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We finally got tired of release candidates, so SABnzbd 0.6 Final is now out! And since we've got a new build, it's time for a new thread! Everybody loves threads! Usual Upgrade Warning: Upgrading from SABnzbd 0.5->0.6 should be fine, but to be safe, finish your queue first. Upgrading from 0.4 will likely blow up the world, but who the hell is still on 0.4? Certainly not you, because you're a cool kid reading this thread. =========================================================== What is Usenet, anyway? =========================================================== Usenet is the distant but common ancestor of every discussion forum on the internet. While today in THE WORLD OF TOMORROW most "discussion" happens on Twitter or in YouTube comments, back in the dark ages all we had was Usenet. We flamed idiots at 800 baud, uphill, both ways, through the snow, and we liked it. Usenet was invented back before we had these newfangled "graphical user interfaces". Or mice. Or much of anything. Think of it as massively multiplayer distributed e-mail. Like all good things on the internet, somewhere along the line some enterprising individuals developed a method to encode data into easy-to-assemble multi-part text files that could then be posted to Usenet just like normal articles. This permitted them to post binary data of arbitrary size to Usenet, and since the news feeds get mirrored worldwide, anyone with Usenet access could saunter in and download them. This is why you should care. =========================================================== What you'll need to get started =========================================================== Despite being around longer than many of us have been alive, Usenet still isn't really a fully integrated system. We sort of like it that way since it means there's no single point of failure. It also means that as newer, faster, better, cheaper solutions come up for each item in your toolchain, you can swap stuff out as you please. Here's the rundown: 1) A Usenet Provider - ISP-based access is almost universally gimped these days, so get ready to shell out around $10/mo for access. These are your best bets:
2) A Usenet Indexer - Usenet is huge. Most hosts these days give you access to several petabytes of data, so you're going to need some way to easily get around. nzbs.org and nzb.su are your best bets, but there are tons to pick from, which are listed over on The Wiki. 3) A Newsreader - The undisputed champion of nzb processing is SABnzbd. It's completely automated, handles all of your post-processing for you, it runs everywhere, it's remotely accessible, it's under constant development, has vibrant community, tons of add-ons, etc. Oh and it's free, open-source and developed by people who will answer your questions right here. You may also be interested in SABnzbd's good friends SickBeard and Couch Potato, which help with sourcing NZBs. 4) A Browser Extension - This is the glue between your indexing site(s) and SABnzbd. For Firefox there's duz' nzbdstatus which works with pretty much all major indexing sites, for Chrome there's SABConnect++. The One Line Walkthrough (Once you've got everything set up, obviously) Search for something on your index site of choice, click the little orange "Send to SABnzbd" arrow (or open the NZB with SABnzbd, or save the NZB to your watched directory), wait for SABnzbd to download, verify, repair, extract, and file away whatever it was you chose. =========================================================== The "Definitive" Guide to Usenet Providers (as of 4 MAY 2011) =========================================================== When it comes to hosts there are three main things you should care about : Price, Completion and Retention (and probably in that order). Price is an obvious concern, but nearly all plans are in the $10-$15 range, so it's pretty much a wash. Retention is a measure of how many days of content a host keeps on hand. It's also roughly the same wherever you go, and it's stupidly high these days, to the point that we should just cut to the chase and start measuring in years. Completion is the big deciding factor right now, as it's a measure of how reliable a host's news feed is. A host with lame completion will result in missing parts and you not being able to finish downloads. Only solution to this is to get a better host. There are only really a couple major news feeds out there:
With that said, here's the latest recommendations: Do you download less than 92Gb/mo? You want a block plan. Best deal for these is Blocknews which has a 200Gb block plan for $21.59. If you download less than 92Gb/mo these blocks come out cheaper than $10 per month, and the blocks won't expire. This is a also pretty decent way of testing if you really want to do this whole Usenet thing, especially since if you're really unsure you can pull it down as far as 5Gb for $2.75, and incredibly low barrier for entry. They also have even cheaper plans: 500Gb for $51.49 (10.29c/Gb) and 1Tb for $91.39 (9c/Gb). While these *are* cheaper per gig, I can't really endorse them. For it to be economical, the plan would have to last you 10-12 months, and that's a long rear end time in the Usenet industry. A lot of stuff can change in a year, so it's rarely a good idea to pay for that far into the future. Do you download more than that, but still want it as cheap as humanly possible? You'll be looking at one of the "limited time" special deals that have been running for ages.
=========================================================== So what Amazing New Stuff is in SABnzbd 0.6? =========================================================== Another year's worth of features. Here are the heavy-hitters:
=========================================================== Legal Q&A =========================================================== Q: Usenet is safe, right? A: Yeah, Usenet is totally safe, unless you start posting stuff. For the big bad (RI|MP)AA to get at you, they'd have to know what you're downloading, and simply put they can't unless you like . . tell them or something. If you start posting, well, that's a whole other thing. Q: But wait, isn't Usenet like . . getting sued or something? A: That was Usenet.com, not actually "Usenet" as a whole. Usenet.com hosed up, hardcore. They were a lovely third-rate host, they specifically advertised "LOL DUDEZ C'MON DOWN FOR DA FILEZZZ! USENET IS TOTALLY THE BESTEST PLACE FOR DA FILEZ NOW THAT P2P IS GETTING SHUT DOWN LOLLLL!!!!!", they ATTEMPTED TO COVER THIS UP when they got sued, and as such they were violently raped by the RIAA. Sucks to be them. Luckily, none of the hosts anyone should care about have websites like that. Q: No seriously, I heard that like, the entire alt.* hierarchy was being removed. A: This is only true for ISP-run news servers which were notoriously poo poo in the first place. No harm, no foul, as far as I'm concerned. Q: Ok, what about Newzbin? I heard they were being sued too. Or something. A: Yes. They lost. They're back now as "Newzbin2" but it isn't worth paying for anymore. You'll probably want to find an alternative. Q: Help! My ISP hates me and my freedom, and is throttling all NNTP traffic down to unusable speeds! A: Use SSL to encrypt the traffic. Failing that, get a new ISP. =========================================================== AN IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT SAFETY =========================================================== Usenet, due to the nature of its contents, is a touchy subject to talk about in an open forum that's being indexed by Google. Lets all be careful, ok? Try to follow these guidelines so the mods and admins don't freak out. Don't talk about the specific contents of specific newsgroups. Don't talk about things you want to download from Usenet, things you've already downloaded from Usenet, or ask for help with utilizing things you've downloaded from Usenet. Don't post direct links to NZBs, collections of NZBs, or Newzbin reports of copyrighted material. Don't post screenshots or logs that haven't been sanitized. Black bars, use them. Don't request invites to any invite-only sites. (modnote) Somebody fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Oct 3, 2012 |
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 03:04 |
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Telex posted:ohgod now I have to figure out how to upgrade my copy from source on FreeNAS and I remember this being a pain in the butt for some reason...
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# ¿ May 5, 2011 04:56 |
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demonachizer posted:Is there an easy way to just browse usenet? I remember that 10 years ago you would just look through it like forums or something. Does that still exist? As for the dude rambling about "leeching off your browser", I can only assume you have no understanding of how SABnzbd works. Our web interface has always been a feature, as its more flexible than a native ui. Plus it means we only have to develop *once* and it runs everywhere. If we had to maintain native clients for windows, osx, gnome, kde, phones, etc. But hey, if you *really* want to, the api would let you build a native ui.
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# ¿ May 8, 2011 21:57 |
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Vinlaen posted:Does the Windows or Linux version have any differences? (ie. which one is the "lead" platform, heh) Vinlaen posted:Also, how does SABnzbd handle connection drops from it's storage directory?
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# ¿ May 10, 2011 16:50 |
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Soooo, nzb.su just went invite-only. An invite system is already in place and invites have already been doled out to existing members based on . . some mystery criteria. Please don't clog the thread with a jillion invite requests. If you absolutely need invites, head over to the SABnzbd forums, I'm certain we'll have an invite thread soon enough.
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# ¿ May 10, 2011 19:07 |
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iamthexander posted:What kind of setups are you using with SABnzbd & SlickBeard? Are you all downloading to a NAS and then using a GoogleTV/AppleTV/Whatever lightweight frontend to connect to your TV and stream it from the NAS? SABnzbd + Sickbeard runs on my server, XBMC runs on my Zotac set top box, and the Zotac streams content over a gigabit network.
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# ¿ May 12, 2011 21:10 |
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Disgustipated posted:Probably a little Atom/Ion nettop like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173005&cm_re=ZBOX-_-56-173-005-_-Product Works wonderfully, shocked it took this long for me to get around to setting it up.
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# ¿ May 13, 2011 00:57 |
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Poopelyse posted:Which indexer are you guys using for these tv-streaming setups? Midgetspy is apparently running his own indexer now, though, which is made specifically for usage within sickbeard. Details here. kalibar posted:Are most of you guys using nettops just running XBMC as its own OS?
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# ¿ May 13, 2011 13:48 |
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Telex posted:If you want to make it even better, make sure you're using an SSD. My next steps are going fanless on as many components as I can inside this old shuttle barebones type system, or covering the side vents with noise dampening foam and trying to route as much air as possible out the back where the noise won't be an issue. The hardest part of the whole process for me was getting the usb remote stuff working, especially wake-on-usb, and getting it all mapped on my harmony remote.
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# ¿ May 13, 2011 19:28 |
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Boody posted:I'd like to sort a friend out with access to either, what's the best way to go about that? quote:Account changes and differences:
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# ¿ May 14, 2011 18:21 |
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lilbean posted:NZBMatrix is totally worth the donation.
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# ¿ May 15, 2011 15:58 |
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Vykk.Draygo posted:I was going to say this same thing. There are tons more comments on NZBMatrix than on NZBS.org which is usually helpful once you wade through all the utter poo poo and bickering and name calling.
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# ¿ May 15, 2011 21:59 |
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lowcrabdiet posted:I know this is off topic but I've been having trouble dealing with this exact same issue with waking up my revo using a harmony remote. Did you use a guide or have any tips for setting this up?
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# ¿ May 16, 2011 04:26 |
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dwazegek posted:Is there any specific reason to run sabnzbd as a windows service?
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# ¿ May 16, 2011 14:40 |
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Zeuhl posted:(I'm using my ISP's free Usenet and using the new SAB if that helps)
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# ¿ May 21, 2011 22:58 |
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EC posted:loving passworded rar files without comments on the original post that have a password.txt file that points to some useless loving website sucking up all my bytes Should be pretty easy. We've got stuff to detect passwording, and we've got stuff to detect completeness, and we've got stuff to detect reparability, we just don't have a thing that does ALL of these things and does them as a pre-processing script. ... but it should be doable!
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# ¿ May 24, 2011 02:07 |
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KingEup posted:Back in the day I used to use easynews autounrar in conjuction with wget and vlc to essentially 'stream' video whilst it downloaded. Is easynews still the only provider with an autounrar feature?
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# ¿ May 29, 2011 16:05 |
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Butt Soup Barnes posted:So supernews uses the same servers as giganews right?
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 05:34 |
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You're probably confusing Google News and Google Groups. "Live" Usenet and Usenet archives going back to prehistory are mixed in with Google's forum things on Google Groups. You can either browse for groups, or if you know the actual group, just search for it. For instance, here's alt.sysadmin.recovery.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 12:26 |
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Crack posted:Thanks, I meant google groups. Can I access the live newsnet postings using my blocknews plan or is no reason not to just to use google? Also is there a difference (such as different servers hence different content) between google groups and a dedicated paid plan? Only thing to keep in mind is that oldschool Usenet people tend to hate people who post to usenet via Google Groups without having a concept of what Usenet is. So don't be an idiot or you'll likely be run out of an active group as soon as they see you're posting from Google. Edit: upon re-reading your post, you sound pretty confused about this. Do you want to browse specific groups for binaries, or are you looking for discussion groups? If you don't care about discussion groups, ignore Google Groups and don't worry about browsing actual newsgroups. Trying to browse specific groups is not worth the hassle, stick to indexers. inpheaux fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Jun 1, 2011 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2011 13:01 |
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UndyingShadow posted:Does anyone know anything about these free servers? Are they any good, and should they be used as another backup? Is this the only functional one, or are there others?
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2011 00:07 |
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td4guy posted:Hey inpheaux, a couple of weeks ago I emailed you an NZB that failed to unrar but SABnzbd deleted the rar set anyway. It was weird. Did you ever look into that? I just re-downloaded it using 0.6.4 and Giganews and it passed quick check and unrarred fine.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2011 00:29 |
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Scarboy posted:Is there any way to set sabnzbd to retry downloading missing articles on a failed job? A post was missing 3-4 parts on every rar on newshosting (a friends account, not mine) and it seems wasteful to delete a bunch of rars just to get those missing articles on astraweb.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2011 00:01 |
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amf5 posted:I think what he wants it to do is force it to try redownloading from a different server. I've noticed that since many articles are becoming only slightly corrupted (probably due to DMCA requests?) 0.6 will just try to download it again from the same server, so all it does is redownload the corrupt file.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2011 05:16 |
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Corbet posted:Does anyone have a link on how to setup automatic sorting of downloaded files using SickBeard / SabNZBD? Everything going into my Usenet folder isn't cutting it anymore.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2011 13:16 |
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EC posted:So maybe that sort of functionality is coming down the line. In other news . . . Liz from Giganews posted:Today, Supernews is excited to announce that they have increased binary retention from 800 to 1,058 days effective immediately and will continue to increase daily! They will also continue to provide 2,937 days (and growing) of text retention.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 00:03 |
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io_burn posted:What is the default behavior for sabnzbd when there's a missing article? Retry just does what it says, it retries. It follows the same logic as a normal download. If you don't change anything with your server setup before doing a retry do not expect different results. You can try setting news.eu.supernews.com as a backup, but to my knowledge if something fails on news it should also fail on news.eu. IIRC, the reason this kind of setup works with Astraweb is due to routing / server availability, not article availability, but feel free to try it out and report back. To find if it's ever actually hitting the eu server, just watch the download stats for that server.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 02:46 |
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Corbet posted:Is there a way to automatically assign a category to a file I've added to sabnzbd instead of manually having to change it? I have some sorting set to drop specific categories into different folders but it would be nice if I didn't have to worry if the category was marked or not. So, something from nzbs.org with the category "tv" will end up in your sab category "tv".
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 15:09 |
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Shroomie posted:So it will automatically just grab the broken bits from the secondary/backup server? That's pretty cool. 1) Giganews (not backup) 2) Astraweb (not backup) 3) Blocknews (backup) Posts will be evenly distributed between Giganews / Astraweb. If one fails on Astraweb, it will NOT be tried on Giganews. It will go to Blocknews and if it fails there it will just fail outright. Shroomie posted:Are they still a GN reseller? I noticed in the upgrade email there was a line about them owning their own servers. inpheaux fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jul 10, 2011 |
# ¿ Jul 10, 2011 00:09 |
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duz posted:Except that it's Highwinds and thus about the worst choice you could make.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2011 01:49 |
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Hogburto posted:inpheaux mentioned this, saying:
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 13:14 |
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natsea posted:I just updated to OSX Lion and now when I try to launch SABnzbd+ it simply states that the application cannot be loaded -1712. Anyone know of a workaround?
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 23:19 |
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PlasticSpoon posted:Also, what is the latest version? The download link on the page just brings up a google codes error, and I've had the same version for almost a year now. alpha build 461.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2011 12:24 |
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td4guy posted:I thought someone earlier in the thread mentioned that they had a datacenter in Hong Kong.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2011 12:33 |
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AlphaDog posted:I still don't totally understand this system. What exactly is a PAR / PAR2 file? A repair thingy for the main RAR archive? If SABnzbd says you're missing blocks, you are almost certainly hosed without buying access to a supplementary newsfeed. Typically people use an unlimited feed with a block provider set as backup, so you only chip away at the block provider when parts are missing on the unlimited feed. As Gromit said, there's a chance you can find a better NZB on another indexer, but in my experience that's pretty rare, unless your original NZB was some custom-generated one where you missed part of the set.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 03:29 |
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smackfu posted:Are Easynews and Supernews using the same backend? Supernews is Giganews. Easynews is Highwinds. By trading up from Easynews to Supernews you gain more retention, a better quality feed, better completion, no caps, and it's cheaper. You lose the web interface / integrated search.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2011 00:41 |
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skipdogg posted:I've connected to lots of different servers via NNTP with easynews.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2011 01:45 |
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reboot posted:I pay for the giganews diamond plan right now, and get 50 connections. I use Grabit as my downloading program which only goes to 32... Would switching to Supernews and only getting 30 connections hamper my speed at all? Or should i just say gently caress it and save the 20 extra bucks a month and switch? reboot posted:Edit: Also, will my giganews accelerator work with Supernews as well?
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2011 02:19 |
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reboot posted:I actually just upgraded from 30 to 50. I'm pretty compulsive when it comes to downloading something, so i usually want it as fast as possible. reboot posted:Also, i use Grabit as my downloading program, and they charge me like $1.29 or something per month to use their search tool. The only reason i keep paying for it is because it is so insanely simple to use. How is Couchpotato and Sickbeard when it comes to simplicity?
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2011 02:40 |
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 03:04 |
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Dodoman posted:Newzbin2 is not worth paying for... they used to be good before they were taken down and had to reform. Now the only one worth paying for is NZBmatrix in my opinion.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2011 11:09 |