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Dacap posted:
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My taste in artists range quite a bit. I love Jim Lee who has a very traditional approach to the artwork. Despite having a lot of imitators I think he still has a very unique a cool style.  I love the weirdness that is Kelly Jones, and really consider him one of the best Batman artists. His style is very exaggerated and weird, and may not be anatomically correct, but it is more of a style choice than lovely artwork. His work on Batman was dark and more gothic than straightforwward which worked well for Batman vs Draculla: Blood Rain  Another favourite is Sam Kieth who also works in exaggerated forms and such. What I love about his artwork is that it can come across both as cartoony and dark/scary at the same time.  The only problem with Kieth is that his artwork can be a bit scratchy at times making it look a bit incomprehensible. Some panels will be beautiful and others will look like random pencil lines.
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Apr 4, 2011 20:07
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Alhazred posted:Have to say that I don't see the why so many love Jim Lee. Technically he's good but I don't see how he's unique. I just find his art very generic. I can understand this and I can see why people say this. For me he has a very traditional style. His artwork isn't trying to be more than it is. He is doing artwork for superhero comic books and it doesn't try to be anything else. For this I think he does a very good job.
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Apr 4, 2011 20:50
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The reason I like stuff by Jones and Kieth is they set up a great atmosphere and mood with their work. Reading Jones run on Batman was like watching a 1920's German Expressionism film about Batman. The thing that seperates them from someone like Liefeld is that they purposely distort and rearrange anatomy and setting to give the comic a certain field, and someone like Liefeld is just a lovely artist.
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Apr 5, 2011 19:56
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Alhazred posted:I agree with that. But I still kinda rolled my eyes when I saw his covers for Catwoman, maybe especially because the Brubaker run was almost no focus on t&a. But suddenly Catwoman's cleavage and not her personality was important (this is as much the new writer's fault as the artists though). And none of those covers were as bad as Greg Horn's. I might be wrong but wasn't there a bit of a case where the edited the Catwoman covers to make her look more....er.....sexualised? Like lowering the zip to show her chest and stuff like that. I don't really remember much but I recall something like that.
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Apr 12, 2011 21:45
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Breakfast Cereal posted:The worst part about the Catwoman picture is that neither of her legs appear to be touching the ground. Hell, both of her shins appear to be missing. She's clearly balancing on her tits. In the Powergirl picture a few posts up I thought PG was missing everything below her torso. Basically her entire body is made up of her chest, her arms, her neck and head.
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Apr 14, 2011 23:42
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Talking about good artists that have become crappy (Chaykin) what are peoples opinions about Kyle Baker? I like his earlier stuff but his most recent stuff has been rather offputting.
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Apr 24, 2011 00:56
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Kismet posted:It's time to talk about Will Eisner. I just finished reading a biography about him and he really was revolutionary for his time, and even now. His splash page opening to the Spirit stories (like the one you posted up there) was unheard of at the time and his publisher often wanted him to just do a cover instead of some complicated art intro where people woudln't even find the name Spirit in it. edit: Also the whole piece of art that you have up there of Hamlet's "to be speech" was done when some writer said artists could not portray true emotion in art. Eisner proved him wrong.
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Jun 13, 2011 20:41
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Also take into consideration that a lot of comic book artists grew up reading comic books and dreaming of the day they could draw said comicbooks. So for someone with a great style getting a gig on Batman it might seem like a dream come true.
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Jun 20, 2011 03:14
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Quantify! posted:Spending time on fanfiction instead of original stories is a waste of talent. Working on franchise superheros is essentially working on fanfiction. So you don't read "franchise comics" and therefore they are a waste of time and anyone working on them is either a hack or someone working on fanfiction. Just want to make sure that that is the point you are making. I can understand not liking or wanting to read any Batman/X-Men/etc comics but to just dismiss anything that is good that comes out of them as "fanfiction" is stupid.
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Jun 20, 2011 19:53
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At my library we have two books by Shaun Tan. The Arrival and Lost and Found. The Arrival is the story of an immigrant moving to a strange land looking for work so he can eventually move his family over. He is looking for a better life in other words. The entire story is told in pictures only, and it really captures the amazement and experience of going somewhere new. It helps when the pictures look like these:   His story telling is so superb that you just have to look at the artwork to know what is going on. Lost and Found is an anthology of sorts. The first story, the Red Tree has pictures like this   I would love to show you more from the other two stories in the book but I think you get the point. For the red Tree Tan said he tried to draw emotions that you can't put into words (all while telling a story). If you look at his work you will get the feeling that he accomplished it.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:15
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Humboldt squid posted:These are probably the best in this thread so far, holy poo poo. Is there anywhere I can get this one Infor about getting prints can be found here. I have looked into it and seriously if I had the money to spend (they go for around $195 dollars excluding shipping I would do it.
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Sep 21, 2011 23:21
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Head disconnection is running rampart throughout the Marvel Universe In a way that does look rather...weird but then again I find it hard to compare that to the Greg Land stuff. One artist is working with a style that doesn't lend itself to realism and another is trying to different approaches that clash (realistic and....well....not realistic). Land tries to make his look as real as possible (hence the tracing) while showing people doing comic booky style action moves which aren't meant to be performed by people with a properly functioning spine. I like the Mary Jane stuff a lot more than the Greg Land stuff because it is more interesting to look at. You might wonder "how can someone stand like that?" but at least it comes down to the style of the artist, and sometimes artists work more for a specific style (maybe to emphasize atmosphere/mood/etc)over realism. One of my favourite examples would be Kelly Jones. He draws his Batman with a very square jaw, long batears and an extremely long fluidish cape. Does it look real? Not a chance. But it does set up the stories to have a darker more gothic atmosphere.
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Oct 17, 2011 22:14
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Internet Wizard posted:
Talking of Jae Lee, Andrea Sorrentino is the artist on I, Vampire and his art reminds me of Jae Lee (and I also find it beautiful.  (I, Vampire no. 1) He also has a website showing off her artwork over here. Some really beautiful stuff there too.
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Oct 20, 2011 19:39
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fritz posted:People say and said the same thing about Liefeld. The problem between someone like Jones and Liefeld is that Jones purposely contorts anatomy. Liefeld just draws badly because he is a lovely artist. There is no mood or atmosphere in Liefeld's drawings. edit: for example this:  This is such a great cover for conveying mood. The imposing Swamp Thing, the malicious Killer Croc. Batman crouching and looking rather out of his element. I really love Kelley Jones. Madkal fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Oct 24, 2011 |
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Oct 24, 2011 04:33
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Heresiarch posted:In the interest of rebooting the thread: What blew my mind is that he is the same guy who did Batman: Year One. Really versatile and a great storyteller.
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Oct 25, 2011 06:02
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Pacra posted:You don't even have to go back that far. My uncle was a para-Olympian back in the 70's. From the pictures I have seen, he used to be pretty ripped (upper body wise) but no-where near to that. Still, just because someone is in a wheelchair doesn't mean they cant have some muscle.
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Dec 2, 2011 18:48
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The face looks fine if you are going for the look of an 8 year old. The body though. There is so much wrong with that face on that body. Honestly, it's almost as if artist can no longer draw the female form without it having it be a certain way. Doesn't matter if it's an 8 year old or 98 year old, they must all have the body of a 20 year old swimsuit model!
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Dec 8, 2011 03:59
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jimcunningham posted:Worst arms and a RealDoll. Pat Chau or something. That looks like really terrible fan-art.
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Dec 13, 2011 18:01
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SexyBlindfold posted:drawing hands is really tough you guys!! I think that artist thinks drawing in general is hard.
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Dec 14, 2011 19:05
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Wildeyes posted:No one draws fairy poo poo like Ted Naifeh. My gripe is that they all have the same faces. Otherwise I think the layouts and the backgrounds look pretty cool.
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Dec 14, 2011 22:08
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Baron Bifford posted:Frank Miller's art seems to grow progressively worse over time. I just read Holy Terror, and it's a mess. It's very hard at times to figure out what is going on in many panels, because he uses no color, omits background detail and distorts characters. There are also problems with perspective and unnatural character motions. If you read his Dark Knight Strikes Again you will notice that as the book goes on his artwork gets a lot more....abstract.
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Dec 30, 2011 06:52
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I finished reading Wizard of Oz last night with Skottie Young and I find the art to be mindblowingly good. After I read a page I would go back to the top of the page and just look at the pictures. The style was cartoonish and charming, and created a great atmosphere in the comic. Each character design seems perfect (for me the lion was the best) and is something out a cartoon that would appeal to kids and adults alike.   
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Dec 31, 2011 19:20
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Posted this in the derailed thread but figured I could post it here. I am reading the Day of Futures Past trade and we are introduced to Kitty Pryde. The art is by Byrne I believe and while I don't have issues with his artwork, his drawings of Kitty make her look like she has a face made of putty. This page is the worst part: (X-Men: Day of Futures Past trade)
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Jan 11, 2012 21:57
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Mazed posted:I'm afraid not. Here's the full page: Talking about continuity and whatnot, in the third panel where she is talking out of her rear end (the word bubble is pointed there) Loki is at the same levelher legs. And then we see that she is a 19 foot tall giant. That is weird.
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Jan 13, 2012 22:45
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To fully appreciate Liefeld you just have to stare at the amazaningness that is this picture:
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Jan 15, 2012 21:15
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I almost forgot about this cover by Liefeld, which kind of reaches Dada-esque proportions of craziness. Take note of the floating head and limbs, the strained neck, the teeth, the stretchy crotch and bendy shield. 
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Jan 16, 2012 18:11
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Counter arguement. Good Kaare Andrews' art: 
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Jan 16, 2012 20:55
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Andrew's has a distinct style that he likes to experiment with. He did an arc in Ultimate X-Men (vol 1) where the character looked more anime like, and then there is his Astonishing X-Men stuff (which does sometimes come across as horrendous). He does like to change it up though so it's hard to pigeonhole him as a good or bad artist. That being said, I definitely prefer his cover work to his interiors.
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Jan 16, 2012 21:26
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Here are two Shatterstars. One is drawn by Liefeld and the other is from the latest X-Factor series. See if you can tell the difference.  
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Jan 18, 2012 03:27
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I can understand the criticism of Lee (people looking like models with costumes spray painted on etc) but for me Lee's work is the quintessential ideal of superhero comics. He draws gods in human form pretty much, and that is why I love his art work. It wouldn't work for something that isn't a capes book and that is fair enough. He is an artist that definitely knows what his strengths are and he draws towards them.
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Jan 21, 2012 07:37
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I recently finished reading the first arc of X-Force with art done by Crain. Now I think he is an okay artist, though his characters look a tad too stiff and more like mannequins than actual people. My main problem though is that all is work looks so dark.   I guess this could be blamed on the inker/colourist, but reading the first trade (the above images were just stuff I pulled off GIS and I couldn't find any from the first trade)some panels were really hard to stare at. I get that stuff is supposed to happen in shadows but when you have a character dressed in black standing in shadows doing some kind of action it is very hard to tell what is going on. Then stuff doesn't happen in shadows but it is still so dark that you can't really tell what is going on.
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Jan 24, 2012 23:05
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I've read Lost Girls and I agree that it's not worth it, I think it fails as both porn and something more serious. YMMV though. I saw the title Extreme Justice mentioned in a blog, and it was described as having the worst art ever. Naturally my curiousity was piqued so I went on GIS to look up some examples. This is what I found:  Blue Beetle is posed like Spiderman. Booster Gold is padded so he doesn't hurt himself I guess. Red headed woman can't decide what direction she is flying in, and Captain Atom...is that really Captain Atom rocking a Glam-Rock band hairstyle?  Blue Beetle's back doesn't look very stable and somewhere in time Booster Gold became X-O Manowars retarded doppleganger.
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Jan 27, 2012 23:11
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I am taking this to the DC thread because, well this is a thread about artwork and it is derailing into a DC - good or bad thread.
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Jan 29, 2012 20:08
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The creepy thing is that She-Hulk looks like a regular woman but with green skin. There is nothing there to indicate the "hulk" part of her name but the green skin.
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Feb 2, 2012 20:36
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Or is it Sputnik posted:You know what the shame is? I'm pretty sure that is Scott Kolins, who did the first half of Johns original Flash run. This is what it looks like when he inks himself. Didn't Kollins pencil that awfully penciled issue of Brave and the Bold featuring Nightwing and Hawkman?
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Feb 22, 2012 23:30
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The feet should have been a giveaway.
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Mar 1, 2012 23:23
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Heresiarch posted:Kelly Jones is actually a lot more capable than that, which makes it even more sad. Kelly Jones is one of my fave artists but his Azbats stuff was lacking. He did draw a great traditional Batman though. The reason for the discrepancy is that Jones is a lot better at drawing "grotesque" characters (ie Batman with very long ears and infinite cape) that goes more for mood and atmosphere. Unfortunately for something like Azbats this is harder to do as the costume is too "modern" and doesn't allow much for interpretations. 
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Mar 24, 2012 23:45
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DarkCrawler posted:Godzilla VS Astro Boy and the Iron Giant. Godzilla has already faced his toughest match in comic book form:  (art by Mike Barron. Godzilla Vs. Charles Barkley one shot)
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al-azad posted:That sounds expensive. DC might have to cancel a few books to pay for it. Nobody's reading Swamp Thing, Wonder Woman, or Animal Man, right? They could just Liefeld to write/draw/plot whatever everything. That can save money.
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