DarkCrawler posted:

Crappy art - Humberto Ramos:



Excellent art - Steve Epting:



That Greg Horn art is basically a war crime though.

Madkal posted:

Talking about good artists that have become crappy (Chaykin) what are peoples opinions about Kyle Baker?
I like his earlier stuff but his most recent stuff has been rather offputting.

Alhazred posted:

There's a Swedish artist called Hans Lindahl which I really like. I think that he's pretty great at drawing grotesque things but unlike Ryp he can also draw normal humans good too:

Quantify! posted:

There's good fanfiction, but working within the boundaries of fanfiction is setting yourself up to fail.

That's all I'll say on the matter for now cuz I know I'm not going to actually bring anyone around to my point of view. Post some art.

Kojiro posted:

If he does, he's doing a really good job of hiding it.

Heresiarch posted:

Accusing people who dislike Ramos as having a problem with stylization in general is kind of insulting.

DarkCrawler posted:

I don't think "You can tell what's going on" is a sign of good art or storytelling. Otherwise Greg Land is a good artist and a storyteller. But he isn't, neither is Humberto Ramos. Neither is myself drawing a stick figure on a paper punching another stick figure - you can tell what's going on, but it's not worth paying for in a major comic book.

bobkatt013 posted:

So yo are saying Kirby's art is bad?

bobkatt013 posted:

Just the way it is written makes it seem that he is saying that Kirby is as bad as Ramos.

Heresiarch posted:

That page conveys to me that there is a new superhero named Giraffeman. No words required.

SkellingTon Loc posted:

Goddamn, that's beautiful. I'm such a sucker for drawings with that springy Paul Pope-ish energy.

Lurdiak posted:

I'm saying it. Humberto Ramos is a demonstrably bad artist that draws badly and gets paid to draw badly and if you like his bad drawings you have bad art fundamentals and bad taste.

The main reason most people aren't saying anything is that there will always be retards that will incessantly defend lovely art with "THAT'S MY STYLE" and it's a tango we've all danced way too many times so at the first sign of people trying to write off lovely fundamentals as an artistic choice we just let out a very long and tired sigh and give up. Heresiarch is apparently more patient than the rest of us, or more stubborn.

Heresiarch posted:

No, I just plain forgot that this is argument never goes anywhere.

Lurdiak posted:

War embitters a man, JackDarko.

Dr. Hurt posted:

Is this from the Slaves of Mickey Eye? I really just want Seaguy Eternal to come out. Partially for more Cameron Stewart art.

Here's one of my favorite pages from Slaves of Mickey Eye #2. The sheer joy the jump conveys without even seeing Seaguy's face just makes it for me.

Heresiarch posted:

In the interest of rebooting the thread:

Darwyn Cooke - Parker: The Hunter



David Mazzucchelli - Asterios Polyp



Michael Zulli - Grendel: Red, White, and Black



Mike Huddleston - The Coffin

cyberpunksurvivor posted:

For best I'd have to go with Marcus To:


It might be more thanks to the colorist John Dell, but something about his proportions just feels right: statuesque is a good way of putting it.

For worst, Frank Miller.


I don't like his style when he draws people. His angles are harsh, his facial features are grotesque, and his aesthetics overall are very garish.

SkellingTon Loc posted:

drat. It's too bad Seth never got to work with Grant Morrison. That would have been amazing.

cyberpunksurvivor posted:

And I couldn't stand his art any more than I could in The Dark Knight Strikes Again. I used Returns to show that even at Miller's best I can't stand it.

In my defense, I'd like to present who I feel is a superior Noir artist: Tim Sale

My issue with Miller is that everyone looks positively grotesque; Sale, unlike Miller, has a sense of aesthetics. Femme Fatales look gorgeous, Two-Face looks ugly, the Joker looks like a twisted Cheshire Cat, and Gordon looks like he just stopped chain smoking about two weeks ago. With Miller, even Wonder Woman looks off to me.

My philosophy with comic art is that it must serve the story at all times. I don't want all comic book characters to look like supermodels, but at a bare minimum the art to match the tone and logic of the story. And even then, there are some artists that rub my aesthetics the wrong way.

dieFALKENATOR posted:

Is he? We interviewed Chris and he mentioned Quitely as a primary influence, and I can see particularly from a Western tradition Geof Darrow in his work also... actually if you combined the two, Fisher was about that. I love Chris Burnham, although (and I hate when folk say this about Quitely) he does do wonky faces sometimes.

servoret posted:

Why? Would you prefer the term "pornographer" instead?

servoret posted:

Nope. I don't think I've ever seen one offered for sale in America, unless one was hiding somewhere in the big stack of his porn comics that NBM published.

More Later posted:

Thanks for clearing it up


I had always been under the impression that pornographic = penetration is shown rather than suggested and there's very little plot, and erotic = no visible penetration and the plot is romance with explicit sex... Or maybe that's the distinction between porn and soft porn?

Romes128 posted:

I'm reading through All Star Superman, and while I don't have a problem with the art...





Tumor Neck Superman is distracting.

Vincent posted: