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Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


SUBLIME! posted:



Man, Y the Last Man was so good, more than it had any right to be.

BKV's next big story, Ex-Machina, was a different beast, but it's also pretty dear to me. Jesus, that final issue. I had never seen an ending that could change so much the way I regarded a character that we had been following for years. It was the most rage-inducing thing ever, and it was brilliant all at the same time.

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Trivial Fursuit
Dec 18, 2009

Saoshyant posted:

Man, Y the Last Man was so good, more than it had any right to be.

BKV's next big story, Ex-Machina, was a different beast, but it's also pretty dear to me. Jesus, that final issue. I had never seen an ending that could change so much the way I regarded a character that we had been following for years. It was the most rage-inducing thing ever, and it was brilliant all at the same time.

Yeah. I hate the end of Ex Machina with a passion - not because it was bad, but because it was so goddamn good, if that makes any sense.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Really, I felt kinda cheated with it. Like he had just sort of grown tired of the concept and stuffed all the notes he wanted to hit into those last few issues.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Trivial Fursuit posted:

Yeah. I hate the end of Ex Machina with a passion - not because it was bad, but because it was so goddamn good, if that makes any sense.
No, I'm pretty sure it was just bad, but we can take it to derailed or unearth the Ex Machina thread if it's still around.

Podges
Nov 25, 2002

SUBLIME! posted:

There's a shitload of panels I've got running through my mind but here's some of my favorites.

First, from Y: The Last Man:

Yorick's an old man now, talking to a younger cloned himself about growing old while reminiscing. He then jumps out of the second story window.

He escaped

It's not much, but put in context with everything it perfectly sums up the :unsmith: I felt, wishing things had ended better for Yorick but knowing there couldn't have been a more perfect ending. "Alas" just works so loving well.


I loved the ending to Y so much, it breaks my heart every time I see this page. I'd make the brews in my shop on new delivery day and have a sneaky read in the kitchen of the new comics. With the last issue I had to remake the teas, they went cold while I tried to stop my sniffling. :smith:

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


A couple pages from Marvel Universe vs. Wolverine #4. The story, a spinoff of Marvel Universe vs. Punisher, is about a virus of sorts that gets put in the ecosystem and turns most people into raving, primal cannibals over time. So it's a lot like Rage from 28 Days Later, only without the zombie infection rules (ie. being bitten). Reed Richards and some scientists need to be escorted out of New York City so they can work on a cure and the remaining, living, uninfected heroes need to give them cover.

Deadpool had just been sent to do some recon on the infected and it's revealed to the reader that he's gradually becoming one of them. He goes back to base, gives them the info and acts like nothing's wrong.



Wolverine and Deadpool go off to keep Infected Hulk busy while Punisher and Captain America take on the rest of the savages from a rooftop. Barely noticeable, we'd see Cap with his hands on his head in the background of previous panels. As Frank fires down on the horde, Cap is seen crouched down, holding his head and yelling.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Gavok posted:

A couple pages from Marvel Universe vs. Wolverine #4.

Thanks for reminding me about this. I actually enjoyed this more than I thought I would, since we already know how it would end. And I still managed to get surprised by being wrong.

Apocron
Dec 5, 2005

SUBLIME! posted:



Man I'm a little bugged that you spoiled the end of the series just to post that one picture. I'm sure it would have had just as much impact (for the people who care who are the ones responding) with no spoiling for people if you just posted the picture and spoke vaguely about it like everyone is about Ex Machina's ending (another series I hope to get round to eventually). As it is you spoiled the the series and I don't really care for Yorick because I never got to build to that scene and now I don't much care to.

amplifier worship
Aug 26, 2010

The slave is doomed to worship time and fate and death, because they are greater than anything he finds in himself.

Apocron posted:

Man I'm a little bugged that you spoiled the end of the series just to post that one picture. I'm sure it would have had just as much impact (for the people who care who are the ones responding) with no spoiling for people if you just posted the picture and spoke vaguely about it like everyone is about Ex Machina's ending (another series I hope to get round to eventually). As it is you spoiled the the series and I don't really care for Yorick because I never got to build to that scene and now I don't much care to.

A good point, but the series is still definitely worth it.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

Apocron posted:

Man I'm a little bugged that you spoiled the end of the series just to post that one picture. I'm sure it would have had just as much impact (for the people who care who are the ones responding) with no spoiling for people if you just posted the picture and spoke vaguely about it like everyone is about Ex Machina's ending (another series I hope to get round to eventually). As it is you spoiled the the series and I don't really care for Yorick because I never got to build to that scene and now I don't much care to.

That image in no way spoils the series. gently caress, it doesn't even spoil that issue. That panel is pretty drat vague as he posted it, since it doesn't tell you anything about the series other then someone threw a jacket into the air. And the comic is like 4 years old.

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

enigmahfc posted:

That image in no way spoils the series. gently caress, it doesn't even spoil that issue. That panel is pretty drat vague as he posted it, since it doesn't tell you anything about the series other then someone threw a jacket into the air. And the comic is like 4 years old.

However he surrounded it with a whole bunch of words that do spoil it.

The series is worth it anyways, it's definitely a book more about the journey than the destination.

SUBLIME!
Mar 7, 2009

my quiver is full~

Apocron posted:

Man I'm a little bugged that you spoiled the end of the series just to post that one picture. I'm sure it would have had just as much impact (for the people who care who are the ones responding) with no spoiling for people if you just posted the picture and spoke vaguely about it like everyone is about Ex Machina's ending (another series I hope to get round to eventually). As it is you spoiled the the series and I don't really care for Yorick because I never got to build to that scene and now I don't much care to.

Aw, gently caress, sorry. :( It was my fault for assuming everyone's already read the ending to this story since I'm relatively new to the hobby.

Spoilered now so I don't ruin anyone else's day, but you have to believe me when I say what I posted barely scratches the surface of the last issue, and it's the events leading up to it in issues prior (and what happens during the last issue) that make it so great.

Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you
Since it got brought up in the GIF thread I thought I'd post my favorite of Chris Ware's 2006 New Yorker covers.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


From Emerald Night. The sun is dying and Kyle Rayner has asked Hal Jordan/Parallax for help. Hal spends the issue unsure of what to do and visits his old friends an allies.

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got
From Incredible Hulk #189. In Siberia, the Hulk encounters a small girl fishing in a lake.



The "Dark Ones" turn out to be moloids who eventually subdue the Hulk as he tries to fight them. The Hulk wakes up to...



The Hulk's rampage seals the cave the moloids were attacking from and as Hulk returns to the village with the cure...




The story is named "None are so blind...".

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤
From Superman: Secret Identity #2

Clark Kent, fresh from being hunted by the government, tells Lois who he really is. This is the first time he's ever told anyone about his powers - not even his parents know.

cisneros
Apr 18, 2006
From Nova Annual #1, this page always seemed uplifting to me for some reason.

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.
Planetary 15. Elijah Snow does something that has been too long in coming.



Vicissitude fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Nov 30, 2011

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

I love how once Elijah gets him memories back he goes on a rampage of "gently caress you, we're gonna set everything right" for the rest of the series.

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

I admit that I'm a sucker for this kind of thing but Uncanny X-Force #18 got to me.





RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF
That... wow. Everyone involved in that sequence deserves to be taken out for drinks.

Supeerme
Sep 13, 2010
That just made me fight back tears. That's really powerful poo poo there.

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.
It amazes me that this is the same guy that brought us XXXombies. If you had told me three years ago he'd be writing one of the best comics ever I would not have believed you.

amplifier worship
Aug 26, 2010

The slave is doomed to worship time and fate and death, because they are greater than anything he finds in himself.

Bluetooth human being posted:

It amazes me that this is the same guy that brought us XXXombies. If you had told me three years ago he'd be writing one of the best comics ever I would not have believed you.

I hate to be the voice of dissent, and I'll probably get poo poo on for this, but as much as many of the panels in this thread have been heart-rendingly emotional, I felt like that last one was very painfully contrived and overdone. You are all well entitled to be moved by it, and I mean, poo poo, if it moves you, it moves you, but this one really stands out to me as being a really over-the-top, intentional tear-jerker. Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, and I've definitely not been following X-Men (I had no idea angel and psylocke were a thing) but that seemed pretty disingenuous.


edit: Welp, goes to show what I know.
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

amplifier worship fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Dec 18, 2011

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

amplifier worship posted:

I hate to be the voice of dissent, and I'll probably get poo poo on for this, but as much as many of the panels in this thread have been heart-rendingly emotional, I felt like that last one was very painfully contrived and overdone. You are all well entitled to be moved by it, and I mean, poo poo, if it moves you, it moves you, but this one really stands out to me as being a really over-the-top, intentional tear-jerker. Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, and I've definitely not been following X-Men (I had no idea angel and psylocke were a thing) but that seemed pretty disingenuous.

It's the payoff for the Angel/Psylocke dynamic that's been running throughout the current run of Uncanny X-Force (and in some ways, the entirety of the Psylocke/Warren relationship since they kicked it off in the mid-90s somewhere). Taken bereft of any kind of context, of course it feels over-the-top - but within the context that's been built up over the last however-the-hell long it's been - and at minimum the 18 issues of X-Force, so a good year and a half right there - it's ridiculously effective and fitting.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I keep thinking of that Family Guy episode that ended exactly the same and it ruins the scene for me.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Angel and Psylocke have been a thing since the goddamn 90's. This scene didn't come out of the left field.

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.
I'm going to agree with DivineCoffeeBinge that it was incredibly effective, but out of context it does seem a little contrived though it isn't at all. Have to remember, she just lived that life we saw as well.

Now the final page reveal, I felt that that was contrived. Still doesn't take away from the enjoyment and awesomeness of the book.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Lurdiak posted:

I keep thinking of that Family Guy episode that ended exactly the same and it ruins the scene for me.

I kept thinking "they're killing Angel again?" Kind-of put a dampening on it.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Lurdiak posted:

I keep thinking of that Family Guy episode that ended exactly the same and it ruins the scene for me.

I kept thinking of some other sci-fi story I read about a guy that was plugged into some kind of war machine, sent out to a remote battlefield to save the world from an incoming alien threat. He succeeded, but the machinery was too badly damaged to return home for his hero's welcome, so the training system built into the ship and the AI that helped him constructed a similar happy ending life for him in the last few minutes he had before his brain died.

Basically what I'm saying is that it isn't a unique thing in any fiction at all and has been done to death, which is probably why there is a god drat Family Guy episode making fun of it.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Wade Wilson posted:

I kept thinking of some other sci-fi story I read about a guy that was plugged into some kind of war machine, sent out to a remote battlefield to save the world from an incoming alien threat. He succeeded, but the machinery was too badly damaged to return home for his hero's welcome, so the training system built into the ship and the AI that helped him constructed a similar happy ending life for him in the last few minutes he had before his brain died.

Basically what I'm saying is that it isn't a unique thing in any fiction at all and has been done to death, which is probably why there is a god drat Family Guy episode making fun of it.

I believe that was a Neil Gaiman written Matrix short story.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

There's aliens in the matrix?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
They attack the Earth. Try to drop the moon on it. Just go with it.

EDIT: Here it is:
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/cyberpunk/goliath.shtml

Uthor fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Dec 19, 2011

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Uthor posted:

I believe that was a Neil Gaiman written Matrix short story.

It was actually some crazy short story in one of those Sci-Fi short stories collections I have from the 1980s. Long before the Matrix was even a thing.

The story linked above isn't the same one, the one I'm remembering wasn't told in the first person, for one. I'll try to find it next chance I get to dig through my storage boxes of old books like that and post the title/author.

Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Dec 19, 2011

seigfox
Dec 2, 2005

Just an average guy who serves as an average hero.

Wade Wilson posted:

It was actually some crazy short story in one of those Sci-Fi short stories collections I have from the 1980s. Long before the Matrix was even a thing.

The story linked above isn't the same one, the one I'm remembering wasn't told in the first person, for one. I'll try to find it next chance I get to dig through my storage boxes of old books like that and post the title/author.

I can remember at least three versions of this from sci-fi short stories and novellas. It's a pretty well worn trope. It didn't really diminish the impact of the scene for me, but I can understand why someone would dislike it.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Wade Wilson posted:

I kept thinking of some other sci-fi story I read about a guy that was plugged into some kind of war machine, sent out to a remote battlefield to save the world from an incoming alien threat. He succeeded, but the machinery was too badly damaged to return home for his hero's welcome, so the training system built into the ship and the AI that helped him constructed a similar happy ending life for him in the last few minutes he had before his brain died.

Basically what I'm saying is that it isn't a unique thing in any fiction at all and has been done to death, which is probably why there is a god drat Family Guy episode making fun of it.

I was thinking of the scene in "The Boys" where Tek Knight has a brain tumor that causes him to try to gently caress anything he can. He saves a woman and child from a falling wheelbarrow of bricks, and then you see his last thoughts, where his brain constructs a scenario where he has to save the world by loving an asteroid that's going to destroy everything.

Bobbie Wickham
Apr 13, 2008

by Smythe
Am I the only person who read An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge? Yikes, that's probably the most well-known example of that twist ending. There was even an episode of "American Dad" based on it, called "An Incident at Owl Creek."

d00gZ
Oct 12, 2002

Original Sin Murderer
Wild Guess #627
Edward Snowden

"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them."

Bobbie Wickham posted:

Am I the only person who read An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge? Yikes, that's probably the most well-known example of that twist ending. There was even an episode of "American Dad" based on it, called "An Incident at Owl Creek."

I just read about this, and does anyone else think Ambrose Chase from Planetary is a play on Ambrose Bierce and being a superhuman who escapes certain death?

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

d00gZ posted:

I just read about this, and does anyone else think Ambrose Chase from Planetary is a play on Ambrose Bierce and being a superhuman who escapes certain death?

That would be several orders of magnitude more subtle than Ellis generally writes.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Fantastic Four #601

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