #0 (2012)
Pencils/Inks: Tomas Giorello

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Strange Tales #146 (1966)
Pencils/Inks: Ditko
Colors: Stan Goldberg(?)


Strange Tales #148 (1966)
Colors: Stan Goldberg(?)


Strange Tales #149 (1966)
Colors: Stan Goldberg(?)

Really digging the apparent influence on Allred in those last two splash pages.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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The Punisher #58 (1992)
Pencils: Hugh Haynes
Inks: Jimmy Palmiotti
Colors: Marie Javins


The Punisher #84 (1993)
Pencils: Hugh Haynes
Inks: Mark McKenna; Mick Gray
Colors: John Kalisz


The Punisher War Journal #19 (1990)
Pencils: Jim Lee
Inks: Al Milgrom; Don Hudson (Backgrounds)
Colors: Gregory Wright

Darthemed
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Heavy Metal posted:

I would love to hear your review/impressions on all these old Punisher comics. And in general are you reading all these ol' yarns, or flipping through them, reading blogs on them etc?

I was going through a zillion blogs which post a few pics as well for old comics a while back, including Punisher. SuperMegaMonkey is a good one.

From my research, it seemed to me maybe Punisher ongoing 1-25 and War Journal 1-27 are worth a look, possibly falls off fast after that. And even the early stuff looks like it's a historical document/mixed bag, but with B-movie pulp charm that looks appealing at times.

I did enjoy Circle of Blood. But yeah, the idea that you recently just marathoned through 100 of these Punisher comics is a funny thought. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Reminds me of how Douglas Wolk for his book on all of Marvel, he likes to talk about how he stayed locked up in an apartment and just read all of Punisher in one chunk. And it was a dark time, but he had to get through it.
I'm reading through these, issue by issue. I had been doing the second volume (the 1987-1995 run) here and there, mixed in with other comics runs I'm working my way through, but after wrapping up Quasar and Sensational She-Hulk, I thought I'd take a stab to see how many Punisher issues I could plow through. Issues in that run are pretty easily digestible, and since the Max series was where I really started off with the character, a lot of it seems quaint in comparison. Ditto for the use of computers, given the era, as they get involved in the plot so often, with whatever magic the writer needs from them being essentially hand-waved. Mike Baron does a good job of spinning light crime/action dramas that usually wrap in one issue, and the art is generally decent; neither art nor stories tend to be that memorable, though there are exceptions, like #52 ("Lupe"), which focuses on a woman who steals babies to resell to adopting couples. Engaging story, but it also had this cover art.

It was interesting coming to it from Quasar, which was loaded with little Marvel characters from all over the continuity popping in for an issue or two, as Punisher v2 goes without visits from characters occupying other parts of the Marvel universe, for the most part. Kingpin is the one most likely to turn up, then Daredevil, then Wolverine (because Wolverine). That made stuff like the Reavers jumping over from Australia to attack Frank's warehouse, or Castle visiting Doom in Latveria to chat about a bounty on his head feel all that more amusing or out-of-place. That said, props to the "Eurohit" storyline (#64-#70) for including Batroc and the Tarantula without it seeming too ludicrous, even with trash-talk about each other's kickboxing abilities. I also enjoyed that storyline for taking Frank on a run through country after country, which is something that hadn't really been used in the series until that point. Sure, Punisher might be in, say, Colombia in one story, then an Iraq stand-in in the next, but there wasn't connective tissue between the two, or making the trip between them part of the story, until "Eurohit." So I'd say writing off the main series after issue 25 would be doing yourself a disservice if you've enjoyed it up to that point. Another point of amusement comes in the kinks of the CCA enforcement; kill off a hundred villains in an issue, sure, but Castle can't say "hell."

So I'm making good progress through the series, and then I hit #85, which starts a storyline with issues in The Punisher War Journal. So now (after doing a quick run through assorted Punisher one-shots like The Prize, Return to Big Nothing, and Bloodlines) I'm working through that series, to catch up to that point. And v2 will end with a storyline that has issues not just in War Journal, but in The Punisher: War Zone as well, so I'll have to do a catch-up run on that series eventually. Actually, looking it over right now, it looks like the "Suicide Run" storyline starting in mainline #85 has two issues in War Zone, so I'll be tackling that sooner than I thought.

War Journal seems to be more willing to include superheroes and more fantastical stuff (one of the early issues has Punisher protecting surviving dinosaurs in Africa, with a guest spot from Wolverine), and feels like it has advance storylines thought out more, with a bunch of breadcrumbs for future storylines dropped at the end of the first issue. Mainline Punisher v2 feels a lot more likely to throw in a filler issue, or dig out an unused script, especially once it hits a bi-monthly schedule. Thing is, sometimes those are more satisfying than the more drawn-out stories, and they tend to have fewer fumbling attempts at overt moralizing. Having Frank narrow his focus to a specific, localized problem, then blast through it (optimally running into someone capable enough to flip the tables on him for a few pages, and without Frank flashing back to his origin) tends to deliver a more visceral scenario.

I haven't hit as many outright ridiculous sequences as I was expecting, but some Punisher panels will definitely be showing up in the Funny Panels thread in the near future. Most absurd cover so far would be this one, which could almost be a Pat Mills parody piece.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

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#26 and #27 are a two-parter that's enjoyable, they involve rescuing a whistle-blower and coming up against the US Navy.
#42 has Castle taking on a CSA video ring; the main draw here is arguably to see how much Mike Baron has to dance around the details of that plot.
#43 is a one-shot taking Castle to Mexico; what I most liked about this issue is a spoiler, so you can save this until after reading the issue: Frank sends himself down there on a death-avenging mission he's convinced himself the victim's wife wants, which leaves him with unsatisfied bloodlust at the end. Brushes up against Castle's shortsightedness and delusional justifications in ways that better stories would expand on. It also has some heavy-inked artwork, which I liked, but that's even more a matter of personal preference.
#44 (hey, they really had a streak going here) mixes performance art flag-burning with the volatility of a run-down former automotive plant town in the south. It also has Frank whining about rap music.
#45 is one of those self-contained stories I was praising in the previous post. Someone is killing cab drivers, so Frank poses as one to track the killer down.
#52 I mentioned in the last post.
#60 is the first issue after a seven-issue story arc that takes Frank to prison, and ended with him getting plastic surgery so that no one would recognize him. The last issue gave a last-page reveal of the results, but this is the first full issue to deal with what Mike Baron decided to do with that set-up. Arguably the first step towards subsequent treatments of the character like 'Frank Castle is divinely empowered' and 'Frank Castle is a Frankenstein creature.'
#71 is the first issue following the seven-issue story arc of "Eurohit," and features Frank coming back to his usual stomping grounds after that international romp. He then decides things have gotten too unruly in his absence, and goes on a clean-up mission to eliminate a bunch of small fish. Kind of feels like a precursor to the Max series in its pacing and sweep.
#80 kind of flips the usual formula on its head by giving us the perspective of a criminal for most of the issue, showing how hunted he feels once he's crossed the path of the Punisher.

And for an anti-recommendation, there's #81, which really didn't gel for me. That's mainly because of the art, done by Hoang Nguyen, who shows up to provide pencils and inks for this issue, and then doesn't show up again for the rest of the series' run. Not terrible art, just not at all in line with the average style that had been used by the numerous art teams that rotated through the series before then.
Here's the front cover:


And the first page:


Something tells me he might have been on a time crunch.

Reading through these has also turned a small irritation about Frank having a vacuum-sealed suit into a big annoyance. Reed Richards isn't sending Frank unstable molecules for Christmas, and his suit is packed with kevlar; it should have some looseness and slack to it, so all the gunfire he takes to the chest isn't one-to-one transferring the impact into his sternum. But wanting thought to be put into the costuming of early-'90s Marvel characters is just another form of masochism, so whatever.

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Oct 28, 2007

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Heavy Metal posted:

Much thanks! And thank you the 90s.
Glad to help. If you find any of those picks especially enjoyable or laughable (#60 being the ringer), I'd be happy to hear about it.

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

That Doug Braithwaite fight between Batroc and Tarantula is one of my favourite comic book throwdowns, to the point I took my av from it.
Here are those pages, so others can enjoy it.











The Punisher #69 (1992)
Pencils: Dougie Braithwaite
Inks: Al Williamson
Colors: Christie Scheele

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Strange Tales #154 (1967)
Pencils/Inks: Jim Steranko
Colors: Stan Goldberg




Silver Surfer #31 (1989)
Pencils: Ron Lim
Inks: Tom Christopher and Keith Williams
Colors: Tom Vincent

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I know this is more pages from a single issue than is usually done, but I couldn't come up with a way to break this up or cut it down any more without really reducing the impact.























Silver Surfer #31 (1989)
Pencils: Ron Lim
Inks: Tom Christopher and Keith Williams
Colors: Tom Vincent

Big blue face page has become my tablet lock screen.

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The Punisher War Zone #11 (1993)
Pencils: Mike Harris (layouts)
Inks: Mike Harris (finishes); Mike Manley (finishes); Joe Brozowski (finishes)
Colors: Kevin Tinsley


The Punisher War Zone #16 (1993)
Pencils: Mike McKone
Inks: Mark McKenna and Mick Gray
Colors: Kevin Tinsley


The Punisher War Journal #50 (1993)
Pencils/Inks: John Hinklenton


The Punisher War Journal #61 (1993)
Pencils: Phil Gosier
Inks: Frank Percy
Colors: Lia Pelosi


The Punisher #95 (1994)
Pencils/Inks: Frank Teran
Colors: Michael Golden


The Punisher Summer Special #1 (1991)
Pencils: Mike Harris
Inks: Jimmy Palmiotti
Colors: Joe Rosas


The Punisher Summer Special #2 (1992)
Pencils/Inks: John Hinklenton
Colors: Ed Lazellari


The Punisher Annual #5 (1992)
Pencils: Jae Lee
Inks: Bob Wiacek


The Punisher Year One #3 (1995)
Pencils: Dale Eaglesham
Inks: Scott Koblish
Colors: Justin Gabrie and Colin Jorgensen


Marvel Knights #12 (2001)
Pencils: Eduardo Barreto
Inks: Nelson Decastro
Colors: Avalon Studios and Dave Kemp

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Yeah, it's a mix of stuff I found striking in a good way (like the first Hinklenton one) and goofy ways (the Gosier page that looks like the inspiration for Superhero Squad, JNCO Punisher, and the controller in the Marvel Knights page)

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Superman changing things up by putting on the kid gloves.

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Primarily Punisher art, so gore and edginess ahead.


Born #4 (2003)
Pencils: Darick Robertson
Inks: Tom Palmer
Colors: Paul Mounts


The Punisher: The End (2004)
Pencils & Inks: Richard Corben
Colors: Lee Loughridge


The Punisher: Red X-Mas #1 (2005)
Pencils: Mark Texeira
Inks: Jimmy Palmiotti
Colors: Raúl Treviño




The Punisher: The Cell (2005)
Pencils: Lewis LaRosa
Inks: Scott Koblish
Colors: Raúl Treviño


The Punisher #20 (2005)
Pencils: Leandro Fernandez
Inks: Scott Hanna
Colors: Dan Brown


The Punisher #24 (2005)
Pencils: Leandro Fernandez
Inks: Scott Hanna
Colors: Dan Brown


The Punisher #41 (2007)
Pencils & Inks: Leandro Fernandez
Colors: Dan Brown & Giulia Brusco


The Punisher #61 (2008)
Pencils & Inks: Laurence Campbell
Colors: Lee Loughridge


The Punisher #63 (2008)
Pencils & Inks: Laurence Campbell
Colors: Lee Loughridge


The Punisher: Little Black Book (2008)
Pencils & Inks: Jefte Palo
Colors: Lee Loughridge


The Blue Beetle #31 (1944)
artist unknown


Official Handbook of the Ultimate Marvel Universe 2005: The Fantastic Four & Spider-Man (2005)
Artist: Salvador Larroca

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Can't shake the impression that Elektra's awkward stance is her trying to shift the off-center thong back into place.

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