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I went back to GTA4 today to try and finish TLAD (so I could start into Gay Tony), and I was reminded of why I never really liked GTA4 in the first place: It's just so sluggish. Every movement I would make felt like it was delayed. Euphoria is amazing when it comes to all the NPCs, but it was just so much easier to control your character in the PS2 games. For example, I was behind cover in a gunfight when I decided to lob a pipe bomb at the enemy. For some reason (probably because I didn't aim first), I just dropped the pipebomb next to me on the ground. They have a fuse of five seconds which should have been plenty of time to run away. Instead, I pressed RB to unstick from cover, watched my guy do his "back away from cover" animation, then started into the slow-rear end walking animation before I could start running. By the time all that was done, the bomb had already killed me. There are some good thing about GTA4 though. Running from the cops is as fun as ever, and I don't mind the boat-like physics. The damage effects on the cars is really great, and the euphoria engine makes the pedestrians behave better than any other game. This game still impresses me technically when compared to recent games. I think Red Dead Redemption is the best game on this generation of consoles though, and I'm not even keen on the western setting. All the issues I had with the mechanics of GTA4 were fixed in RDR, so it gives me a lot of hope for GTAV. My preferred setting would be Vice City in the 80s again, but they've already done two 80s Vice City games, so I won't get my hopes up. Speaking of which, I need to play Vice City Stories some time.
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Himuro posted:that's exactly his point though: they're sluggish. It takes forever to do anything in that game. That's true, but I wasn't really complaining about the car physics. My exact quote was "I don't mind the boat-like physics", which I said because that was a complaint a lot of people had when the game was released. To me, driving is as fun as it's ever been in GTA, and the car handling of the previous games would seem out of place in GTA4 anyway. In the end, it's the on-foot action that just didn't do it for me. I played GTA3/VC/SA a TON in their days, but I found myself just wanting to get the storyline of GTA4 over so I could go on to other games.
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Apr 17, 2011 07:37
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SplitSoul posted:And the patch I mentioned made the driving pretty much exactly like the earlier games. Woah, seriously? Did they patch the 360/PS3 version as well?
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Apr 19, 2011 04:18
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Crappy Jack posted:As I recall, the Love thing just kinda ends because originally you were supposed to fly a plane into his tower. I thought those were side quests for some guy named Darkel (or so was the rumor).
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Apr 21, 2011 01:15
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Starhawk64 posted:GTA3 was a fun game, but my main problem with it was the fact that when you finish almost all of the missions, you end up pissing off almost every gang and can't go anywhere without getting shot at. Oh god, the Leone mafia with their shotguns are the worst. Drive too close to two of them on the street and your car will blow up instantly.
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Apr 21, 2011 05:30
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Timeless Appeal posted:Red Dead Redemption actually had a pretty graphic sex scene that ended with full frontal nudity. I don't think much of an issue was made over it. The media might just be over video game controversies. Also, was it even possible to see the Hot Coffee scene on the PS2?
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Apr 22, 2011 01:36
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I stopped playing LCS on the mission where you had to remotely drive a car via bumper-cam and delayed controls. How far into the story was I? I've been thinking of restarting it thanks to this thread (or maybe just buying VCS and playing that).
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Apr 22, 2011 05:02
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ElwoodCuse posted:Was listening to Wave 103 today and the DJ lead-in to I Ran So Far Away is clearly meant to be for Video Killed The Radio Star, which is on an entirely other station for some reason. Wow, I can't believe I never noticed that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JaS4_1bm0I&feature=player_detailpage#t=494s
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Apr 27, 2011 01:24
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Himuro posted:Only times I go and kill pedestrians is if I'm pissed and fail a taxi mission when I'm about to complete it or fail a mission for the 10th time.
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Apr 29, 2011 03:10
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If anyone wants to buy the two episodes, keep in mind that it's cheaper to buy them both on disc now than it is to buy them digitally. http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Theft-Auto-Episodes-Xbox-360/dp/B002DC8GMM/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1304798859&sr=8-13
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May 7, 2011 21:09
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Underflow posted:Does anyone know how the Xbox controls for III/VC/SA compare to the PC's? I'm tempted to get them again for the Xbox, but after playing IV alot I'm not sure if I can go back to those clunky PC controls. I mean, do you steer and accelerate smoothly with the LS instead of just L-R and yes-no? I don't know how the xbox controls are mapped, but the PS2 versions have the acceleration on the X button. All the buttons on the dualshock 2 are analog so you get analog acceleration. My guess is that acceleration is mapped to A on the xbox, not the analog stick, so you wouldn't have analog acceleration. I'm not speaking from experience though. I'm sure someone with the xbox versions can verify.
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May 28, 2011 16:22
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FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:Do you know if the normal version has the commentary too? I don't really wanna download 4gb if I don't have to The normal quality of the Vice City run had commentary. I would bet that would too.
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May 29, 2011 01:01
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Zedd posted:Doesn't Microsoft have a rule you can't have a mandatory installation? That hosed over ME2 somewhat.
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Aug 12, 2011 20:59
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Cliff Racer posted:Out of curiosity, was the PS2 version of VC done with auto-aim or what? I thought that it worked quite wello on the PC. Well, except for the shotgun which was slow and a bit useless. All the PS2 games had auto-aim. I know in GTA3 you COULDN'T free aim even if you wanted to (I don't remember how the other two (4?) PS2 games handled that though)
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Rockstar is honoring the tenth anniversary of GTA3 by releasing it on iOS and Android. They're also making a pretty badass Claude action figure for the low low price of $150: http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/19201/announcing-grand-theft-auto-iii-10th-anniversary-edition-for-sel.html I was surprised to realize it's already been ten years since GTA3. It still is the only game that's ever blown me away when I first played it. I didn't have a PS2 at the time, so my first time playing it was at a friend's place. I remember thinking "You can just get in ANY car?!" The concept of a sandbox game was foreign to me, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever that you could just do whatever you wanted. I bought it as soon as it was released on PC and even though it ran like garbage on my family's computer, I put a ton of hours into it. edit: Announce GTAV already, rockstar. Thanks. wa27 fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 15, 2011 |
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Himuro posted:GTA3 is still my favorite GTA so to see Rockstar give it 10 year anniversary treatment, and for loving ios/android only makes me want to cry. For what it's worth, Rockstar posted this comment on the article in response to some people with the same complaint: quote:@LightPhoenixNL @johnc7311 @gytis1232 @Texel17 In case you missed when we stated it before, we do plan to bring Grand Theft Auto III to additional devices, the ones in the article are all we're able to confirm at this time, no new info to pass along right now
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Oct 15, 2011 00:53
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Cage posted:I prefer owning retail DVDs for GTA4 over having the episodes on steam. Still faster than downloading 16GB. You don't have to download a game every time you play it, you know.
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Oct 21, 2011 19:44
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csidle posted:No, the marketing for GTA 4 was intensely focused over 13 months. First trailer was released March 2007, the game was released April 2008.
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Oct 25, 2011 15:13
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Polo-Rican posted:If they didn't add facial motion capture, however, what else could they add to the engine? In terms of scenery and detail, GTA4 is already pushing the current gen consoles to their absolute limit. I'm not getting my hopes up for an early release of GTAV. Rockstar already has Max Payne coming out in March.
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Oct 25, 2011 17:02
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Iacen posted:I worked for a spell at GAME. I had customers coming in and asking for GTA Ih Vee.  If I was asking for it in a store I would say the whole title, but still...
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Oct 25, 2011 21:46
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SaviourX posted:I really want a Santos in the '80s, but all the numbered GTAs are contemporary, so. GTA2 was in the future, wasn't it? edit: Wikipedia says maybe... edit2: Just checked my manual and it says "three weeks into the future", so I guess it is contemporary. wa27 fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 26, 2011 |
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Oct 26, 2011 00:05
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As much as I disliked his talk show in GTA4, I do hope Lazlow returns to the air as a DJ or talk host again in GTAV. Chatterbox was the best, and he was decent in Vice City as well.
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Oct 26, 2011 21:15
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Himuro posted:Seriously. Give me a universal garage that saves every car I've ever put in that garage, no matter what safehouse. If a car is destroyed, give me a fee so I can return the car back to driving condition and it'll reset inside my garage. Steal poo poo, Rockstar. There was a car-spawning garage in GTA3, so it's not like there isn't precedent. Though it would be weird to see that in a post-GTA4 game. They would probably do something like "call Johnny the CAR GUY to have him drive a certain car to you!" because it would be more "realistic". Erebus posted:You're probably thinking of this, though it doesn't have GTA4 in it. 4 would be between 3 and SA. wa27 fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Oct 27, 2011 |
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Oct 27, 2011 17:24
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Himuro posted:I guess I'm weird because I'd rather just do a quick trip to ammunation and stock up than reload, haha. In the PS2 games, it was often faster to just reload and drive from your safehouse to the mission than it was to drive from the hospital. It was even worse because you would lose your weapons and some money. It was really just a matter of saving time for me. Vice City tried to solve it with that taxi that would take you back to the mission, but I doubt many people used it. Did they even include that in San Andreas? GTA4 solved all that though by letting you keep your weapons and restart a mission instantly.
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Oct 29, 2011 03:35
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SeanBeansShako posted:I'm amazed at how fast the vehicle damage system works in SA compared to IV, you aren't careful then in less than three hits and your car is a twisted half written off piece of junk.
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Oct 29, 2011 22:04
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Uncle Lina posted:So, anyone know a program i can use to add audio onto my rendered videos without losing picture quality? Something like virtualdub could do that. I'd recommend avidemux: http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ It's really easy to replace the audio and then just output it without re-encoding the video. If you want to edit the existing audio, you'll have to output that first and then edit it with some other program.
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MrChupon posted:Am I the only person who just grabs the first car in sight, regardless of model, drives it until it explodes, then takes the next nearest car? I never understood the whole parking garages and car modding stuff -- if I actually put money into the car, I couldn't fly it off a bridge in a beeline for the next objective! Well yeah, you gotta keep the good cars in your garage and never drive them! Did anyone else make it a goal to collect the cars with weird properties in GTA3? Most of them involved destroying a car during a mission/race and then pushing it back to your garage to un-destroy it and unlock the doors. http://www.gtawh.com/gta3.php?page=bpcars Of course, in Vice City there is that one mission where you can just go around a corner and grab Ken Rosenburg's invincible Manana (or whatever it was) after it was over.
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Oct 31, 2011 04:51
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Terraplane posted:Has anybody downloaded GTA:SA from Xbox Live? I was wondering if they upped the draw distance for the 360 or if it'll be identical to the old Xbox version. SA is the only GTA I never had much of a chance to play and I'm kinda getting the urge. I'm not 100% sure, but I think all the downloadable Xbox Originals are just straight-up images of the original xbox discs. So you might be better finding the disc version for half the cost.
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Nov 1, 2011 17:18
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thebardyspoon posted:You can get them on Amazon for $16 for both on disc, it's called "Episodes from Liberty City". I like that Rockstar didn't skimp on what's just a collection of two DLCs. The disc version includes a new foldout poster/map with all the new locations on it. There's also three additional radio stations on it (including Vice City FM, the best station).
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Nov 2, 2011 00:16
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I thought the facial animation in GTA4 was just fine. And from what we saw in LA Noire, there is a weird disconnect when you have a super realistic face and a traditionally animated body. It was alright in LA Noire because all the characters were mostly sitting still when talking, but GTA characters are always flailing around with all sorts of hand gestures and stuff. I'm sure they can adapt the tech so that it looks decent in a GTA game, but it just seems unnecessary.
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MissSheGrrl posted:Have you played GTA4 recently? They were great at the time but even now I think they feel quite static and stiff.
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Nov 2, 2011 15:41
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Dan Hollis posted:Well, obviously for the ratings reason mentioned above. I just don't understand it. I love sex and would get a real kick from watching my guy nail a hooker before driving her off a cliff. I mean you can't drive them off a cliff right after though because they get out of the car first.
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Nov 2, 2011 20:57
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Everyone's forgetting the one thing San Andreas had that should have been in GTA4: Local multiplayer. Seriously, it was terribly implemented and was surely something Rockstar added at the last minute, but it was really fun. At the time, I just remember thinking "Man, the multiplayer in this is pretty crappy, but I'm sure they'll refine it in the next GTA and it will be the best thing ever!" 
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Nov 3, 2011 00:15
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ChuckDHead posted:It did have local multiplayer, at least on the PS2. In-game you'd find little icons like the Rampage skull icon, but double. Accessing that meant that player 2 could join in as some random woman for a 2-player local killing spree. I was disappointed when GTA4 didn't have any sort of local coop like that, though I totally understand why they did it, and I'll probably just have to accept San Andreas as the only one that will ever have local play. Can GTA4 do system-link?
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Coolodile posted:Games > Grand Theft Auto V: "After 5 years on the east coast it was time to go home."
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MZ posted:Probably bullshit, and to be fair, anyone could have guessed/made that info up. But then again, who knows? Well, he never actually claimed to be a journalist, just someone who worked for the magazine. He also said that he never got to see the game, all that info was just relayed from a coworker. The weirdly specific stuff he talked about (like shooting a trail of leaking gasoline) makes it a bit more believable. Ah who am I kidding, There's a 99% chance that it was all made up. I love pre-GTA speculation! I really do hope that Rockstar is already showing this game to the media already, though. We still have no idea how close this is to completion.
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Nov 5, 2011 03:47
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Cojawfee posted:The fuel system in Mafia served one purpose, people could shoot your gas tank, which would then drain. You'd either have to keep filling up or get a new car. I don't mind this idea. It's way better than the GTA3-era games where a stray bullet hitting you gas tank would cause you to instantly blow up and die. Having to stop and fill up would be dumb, but I could see them putting it in as another way to incapacitate a car.
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Nov 5, 2011 16:40
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ChuckDHead posted:Really? People complained about the graphics? GTA4 had a lot of issues, but at the right time of day, it looked incredible. I just wish there was a way to freeze the clock to during the daylight/early evening hours. The problem was that Rockstar did their standard GTA marketing and didn't post (or allow anyone to post) gameplay footage before release. So all people had to go on was the three trailers and a bunch of screenshots. And GTA4... looked a lot better in motion than it did in still frames. There were big arguments about how it looked like crap in official screenshots like this one:  Notice the "watercolor" filter. Once it came out I think a lot of people changed their opinions. Driving around at night when it's raining blew me away the first time.
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Joda posted:Yeah nothing like driving around in a literally black and white environment save for a few traffic lights around. Really? I thought the weather effects in that game were some of the best I'd seen at the time (then Rockstar outdid themselves with Red Dead).
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Joda posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYGifDDDzrI
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