MeinGott posted:

Maybe you are not a real man and can't do the codes in less than 1 second

Seriously entering codes in a button sequence was 100X better than the dumb phone menu. So much more reliable and faster.

Cojawfee posted:

So you want a game that comes on 9 DVDs?

Cojawfee posted:

Look how big LA is in LA Noire, look at all the detail in it. That game came on three DVDs. And you have to put each DVD in to play each section even if you install. You're asking for too much in one game with the level of detail you're expecting.

Cliff Racer posted:

Which is exactly what I was saying? That an SA type game (with multiple cities and all) would be impossible to do because they wouldn't be able to extend the detailing done in IV out to a big enough size due to memory limitations.

Underflow posted:

Bondi uses Havoc, no?

As for Xbox drives, can anyone recommend the largest possible non-MS hdd (250Gb I think) that the Xbox will take without going tits up? I asked before and looked around a lot, but didn't see conclusive answers.

drivebyhobo posted:

Well they could copy what Id did with RAGE and just not bother with trying to make it enjoyable to play on non hard drive systems.

@Trandorian
GTA III : 1GB
GTA SA : 4.2GB
GTA IV : 16GB

if it grew at the same rate for a statified gta V the xbox would have some serious problems with storage.

frumpsnake posted:

Cojawfee posted:

I don't like it. The water and reflections clash with the graphics of Vice City and make them look even more dated. And the floppy physics of GTAIV cars doesn't fit the style of GTAIII games.

K8.0 posted:

Have you ever tried driving a car in first person in GTA4? The car physics are loving horrible. I like that there's more detail to the physics, but everything about GTA4's car handling is loving garbage.

webmeister posted:

The environment in San Andreas was ridiculously juvenile. Just off the top of my head, there's:
- Jim's Sticky Ring Donuts
- Brown Streak Railroad
- Gruppe Sechs company security cars
- Dildo in police station showers
- Giant cock rock in the desert
- Juank Airlines
- The Vank Hoff Hotel in San Fierro
- Las Venturas casinos like Come-A-Lot, The Camel's Toe, and Starfish Casino
- Area 69
- The Lil Probe Inn

Sure, the story isn't juvenile and the radio stations are a bit more subtle, but when the entire environment is like this it's hard to argue the game isn't juvenile. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

davebo posted:

Yeah I don't want them to add too much of an RPG feel to GTA, but I wouldn't mind if they stuck in some useless expensive post-endgame goals to shoot for. There's lots of fun to be had after the story missions just screwing around, but sometimes it's nice to have something to show for it too. Like more apartments to buy or a huge garage you can fill up and visit anytime. As it is I just make sure all the top supercars get parked at the existing apartments, but that's not a whole lot.

KFCB posted:

Any mission that required you to go somewhere else to trigger the actual event was just awful if you had to restart. I can dig being loose on check points and they at least are throwing you a bone with the cellphone restart but poo poo... there is no reason for me to have to go pick up the Comet again after losing the race with Brucie or drive with Packie back to the pier and climb up to the roof after the first time.

KFCB posted:

I didn't forget about, it's just a poor workaround to the much more sensible option of restarting you at a meaningful part of the mission.

Cojawfee posted:

Dying = Lose some money
Arrested = Lose some money, lose all weapons.

moms pubis posted:

The hood camera loving sucks. I don't know why they put that in and not a proper cockpit view. They went to all that trouble to model a bunch of different dashboards that you practically never see.

Snowman_McK posted:

The mechanics were fine. The problem is what they did with them: very very little. Every mission (or at least a huge majority) boiled down to "go to a brown place, shoot some forgettable people, drive away in a sedan."
The main selling point of Sandbox games is variety. In Just Cause 2, I can steal fighter plane, strafe a harbour for half an hour, then steal a sports car and hit ramps and jumps. In the same game. For a game series that was initially interesting because of the idea of free agency, it's a very limited, scripted game. You shouldn't experience almost everything it has to offer in two hours.

Snowman_McK posted:

Aside from shooting pedestrians and getting in gunfights with the cops, what is there to do? I actually got (according to the completion thingy) about 65 % of the way through. Driving isn't partucularly fun (though I can appreciate the technical accomplishment that is the game's physics) There's one armed helicopter in the game, a small selection fairly pedestrian weapons. As I said, the game packs a pretty serious wow factor initially, and it's fun being a dick.

To whit, Saints Row 2 does as well. I spent about an hour running down the street, kicking people in the crotch, tasering them, throwing fire hydrants at people and people at traffic. However, two days later, having progressed through a few of the missions, I had also done drivebys, streaking, committed vast amounts of property damage, used helicopters and a bunch of other things. I also had no trouble acquiring fast cars.

Two days later in GTA 4, I was still doing the missions because, aside from getting in gunfights with the cops (which was employing the exact same mechanics as the missions) there really wasn't much to do. Also, they never seemed to end and I had no idea which ones were the important ones, forcing me to do them all.

Now, you can say "well, the missions are only a part of it" and you're right. The problem with that is, the game puts most of the content under lock and key until you do them. Want a better weapon? Do the missions. Want to explore the other two thirds of the game map? Do the missions. Want money to spend on better weapons? Do the missions. As such, I'm kind of forced to comment on the missions since they are a necessary part of unlocking the fun. As I said, for a sandbox game, it puts a lot of limitations on you and forces you to do a lot of it.

By comparison, Saints Row 2 (I use that comparison a lot since, to me, it's an almost perfect sandbox game) lets you access most of the game on your own terms. You do have to do some side missions and activities to progress, but there's enough variety on them, and no order to them. For instance, escort is kind of hard and not engineered particularly well. So I didn't do it. I did activities I did enjoy.

Meanwhile, GTA 4 had me stuck listening to characters I hated, driving them somewhere so I could buy some bullets for my pistol and a new grey jumper. Even in the vastly improved Ballad of Gay Tony, there was still Mori, who may be the most annoying character in any form of fiction ever.

Snowman_McK posted:

so in your universe all weapons and the entire map were available straight away? I specify that because it's kind of emblematic of my problem with GTA 4. San Andreas kept plenty under lock and key. But it was stuff like planes, easily accessed helicopters, flamethrowers, jetpacks, missions involving base jumping. There was a clear sense of progression and upgrading. In the later parts of GTA 4 you unlock...missions from a homeless guy? a slightly better assault rifle?

Yeticopter posted:

Vehicular damage wasn't too different. If you get in a 100+ mph head-on collision that car sure as poo poo shouldn't be able to drive.

Snowman_McK posted:

GTA 3 had A. A lot more to do

Himuro posted:

Irrelevant.

GTA3 had numerous assassination missions, every 10 hidden packages you found you unlocked something at your hideout, you had paramedics, vigilante, taxi cab, and firetruck missions all with their own distinct rewards, unlockables such as bullet proof and fire proof vehicles could be obtained, random odd jobs like rc cars, rampages and more.

GTA3 has far more content and variety than GTAIV has to offer.

Your move.

Himuro posted:

How does the taxi service beat taxi missions? I thought the taxi service was tedious because you have such huge ground to cover and so few fares, that it's over before it ever becomes remotely a challenge.

moms pubis posted:

Set the resolution to 1920x1080 and widescreen to "on?" That's all I had to do.

Cliff Racer posted:

Have fun playing GTA with no buttons.

Cage posted:

I mod my game occasionally but I also still play online almost every day and sometimes I screw something up.

ElwoodCuse posted:

Is playing GTA3/VC better on an Xbox 360 (or even the OG Xbox) or on a PC with a fake on-board video card? That's all my desktop has and I haven't played a game on it ever except the Steam version of Deus Ex.

LAWLandMine posted:

GTA really has never been "serious" other than GTA 4. I really like when they fill that space of we have a serious story and setting filled with absolutely insane and over the top characters. San Andreas is pretty much ideal.

That Awful Nick posted:

To help get amped up for this game, should I finally give Chinatown Wars for the DS a try? I never got around to it, but lately I've been itching to dust off my old DS Lite. I heard it got lots of critical acclaim, but never actually heard what normal consumers thought of it. Was it a GTA3 "have fun, do a thing!" style game or more of a GTAIV "serious story, realistic missions" affair.

moms pubis posted:

I loved the cop evasion system in CW. It's the only game in the series that actually rewards engaging the cops rather than just running away from them, and if they refined that system and included it in V it would make me very happy indeed.

Iacen posted:

Yeah, I have a couple of five pound notes, and there's no "V" I can see. Sounds like bogus stuff.

the Bunt posted:

I would poo poo my pants if it turns out to be an extended Los Santos. That first section of San Andreas is by far the most memorable part of the series for me.

err posted:

I hope it's just not only LA. SA had a pretty big country-side and a variety of landscapes and it was neat driving through all the podunk towns, seeing farms/hills/mountains etc. Not sure if that could be supported with the current engine but I just hope GTA5 isn't just city-based.

ElwoodCuse posted:

Probably not at all except for a throwaway gag like they did in the past with Driver or True Crime. Saints Row 2 was lots of fun and did sell well but come on, nothing can compete with Grand Theft Auto for copies sold, money made, and pop culture buzz except for stuff like Call of Duty or Halo or Madden.

drkhrs2020 posted:

I hear that from everyone who played it, but for some reason GTA London is no longer sold anywhere. Licensing rights maybe?

Sir Xiphos posted:

If the trailer reveals a rebooted Los Santos deal I won't even be slightly mad. Rockstar can do a shitload with LA county.

simosimo posted:

GTA4's radio was pretty bad, and largely forgettable. I think they wanted it to be like GTA3's where nothing was licensed (Save for the scarface stuff)......but they forgot the quality.

There was one song on GTA4 though.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GwhQsLzZus

Himuro posted:

I can't remember any of SA's commercials

Joda posted:

Regarding the radio talk; I used to listen to Chatterbox in III all the time. I loving loved it and ended up knowing p much every interview and commercial on that channel by heart. I liked the talk show radio channels in the other games, but none of them really reached the same level in my mind.

Zedd posted:

VC,SA, LCS and VCC came in between though.

Himuro posted:

Seriously. Give me a universal garage that saves every car I've ever put in that garage, no matter what safehouse. If a car is destroyed, give me a fee so I can return the car back to driving condition and it'll reset inside my garage. Steal poo poo, Rockstar.