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Smegmatron posted:http://www.beginningbjj.com/ On another good note, me and one other white belt got an hour and a half of private coaching with a 6th degree Judo black belt (he's the father of our current instructor). Thats two amazing sessions in a row now. He's the former Australian champion and Oceania champion and was one of our reps to the world championships. He's done so much for the sport of Judo in Aus, I can't believe they only charge 5 dollars per lesson. In an effort to show my appreciation I've volunteered to help clean the whole dojo on the weekend. It almost seems silly to want to walk away from that kind of amazing instruction but I've really got the BJJ itch. Maybe I'll leave Judo when/if all these awesome instructors go elsewhere. And thanks to everyone who answered all of my silly questions in the previous thread. e: Oh yeah, I like the op too. You always have good contributions xguard. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 4, 2011 |
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Xguard86 posted:Ironically, I take a page from the Aikido playbook and just gently parry the issue.  I got my first throw on a blue belt the other day. Osoto gari. It was a bit sloppy and he was tired (so was I though) but he has about 30kgs on me, so it felt good. I'm having trouble with linking the hand movement and the foot movement but I know coordination takes time BUT finally a new guy joined who had only done a few weeks worth and I got to see how much I improved via a few randori sessions. I got him down probably about 6 times, including a morote seoi nage and a left handed ippon seoi nage, no lame cop-out drop seios. only the good poo poo! I'm not trying to show off and be like 'I got a bunch of throws and kicked this dudes rear end hurr' but I really wanted to randori with a new guy to see how far I'd come because I was the newest at the club for 6 months so I had no way to see how much I'd improved except for 'oh, the brown belt only threw me 7 times instead of 8'. My balance is hugely improved and I actually have an offense now. My O Goshi is probably my best throw, because my kuzushi is good due to the seoi nage drilling we did and everyone knows me for trying seoi nage so I change it up a little bit and sometimes I use the half O Goshi where its only half hip (forgot the name of it). I feel that ones a bit quicker and its a bit more surprising coming from a white belt but the good belts just step off it so I guess I'm still not fast enough or I telegraph it too much. Combos are hard for me, so apparently I have to pretend to want to do a ouchi gari but I'm really just trying to do a forward throw? e: or pretend I'm doing ouchi gari but take an extra step once they step off and do osoto gari? Is that the right order? I know I sort of treat this thread like a blog sometimes, but I like to get my thoughts down somewhere. e: Oh and I kneed some dude in the balls and then grabbed them a few minutes later. Both by accident of course. Felt utterly horrible. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 02:42 on May 6, 2011 |
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ManicParroT posted:I've been on the receiving end of this before. As my mate said afterwards, No, I think its called Uki Goshi. They have't taught me uchi mata yet as I don't have my yellow belt, but they'll be grading me soon. We have some amazing instructors seemingly hell bent on me getting the basics down. But I really want to learn uchi mata. It looks easier to complete than some of the 1st kyo throws and is spectacular to watch someone do aswell.
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Natalie Portmanteau posted:It's been 6 months since my shoulder dislocated and it's still weak. gently caress.
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Adolfo Castro posted:I miss the old thread
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God I can't stand bullshido. So many assholes berating the new guys. And a respected poster was arguing that Matt Hughes is a BJJ black belt. I just closed the tab, never to go back. Glad you're all here.
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niethan posted:Why don't you think Matt Hughes is on black belt level?
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KingColliwog posted:loving hurt my back yesterday. Hoping it's just a muscle being an rear end in a top hat, gonna train tomorow if it feels right.
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Dirp posted:Was hitting the heavy bag today at YMCA because I'm back at my parents with nothing to do and I had a guy tell me I shouldn't use gloves while hitting the bag. Apparently I should use dumbbells instead because it, "makes your hands tough and you punch way faster"
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Ridleys Revenge posted:For me, the 'classic' MMA sequence is:
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Adolfo Castro posted:stuff Which gym does he actually train out of/teach? And whats the pricing like at your school and would it be the same at the one near me?
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delljit posted:My club used to be a pete de been affiliate, I train with Ninos in tullamarine and I must say it feels like a family. We wear what we want, train hard together, teach each other and have a laugh together. A few guys have the keys too so we open the club up for open mat on non training nights/days. e: wow, only 100 a month? Thats really good. I was expecting around 130-150. Any contract? The one near me is in Wollongong if it matters. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jun 10, 2011 |
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Smegmatron posted:Hey for what it matters, a guy I roll with regularly at Gracie Sydney (Alexandria, which is basically the airport) lives in Wollongong. He actually makes the commute.
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Australian Judo Nationals starts streaming live in a few minutes for those who are intersted: http://www.lmsc.com.au/index.php?page=display&key=LZeX6Rzm First time watching it so I don't know what the coverage will be like.
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Hm on my screen I can watch the main broadcast and below that there's the links for the 4 mats.  better picture. e: wow, its amazing watching someone from my club compete in another state live. He won too. e2: He lost in the finals. Oh well, second is good too. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Jun 11, 2011 |
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Thoguh, do the spelling and grammar mistakes continue throughout Attacking Judo? Its pissing me off. Is that how all those books on fightingfilms are?
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zalmoxes posted:I maybe be wrong about this, but if I had a kid I'd start him off with a grappling MA, like Judo, Sambo or Greco-Roman wrestling. I don't have anything against it, and I know Karate and Taekwondo are popular with american children, but I think kids don't really pick up on the important stuff doing it. e: you didnt mention BJJ specifically but I think the point is still valid for the ones you did mention. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jun 14, 2011 |
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dokomoy posted:I've seen kids bjj classes run at a bunch of different schools, and the kids always look like they're having a great time. Obviously you can't structure it the same as an adult class(there's less drilling and more games for example) but the kids are defiantly learning a lot of jiu jitsu. Good points. I was watching the kids class at my judo club and it just seems like boring drivel. They barely do anything with technique, they're all just pushing each other over most of the time and I would never pay for my kids to go to that kids class, but I guess thats just my club.
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rjderouin posted:Does anyone else get frustrated when you are doing randori with someone else and they are really stiff? I was like that in the beginning too but I eventually learned to stop. Being stiff leaves you open to so many attacks that randori just becomes stagnated. I randori'd with one of our senseis for the first time and got waaaaaaaay more offense off against him than against the blue belt because he wasn't trying to show that he earnt his belt, he was just having fun giving me little tips, seeing what openings I see and what fakes I respond to and he was loose in his elbows but strong in his wrists and responsive with the feet. He didn't try to throw me once, yet I learnt so much more and had more fun than I had with The Rock even though The Rock would have scored more against me. That sensei is actually a 6th dan black belt and by the end I was literally laughing at how 'like a fish out of water' I felt. He showed me some grip move and said to try it during our randori, so I did it on him successfully and then he immediately did a counter (that I obviously had no idea about) and I whispered 'you bastard. you set me up' and we both burst out laughing and had to break grips and reset our randori. It doesn't sound all that epic now that I've written it out, but it was a truly awesome experience to make someone of that experience laugh mid serious randori session. Back to your point, screw stiff guys! (not in the gay way)
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Thanks xguard and kolliwog. You're always very helpful. At the risk of sounding lame, I added your replies to my judo journal.
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Someone from judo told me not to cross my feet/ankles behind the guys back when I'm on my back and hes in my guard as its considered a 'squeeze'. What the flying gently caress is he talking about? He's just talking out of his rear end right? This can't possibly be true.
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Okay thanks. I thought that might be the case. I was thinking 'well won't it just be super easy to pass if I don't cross em'. I'm so surprised I got bullshit info like that from a blue belt. I won't do Dojime and wasn't even aware of it till now. I can't even imagine what that would do to some jerk on the street who hasn't trained before but I guess you could say that about most of the ground techniques. On the water thing, we're allowed to get water whenever we want, unless they're a blue or brown belt, and every half an hour the instructor is like 'okay, drink break, get some air' and we get 3 minutes to walk around and drink and rest. I don't think its fair for a instructor to stop anyone from getting a drink. If someone passed out, I bet he'd sure wish he could go back and let em have that water. I read online that you can burn a thousand calories on a hard judo workout. Anyone working that hard should definitely take in a bunch of water.
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I wonder why more karate guys don't post. Are they scared off by grappling terminology or do they simply not exist any more? I remember many people doing karate when I was younger and I assumed that there may be some sort of resurgance due to MMA getting big, which I know isn't directly related but it gets people in the mood for combat or to better themselves physically. I haven't seen a karate thread where they could all be hiding. I've always thought the mental aspect of karate is something that a lot of other martial arts are missing out on. I'm not talking mystical poo poo or doing kata (I know a lot of places do that though), I mean mental preparation, staying calm etc. In real life I meet more people that have done TKD than karate. Is karate seen as really uncool or something? I know it might not be the most practical for self defense, but its still decent I thought for developing speed and accuracy and mental toughness and I'm sure a proper karate black belt (or perhaps lower) could drop the less useful kicks and be able to pick up at a kickboxing gym where they left off if they wanted to go super practical or just wanted a change of scenery and not feel like they just wasted 5 years. Or do goons and karate simply not mesh?
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I guess my tone came across wrong. I really do like karate and was hoping to bring some more karate guys out from the woodwork and have them post and I was hoping to see some of the things they come across in training and what questions they would ask each other and what problems befall karate students and a karate dojo that wouldnt even cross my mind usually. So first, thanks for posting. I love the MA thread the livlier it is. I don't have a negative attitude toward 'non grappling' even if my post indicated that. I used to do boxing and kickboxing and found them very physically rewarding but I never seemed to fall in love with it like my friends did with karate so I find it interesting as to what aspects people love so much and I was hoping to find out what tips can they share about mental preparation or other things that they picked up unique to karate that they would never bother teaching us at boxing. I wasn't even thinking about grappling when I wrote my post, I was more comparing it in my mind to kick/boxing. I have no interest in saying any martial art is better than another, I just like learning and I find googling things very boring, I'd much rather read a nice personable post on here (see Ligur's posts). I'm actually pro karate and like I said in my original post, I do like certain aspects and wonder about other aspects. It looks you seem to think kata is a big part of the mental development and without it, they'd be missing out. Thats the sort of stuff I was interested in finding out, and what are the reasons for it helping. Buried Alive posted:You then say you know it might not be the most practical self-defense system (why not? Why is grappling considered more effective?) and then go on to say that a proper karate black belt could drop some of the less useful kicks and pick up at a kickboxing gym to avoid feeling like they just wasted the last five years. Which, taken together, reads like "Why don't they go study a real martial art?" I thought it was a great shame to not have any karate guys posting regularly and I honestly wasn't trying to sound smug. Like when I tried a hapkido class (with bits of TKD chucked in) some of the stuff was great, I liked how traditional the atmosphere was was, the sensei spoke for a while before the start of class to get us in the zone which is totally the opposite of the kickboxing gym I went to so I found that interesting. Then there was a few things we practiced that I wasn't a fan of, like the crescent kick. The thread stagnates from time to time so I thought we could have some discussion like that. If you check my post history you'll see I'm open minded and humble and happy to learn and like hearing about other peoples experiences, but do I see how my post sounded now. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Jun 20, 2011 |
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niethan posted:You'Re not really open minded and humble tho, I remember in the last thread you were like "my silly gf wants to do tkd VV Cmon niethan, stop being a grumpy pants all the time. If I knew everything, I wouldn't be on here making an rear end of myself now would I? Nierbo fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jun 20, 2011 |
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kimbo posted:Karate would be equally practical as long as it was practiced in real fighting situations. Those were great links kimbo. I absolutely love that sort of breakdown. From the gif's on the bloodyelbow page, it seems like I've learnt a completely different crescent kick. Your friend had incredible evasive speed and that is beautiful to watch when it is paired with his aggression. The other guy wasn't even holding a candle to him in terms of landing kicks. He was really reading him well. I envy that ability, aswell as those fast reflexes. foolish_fool posted:Karate schools certainly exist - I competed against a bunch of Karate guys in this all-styles comp (Form/Point Sparring) I went in last year (I was doing Kung Fu). 02-6611-0142-1 posted:I think everyone respects karate again since Lyoto Machida smashed his way up the UFC ladder. Even if Shogun kind of humiliated him later, Machida showed that there was nothing wrong with the martial art, it was just the lovely way it's usually taught. I mean, he crosstrained a shitload obviously, but he showed that he could stand and strike with boxers and muay thai guys and pick them apart with pure karate. If someone does the same thing with TKD, it'll have my respect too.
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Bangkero posted:Hey congrats. Did you have any stand out throws which you felt you did better at? My o-goshi (hip throw) I felt was my best (thanks low hips Yeah my Seoi Nage is fuckin dynamite because thats basically all I did for the first two months and sensei said my O Goshi and Uki Goshi were spot on even though I thought I was crap at those, and yeah my Kouchi Gari is pretty poo poo. I can drop guys with it, but I really have to think about it which means its sorta useless in randori where the body has to take over.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:BJJ doesn't have a strictly defined set of rules that determines what BJJ is, like Judo does. Not a rip on Judo, because the minimal syllabus is part of the genius of it, but BJJ's a different beast. A lot of BJJ techniques are also Judo techniques, also Sambo techniques, also wrestling techniques, whatever. Ah kool, I just thought maybe there was a group of bjj guys who were like 'nah, that sucks, we dont train throws, we just drag em to the ground, so you have to do that too' but I'm glad that to hear that doesnt exist.
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Ridleys Revenge posted:Sprawling out on a kneeling opponent is just such an incredibly versatile place for you to be that you'd be silly not to snap your opponent down regularly to look for the myriad of easy chokes and turnovers that you can access from sprawl. 02-6611-0142-1 posted:Look it up on youtube, a sprawl is a super basic wrestling/bjj/everything manoevre to counter double and single leg takedowns. Nierbo fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Jun 25, 2011 |
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Osoto Gari arrived in the mail today. Thanks to whoever suggested it (thoguh I think), I loving love it and it looks great. I plan to try to have it as my specialty. Its my favourite throw and the only one I've ever had real success with too.
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Thoguh posted:Can we make this the thread title? I'd be honoured. Although I don't think its worthy.
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