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mewse posted:Boxing Urgh there's a new boxing thread in the pagoda if you want to update the thing in the OP sorry. edited my post
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X-post from old thread. I've got a new tattoo that's 4 days old, Can I roll tonight?
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May 5, 2011 10:10
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Pres posted:X-post from old thread. Would be better not to, but if it's on your arm and exposed the least you should do is cover it up. I cut the bottom off a sock and put it over mine when it was fresh.
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May 5, 2011 10:14
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niethan posted:Would be better not to, but if it's on your arm and exposed the least you should do is cover it up. I cut the bottom off a sock and put it over mine when it was fresh. Okay cool, It's doing that horrible peeling bit now, I'll get some tubing bandage and put that over and not spar. On another note, Chico Mendez has just taken over my Gym and I've got a 4 hour Seminar with him and 4 other black belts in Cheltenham for £10. Bargin
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May 5, 2011 10:18
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I wouldn't roll for atleast 10 days or more with a new tattoo. Especially not in a gi.
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May 5, 2011 11:45
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Paul Pot posted:myth, i've never seen a boxer pull off as many superman punches as gsp  Notable good mma boxer Georges St. Pierre. Most people don't know poo poo about boxing.
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May 5, 2011 12:54
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To be fair, at that point GSP had no depth of vision. Also, most people might not know poo poo about boxing  But most boxers don't know poo poo (ps: I'm faketrolling don't be mad)
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May 5, 2011 14:40
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Smegmatron posted:That owns hard but BJJ newbies reading A/T probably aren't the best group to be encouraging into flying armbars. If we're going to do that, I'd put in a gif of Garza's flying triangle at UFC 129. Can you repost it outside quotes? I can't C/P the old one without losing the pictures and url links because I cannot quote a quote (or just tell me how to do that). Also look again Sucka TKD is in the OP as an asterisk under practical/competitive styles.
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May 5, 2011 15:28
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Bohemian Nights posted:To be fair, at that point GSP had no depth of vision. Well especially if you have no depth perception throwing straight punches seems like a good idea
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May 5, 2011 15:31
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Xguard86 posted:Can you repost it outside quotes? I can't C/P the old one without losing the pictures and url links because I cannot quote a quote (or just tell me how to do that). Quotes are gone on the post in the old thread. Also added the Beginning BJJ link to it.
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May 5, 2011 16:09
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What do you all think about this TKD place? It's close to my house and I was thinking about switching my son there. http://www.uma-musado.com/?q=node/1
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May 5, 2011 16:10
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Here's a Sambo write-up, shamelessly copied and pasted (and edited) from my school's website:quote:An acronym for “SAMozashchita Bez Oruzhiya” or “Self-defense without weapons”, Sambo is a form of sport, self-defense, and combat established in the former Soviet Union during the early twentieth century. Under the leadership of Sambo’s forefathers V.S. Oshchepkov, V.A. Spiridinov, and A. A. Kharlampiev, indigenous fighting styles from regions including Japan, China, Mongolia, India, Africa, Europe, North America, Caucasus, and Russia were studied and blended into what is now known as Sambo. After generations of civilian and military refinement, Sambo has evolved into an extremely formidable fighting art with principles applicable to martial artists of any style. Sambo’s arsenal includes, but is not limited to, strikes, joint locks, chokes, throws, ground fighting, and weapons. Like all fighting systems, Sambo continues to grow and evolve in both its sport and combat variants. Sambo practiced as a sport comes in several different flavors. Sport sambo in Russia is most similar to Judo, with an emphasis on throws and pins, and very limited time on the ground to finish submissions. There is also "combat sambo" the sport -- distinct from combat sambo, which is essentially military combatives meant for practical self-defense -- which is like a hybrid of regular sport sambo and mixed martial arts, where there is still scoring from takedowns and pins, but with the addition of punches, kicks, and knees. In the US, many schools (particularly members of the American Sambo Association) compete in "freestyle sambo" which is a modified ruleset for sport sambo in which more emphasis is placed on the grappling aspect of sambo, and there is more time spent on the ground after a takedown. An important distinction between sambo and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is that sambo generally spends more time learning and practicing leglocks and less time on the guard, due to the pinning rules and limited grappling time (conversely, because you can't reap the leg during leg control in BJJ and because beginners usually don't learn leglocks at all, leglocks get less attention). This isn't to say that any given sambo/BJJ practitioner or school won't be great at one or the other, though. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 18:14 on May 5, 2011 |
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May 5, 2011 17:30
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ZoneManagement posted:What do you all think about this TKD place? It's close to my house and I was thinking about switching my son there. Wow, no. Aside from the fact that they don't seem to be WTF or ITF affiliated, stuff like this (in the rules section) is a big red flag: quote:Do not participate in activities held by a school or club other than Universal Martial Arts (or their affiliates) without permission from the Teachers/instructors. Also, a lot of their accomplishments on the "about us" page are either completely vague/unsubstantiated ("10 time state champion and 5-time national champion") or seem like bullshit ("USMAA Millenium Hall of Fame" -- googling this brings up that school's website as the first hit, and the USMAA site is circa 1997 geocities quality and does not mention the instructor in the Hall of Fame section). Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 5, 2011 |
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May 5, 2011 17:36
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Yea... some of the items in that rules section is pretty sketchy. It looks like they're really into brick breaking and stuff so I guess if you want your kid to be an accomplished breaker of sticks and bricks instead of maybe a gay pyjama wearing man hugger thats cool. Judo for kids is usually pretty cheap. Kids usually love that poo poo cause they mostly just do like break-falls and fun stuff like that at first..
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May 5, 2011 17:43
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KidDynamite posted:
I want to point out to MMA newbies that that is not how GSP usually strikes, and I have no idea why he downgraded his own game like that. He was windmilling before he got the eye injury.
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May 5, 2011 17:51
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kimbo305 posted:I want to point out to MMA newbies that that is not how GSP usually strikes, and I have no idea why he downgraded his own game like that. He was windmilling before he got the eye injury. yeah I had the same opinion watching the fight. He kept swinging for the fences like a maniac instead of using his usual approach. I think he knew shields wasn't any good standing up and watching videos they thought he could catch him with a big overhand somehow. Seemed very weird to me and it wasn't all that successful. All his good hits were straight punches and supermans.
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May 5, 2011 17:58
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KidDynamite posted:
it's interesting that you didn't debate the effectiveness of superman punches in boxing matches freddy roach is a genius
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May 5, 2011 18:05
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Xguard86 posted:Also look again Sucka TKD is in the OP as an asterisk under practical/competitive styles. that's some shameful poo poo
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May 5, 2011 18:06
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Paul Pot posted:it's interesting that you didn't debate the effectiveness of superman punches in boxing matches I don't think superman punches are effective in boxing because a boxer will know you're not going to kick them so there's no fake out. I sparred with an MMA guy MMA rules to takedowns and he tried a superman punch and I just slipped it because I was still in boxing mode. It definitely works in MMA though.
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May 5, 2011 18:51
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kimbo305 posted:I want to point out to MMA newbies that that is not how GSP usually strikes, and I have no idea why he downgraded his own game like that. He was windmilling before he got the eye injury. I feel like it was a combination of having no fear of Jake's stand up and trying to *hopefully* KO him in his native land, in front of the biggest crowd he'll ever fight in front of.
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May 5, 2011 18:56
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fawker posted:I feel like it was a combination of having no fear of Jake's stand up and trying to *hopefully* KO him in his native land, in front of the biggest crowd he'll ever fight in front of. I think it was just Georges being a dumb. Seriously they guy pays Freddie Roach a lot of money to train him and I'm pretty sure Freddie would have spit in his face if he came back to his corner after throwing those rights. Ricardo Mayorga throws better punches than that. MAYORGA!!!
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May 5, 2011 19:11
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KidDynamite posted:I don't think superman punches are effective in boxing because a boxer will know you're not going to kick them so there's no fake out. sounds like an excuse
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May 5, 2011 19:24
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Paul Pot posted:sounds like an excuse Speaking of Mayorga, I would probably go to check if he feinted a kick if I was boxing sparring him.
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May 5, 2011 19:29
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I have a friend (not really a friend, but someone I know) who is convinced that Aikido is the be all and end all in a fight. I have tried showing him MMA/UFC and what not but he has all this bull poo poo about why it doesn't count. Is there a right up any where on how rubbish Aikido really is in the physical combat sense? I know bullshido used to have these great Your Martial Art sucks videos but I can't find an Aikido one.
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May 5, 2011 19:50
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Have a friendly spar and punch him in the face?
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May 5, 2011 20:19
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KidDynamite posted:Have a friendly spar and punch him in the face? That. Just ask him for a friendly fight. Throw some punches to show him that he can't catch them, then hug him, bring him to the ground and armbar him. But mostly he won't change his mind.
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May 5, 2011 20:24
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I've been interested in martial arts for years but with my leg problem and overall lack of fitness I've avoided it. Since the fall of 2009 I've been doing basic weight training and then in 2010 I started running as well. There's a Krav Maga place nearby but I still suspect I'm not ready considering how intense their warmups are. They offer an early morning heavy bag/kettle bell class and I was wondering if that might be a good way for me to try and get to a state where I can explore their self defense classes without embarrassing myself.
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May 5, 2011 20:33
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Just go. Why would you have to get in shape to get in shape? It makes no sense. You go do Krav and you're body will develop what you need to excel at it. There no other way around it. Sure you may suck some wind or puke but there's no point in delaying you're training.
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May 5, 2011 20:42
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Dick Trauma posted:I've been interested in martial arts for years but with my leg problem and overall lack of fitness I've avoided it. Since the fall of 2009 I've been doing basic weight training and then in 2010 I started running as well. There's a Krav Maga place nearby but I still suspect I'm not ready considering how intense their warmups are. Just go to a class and do what you can. No one will think any less of you for it. Don't go to the point where you puke, but just try. The body types there run from obese to loving unbelievable. There have been some large folk that start out unable to do poo poo and I've watched them slim down to become loving monsters. There's a cop who started out 300+ pounds who slimmed down to 220 and I can't even hold for the dude, his punches knock you off your feet. Edit: Are you in LA? G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 5, 2011 |
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May 5, 2011 20:54
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willie_dee posted:I have a friend (not really a friend, but someone I know) who is convinced that Aikido is the be all and end all in a fight. I have tried showing him MMA/UFC and what not but he has all this bull poo poo about why it doesn't count. Is there a right up any where on how rubbish Aikido really is in the physical combat sense? I know bullshido used to have these great Your Martial Art sucks videos but I can't find an Aikido one. These people are usually so stuck in their own delusion that you can't really do anything for them, just piss each other off. Ironically, I take a page from the Aikido playbook and just gently parry the issue. Even if you beat him up, the standard line is: "well aikido has a steep learning curve but once I "get it" in 10 years, you won't be able to touch me". Which, if you apply any logical thought, is insane. There is no other skill on earth where you mystically jump from terrible to mastery, windmills do not work that way. Still, that is what he will claim. Sorry if I am making GBS threads on any aikidoka, it's not a bad MA but many of the people involved in it are awful or abrasively delusional. Also, Sambo writeup added, thanks!
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willie_dee posted:I have a friend (not really a friend, but someone I know) who is convinced that Aikido is the be all and end all in a fight. I have tried showing him MMA/UFC and what not but he has all this bull poo poo about why it doesn't count. Is there a right up any where on how rubbish Aikido really is in the physical combat sense? I know bullshido used to have these great Your Martial Art sucks videos but I can't find an Aikido one. Learn something useful and kick his rear end I guess? There's really no way to make idiots stop being idiots.
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May 5, 2011 21:13
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Dick Trauma posted:I've been interested in martial arts for years but with my leg problem and overall lack of fitness I've avoided it. Since the fall of 2009 I've been doing basic weight training and then in 2010 I started running as well. There's a Krav Maga place nearby but I still suspect I'm not ready considering how intense their warmups are. I was gonna say you should talk to them because my boxing gym accommodates every level of fitness, but reading the other replies I'm just gonna add my "just go". Check it out at least.
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May 5, 2011 21:18
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CaptainScraps posted:Just go to a class and do what you can. No one will think any less of you for it. Don't go to the point where you puke, but just try. The body types there run from obese to loving unbelievable. I'm in L.A. I'm looking at the Krav Maga place on Olympic near the 405. I feel like I'm at the point where I could really benefit from it. I didn't see any boxing places in the area, which I'm also interested in.
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May 5, 2011 21:22
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Xguard86 posted:These people are usually so stuck in their own delusion that you can't really do anything for them, just piss each other off. Ironically, I take a page from the Aikido playbook and just gently parry the issue. I'm an aikidoka and I agree with you. I've heard the learning curve argument and the "our moves are too dangerous to spar" argument plenty of times and I don't buy it (fortunately not from the people I practice with, though). It seems especially goofy to claim that about aikido, which is more an art about not fighting. One of its main focuses is to use awareness and deflection to diffuse violent situations or keep them from happening in the first place. I don't see how you can argue your martial art is the end all and be all in a fight, but never fight or spar in training. That aside, claiming that about any martial art is pretty ridiculous. Each has its own strengths and weaknesses.
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Dick Trauma posted:I'm in L.A. I'm looking at the Krav Maga place on Olympic near the 405. I feel like I'm at the point where I could really benefit from it. I didn't see any boxing places in the area, which I'm also interested in. gently caress. That location is THE place to train krav maga in the US. So jealous. That location is where the majority of instructor training for the US takes place. Some of the instructors teaching class on their schedule are sent out here to do seminars as well and charge a hell of a lot to do so. gently caress, man. Get your rear end out there. Edit: If you look at their schedule, Michael Margolin regularly teaches classes there. He came out to Austin recently and charged $120/pp for an afternoon of training. And Kelly Campbell came out to do instructor training and also charged a hell of a lot. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 21:59 on May 5, 2011 |
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Dick Trauma posted:I'm in L.A. I'm looking at the Krav Maga place on Olympic near the 405. I feel like I'm at the point where I could really benefit from it. I didn't see any boxing places in the area, which I'm also interested in. I'm not sure how the West Coast works but http://www.wildcardbc.com/ Edit. Looking at the website and drat Wild Card is such a real loving gym. I love Freddie Roach. He could have a gym where he charges rich scrubs 200 a month but no he keeps it at a modest 50 a month so that the less fortunate can come in and train too. That's how you discover diamonds in the rough! KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 5, 2011 |
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May 5, 2011 21:54
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Dick Trauma posted:I've been interested in martial arts for years but with my leg problem and overall lack of fitness I've avoided it. Since the fall of 2009 I've been doing basic weight training and then in 2010 I started running as well. There's a Krav Maga place nearby but I still suspect I'm not ready considering how intense their warmups are. Just go. I used to think the same way for BJJ, and I pretty much delayed myself starting for a good year and a half. I wanna punch myself form 1 and a half years ago so badly. $50 a month to train at wildcard boxing?! Why is it that it costs 1/2 of what I pay for BJJ to learn boxing from Freddie Roach... fawker fucked around with this message at 22:01 on May 5, 2011 |
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May 5, 2011 21:58
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I'll write up about gay frog sailor kickboxing in leotards for the first page, as soon as I have a moment. Also could have a fight in a week, with either ballet boxing or plain regular amateur boxing available. It's quite hard not to train until I can't sit up without pain right now, I'll probably be so exhausted after a week I'll lose via becoming a statue. Exhibition only though, so no worries (not as if the people who climb into the ring aren't taking it seriously enough).
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KidDynamite posted:I'm not sure how the West Coast works but http://www.wildcardbc.com/ Holy poo poo I can't believe he only charges 50 bucks a month, in Hollywood no less. That is a loving insane deal. It's not uncommon for lovely mcdojo places in the middle of nowhere to charge more than twice that.
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Xguard86 posted:Ironically, I take a page from the Aikido playbook and just gently parry the issue.  I got my first throw on a blue belt the other day. Osoto gari. It was a bit sloppy and he was tired (so was I though) but he has about 30kgs on me, so it felt good. I'm having trouble with linking the hand movement and the foot movement but I know coordination takes time BUT finally a new guy joined who had only done a few weeks worth and I got to see how much I improved via a few randori sessions. I got him down probably about 6 times, including a morote seoi nage and a left handed ippon seoi nage, no lame cop-out drop seios. only the good poo poo! I'm not trying to show off and be like 'I got a bunch of throws and kicked this dudes rear end hurr' but I really wanted to randori with a new guy to see how far I'd come because I was the newest at the club for 6 months so I had no way to see how much I'd improved except for 'oh, the brown belt only threw me 7 times instead of 8'. My balance is hugely improved and I actually have an offense now. My O Goshi is probably my best throw, because my kuzushi is good due to the seoi nage drilling we did and everyone knows me for trying seoi nage so I change it up a little bit and sometimes I use the half O Goshi where its only half hip (forgot the name of it). I feel that ones a bit quicker and its a bit more surprising coming from a white belt but the good belts just step off it so I guess I'm still not fast enough or I telegraph it too much. Combos are hard for me, so apparently I have to pretend to want to do a ouchi gari but I'm really just trying to do a forward throw? e: or pretend I'm doing ouchi gari but take an extra step once they step off and do osoto gari? Is that the right order? I know I sort of treat this thread like a blog sometimes, but I like to get my thoughts down somewhere. e: Oh and I kneed some dude in the balls and then grabbed them a few minutes later. Both by accident of course. Felt utterly horrible. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 02:42 on May 6, 2011 |
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