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Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

American Jello posted:

welp there's no reason to jailbreak anymore wrap it the gently caress up jailbreakailures. multitasking, wifi tethering and now lockinfo. all hail the mighty stebe jorbs

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TACD
Oct 27, 2000

American Jello posted:

welp there's no reason to jailbreak anymore wrap it the gently caress up jailbreakailures. multitasking, wifi tethering and now lockinfo. all hail the mighty stebe jorbs
Seriously, the old title of 'giving Apple new feature ideas' wasn't kidding around. Glad to see good ideas getting integrated into the OS.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I'll miss SBSettings but yeah, I'm pretty much done since I don't use themes.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

choobs posted:

It also looks like Apple recently started allowing Paypal for payment, if you're more comfortable with that.

On this topic, does anybody know if you can choose your funding source if you choose to pay with Paypal, or if it uses a default source?

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!
Holy gently caress. I am kind of scared at the moment because my iTunes is throwing me the "iTunes cannot read the contents of decypher's iPhone. Go to the summary tab and and click restore while simultaneously bending over to be hosed in the rear end in a top hat," error. I found an article via google which stated finding and deleting the iTunesDB file on your iTunes will fix the problem. I did that, and it didn't work!

Anyone here have any experience with such an error?

iPhone 3GS running 4.3.3 jailbreak via redsn0w.


edit: SOLVED

Well I'll be hosed harder than an antelope. Deleting the iTunesCDB file in the same directory worked for me. Problem solved....strange though. Never had this problem before. Oh well.

My guess is it was possibly a permissions issue????


edit2: I remember now what probably hosed everything up. It was this loving MewSeek Pro application I bought which lets you download music. That's fine. It was the feature I tried which supposedly added the song you downloaded into your iPod library right there from the phone so you don't have to sync. Well, it didn't work. And this is the first time I plugged the phone into the computer since trying that app. So, that musta corrupted my iPod database or some file read by iTunes when you first plug it in.

decypher fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jun 7, 2011

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

American Jello posted:

welp there's no reason to jailbreak anymore wrap it the gently caress up jailbreakailures. multitasking, wifi tethering and now lockinfo. all hail the mighty stebe jorbs

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grrowl
Jan 17, 2007

I LOVE 4CHAN YIFF YIFF YIFF
Is jailbreaking on 4.3.3 possible at the moment? I downloaded the 4.3.2 ipsw (latest listed on jailbreakmatrix) and redsnow to update my friends phone yesterday but apple wouldn't verify the update (he's traditionally run stock, so no hashes are saved for his phone)

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

Yes, the current redsn0w release will JB 4.3.3.

eames
May 9, 2009

FWIW, the first developer build of iOS 5 is already jailbroken, even cydia works.

https://twitter.com/#!/musclenerd/status/78032693262168064

Richman777
Jan 20, 2004

Porn Santa
Not that you weren't saying this eames (and I think you knew this), but for others out there that don't know.

Moving forward, all iOS versions can be jailbroken for any current device EXCEPT the iPad2. All of them have a bootrom exploit and the bootrom isn't updated (hence the name ROM). This allows for arbitrary code execution and a way to get their payload in there and root the device.

The big questions now are the iPad2 jailbreak and a (current) baseband unlock as we have no clue how either of those are going.

Shachi
Nov 1, 2004

I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food.
So I'm taking the dive. I don't really have anything to do today and since I'm jailbroken and my SHSH's are saved I can downgrade back to 4.3 if need be. Or maybe I can't...either way I don't care that much.

Currently downloading the iOS5 ipsw (600mg!!) and backing up my phone. I'll let you know how it goes and if it's worth playing around with or waiting. Crossposting this in the JB thread to let those guys know if this is really going to be the IOS Jesus that it seems like it is (ie. Adding a lot of the features that those of us used to jailbreak to enable).

POCKET CHOMP
Jul 20, 2003

me irl.
Cool please keep posting boring "welp gonna install a thing" posts, especially in the jailbreak thread where it has nothing to do with jailbreaking.

Shachi
Nov 1, 2004

I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food.

POCKET CHOMP posted:

Cool please keep posting boring "welp gonna install a thing" posts, especially in the jailbreak thread where it has nothing to do with jailbreaking.

It was mostly for those wondering if it'll be worth dropping the JB since people mentioned toying around with the idea. We already know BiteSMS is a non-negotiable for some but I'm curious how the notifier works amongst other things.

Glad to see you're still dropping in the JB thread every few months to poo poo it up.

Shachi fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jun 7, 2011

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.

Shachi posted:

It was mostly for those wondering if it'll be worth dropping the JB since people mentioned toying around with the idea. We already know BiteSMS is a non-negotiable for some but I'm curious how the notifier works amongst other things.
With the new notification system, the only things I'm hanging onto are BiteSMS and MiWi. Ever so slowly Apple is removing my reasons to jailbreak. Or at least making the effort to jailbreak less worth the payoff.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
I'm really surprised they aren't working some kind of BiteSMS system into their new MEGAMESSAGING app. Apple is weird.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


FishBulb posted:

I'm really surprised they aren't working some kind of BiteSMS system into their new MEGAMESSAGING app. Apple is weird.

Even weirder considering it's already "there" with the twitter integration for fast tweets from certain apps.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Even weirder considering it's already "there" with the twitter integration for fast tweets from certain apps.

Yeah, its bizarre. Maybe they'll add it.

In iOS6

Kailtor
Jun 7, 2005

fucking kailtor

Ask me about my lifetime subscription

:ughh: :ughh:
A lot of people take My3G or 3G Unrestrictor for granted when they jailbreak and then forget about it even being turned on (unlimited data HEH) - but this is also a big reason to jailbreak still.

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.
The only thing I'd miss besides MyWi & BiteSMS is LocSpoofer. It's a must have for those stupid MLB blackout rules.

Richman777
Jan 20, 2004

Porn Santa
On top of that is SBSettings. I really only use it for Airplane mode, bluetooth, and wifi but still...that's almost a full row. Plus, when I'm doing development I use it to clear the syslog a shitton. Oh well....

Considering there is a jailbreak, I'll probably still do it. There's a few minor tweaks I'd still like to have.

Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001
Ok, with iOS 5.0 installed, I immediately starting missing these things:

- MyWi (used with my iPad 2 and Nook Color).
- ByteFont's Ubuntu font.
- Barrel's "Inside Cube" transition.
- BiteSMS's improved chat client. Simple things like "touch the chat part to hide the keyboard" are just brilliant compared to what happens by default (hint: nothing).

I'm so use to all of those, going without them is like using someone else's yucky phone.

I know a tethered jailbreak is possible (i0n1c says the untether from 4.3.x has been patched), but since the phone has locked on me once since installing the beta, I'm assuming I'm going to end up someplace where I need to reboot.

And of course, the memory situation on my 3GS with 5.0 may be more painful than it was in 4.3.x. I'm not sure yet, it could just be an "unoptimized beta" issue. Or maybe I just need to turn off notifications to get some speed back.

I keep thinking that I'll just go back to 4.1 on my 3GS. It had the best performance of the 4.x releases.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


So one thing I've always wondered. If your jailbroken data is saved when you restore and all you have to do is reinstall the jb apps, doesn't that mean there could be a bunch of junk floating around in the filesystem? All I really use is SBSettings and I just updated to 4.3.3 from 4.3.2, so it occurred to me that there could be years of poo poo clogging up my iPhone from jb apps I no longer use. :ohdear:

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Josh Lyman posted:

So one thing I've always wondered. If your jailbroken data is saved when you restore and all you have to do is reinstall the jb apps, doesn't that mean there could be a bunch of junk floating around in the filesystem? All I really use is SBSettings and I just updated to 4.3.3 from 4.3.2, so it occurred to me that there could be years of poo poo clogging up my iPhone from jb apps I no longer use. :ohdear:

That stuff is all left behind, but unless you were doing something unusual like carrying aroud huge video files it probably isn't taking up a huge amount of space. The "Other" category in iTunes is where all the jailbreak stuff gets counted. But not all of "Other" is JB stuff.

If you wanted to you could probably get rid of most of it by manually uninstalling everything that you can from Cydia before doing the update where you don't want to JB.

DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer

Kailtor posted:

A lot of people take My3G or 3G Unrestrictor for granted when they jailbreak and then forget about it even being turned on (unlimited data HEH) - but this is also a big reason to jailbreak still.

International calling? what's that? I can't hear you over my international video chat/facetime calls with my3g enabled on both ends :smug:


Seriously I think I've saved a bunch of money by using this feature alone, and it's even more convenient than other voip stuff as it's tied to the phone app. Even if your coverage is a bit slow or spotty, pressing the home button and turn facetime into a audio-only call will smooth things out a lot more.

This plus iMessage will save the user a lot of money.

DaNzA fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Jun 8, 2011

Over The Road
Jan 6, 2006
Le singe est sur la branche
I'm tearing my hair out trying to get Wi-Fi Sync to work properly.

I upgraded my iPad 1 to 4.3.3 ( from 4.2.1 ) using the latest redsn0w yesterday, in the process of getting everything back in order.

I'm on my second round of uninstalling and reinstalling iTunes, I foolishly upgraded to 10.2, tried going back to 10.0.54 and am now installing 10.1.1.

Does Wi-F Sync even work on 4.3.3? I tried googling but it's an absolute mess of results.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003

Over The Road posted:

I'm tearing my hair out trying to get Wi-Fi Sync to work properly.

I upgraded my iPad 1 to 4.3.3 ( from 4.2.1 ) using the latest redsn0w yesterday, in the process of getting everything back in order.

I'm on my second round of uninstalling and reinstalling iTunes, I foolishly upgraded to 10.2, tried going back to 10.0.54 and am now installing 10.1.1.

Does Wi-F Sync even work on 4.3.3? I tried googling but it's an absolute mess of results.

It hasn't worked since like 4.1.

Over The Road
Jan 6, 2006
Le singe est sur la branche

maduin posted:

It hasn't worked since like 4.1.

It used to work for me (admittedly very petulantly) on 4.2.1...

I've given up now, I keep getting the same error message no matter what version of iTunes I use, I'll just wait til iOS 5 comes out in the autumn.

What a waste of ten bucks!

spongeworthy
Jan 16, 2009
I literally cannot stand using the iPhone without all the jailbreak features I've become accustomed to over the years. Not only for most of those apps mentioned above (biteSMS, SBSettings), but things like Activator and small stuff like Five Icon Dock/Rows, FolderEnhancer, SwitcherMod, having ssh access to customize little things here and there..

I wouldn't use the iPhone if I didn't have access to all of these comforts and conveniences. Just tried iOS 5 now and I couldn't take more than 20 minutes of feeling so restricted before I switched back.

Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001
I've been trying to use Backgrounder to tame the memory usage on my 3GS. I leave on native multitasking, but by default most apps have "Fast App Switching" disabled.

All the apps I like to keep open (Notes, Safari, etc) stay open. Stuff like games close immediately. Anything that *needs* to run in the background (Pandora, etc) is left alone.
This keeps my memory mostly clear, and I haven't been getting any slowdown that usually comes when my device runs out of RAM and iOS struggles to close background apps everytime I open something.

It seems like a great thing - unfortunately, it says "The developer no longer has time to properly support this project." on the Cydia page. The last update was in April (which isn't so bad), but I was hoping something like this gets updated to work in future versions of iOS, such as 5.0. It's really helpful on low-RAM devices (anything not an iPad 2 or iPhone 4).

micropenis
Jul 19, 2004
An '04 Mac user from the UK. What's worse?
Have the emulators for jailbroken phones progressed at all? On my 3GS last year I tried a SNES and NES emulator and they were pretty poor :(

.Ataraxia.
Apr 3, 2007

I think my NES is broken....

micropenis posted:

Have the emulators for jailbroken phones progressed at all? On my 3GS last year I tried a SNES and NES emulator and they were pretty poor :(

Snes9x EX is great, and its free!

Altoid
May 14, 2002
Is there any way to make it so I can go into airplane mode and still keep GPS on? I will be traveling overseas to Europe in a few weeks. Last time I kept my phone on airplane mode and used it as a wifi device only the entire trip.

But, this time I purchased the app CityMaps 2Go, which uses GPS to navigate their maps. Dev's website says to turn off Data Roaming and not go into airplane mode. But, won't I still get texts messages? I have unlimited on AT&T, but I think I still get hit with fees overseas?

I get a lot of text messages and I don't want to get hit with international fees. I'm trying to warn people not to text me but I'm sure I'll still get some.

Modern Pragmatist
Aug 20, 2008

Altoid posted:

Is there any way to make it so I can go into airplane mode and still keep GPS on? I will be traveling overseas to Europe in a few weeks. Last time I kept my phone on airplane mode and used it as a wifi device only the entire trip.

But, this time I purchased the app CityMaps 2Go, which uses GPS to navigate their maps. Dev's website says to turn off Data Roaming and not go into airplane mode. But, won't I still get texts messages? I have unlimited on AT&T, but I think I still get hit with fees overseas?

I get a lot of text messages and I don't want to get hit with international fees. I'm trying to warn people not to text me but I'm sure I'll still get some.

With AT&T receiving texts while travelling internationally only counts against your quota (unlimited). I've never been charged for receiving. It's terribly expensive to send though.

Basically, just disable international data roaming in the settings and you should be good to go.

EDIT: http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/international/roaming/international-roaming.jsp

AT&T posted:

Home pay-per-use or package rates apply to all text, picture, or video messages received when roaming internationally. See your Rate Plan Brochure for details.

Modern Pragmatist fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jun 8, 2011

Richman777
Jan 20, 2004

Porn Santa
Here's my initial feedback of iOS 5, specifically how it compares to jailbreaking...otherwise I wouldn't post in this thread.

Notification Center is great but there's really 2 different notification groupings: 1 for lock screen notifications and one for the regular notifications. Lock screen notifications only show up on the lock screen while it is locked that time. As soon as you unlock it, all notifications that you got while it was locked are dismissed, regardless if you actually did dismiss them. They all stay in the notification center. The second you lock your screen back, the notifications are gone.

Clearing notifications only clears them from the notification center and not the actual notification. For instance, if you get a text message and hit the "x" by it in the notification center, the badge is still beside the iMessages application.

Widgets are only in Notification Center and not the lock screen.

A lot of these I'm comparing to LockInfo and I definitely miss the functionality but this is more of a comparison with what the jb scene has done vs. what apple has implemented.

I actually like the native notifications but it's just inconsistent and doesn't really provide the functionality I want. Something like NotificationCenter+ seems like it may need be in the works (and as soon as they release a public JB I'm going to start looking into it).

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003

Thanks for the post. LockInfo is a lifesaver for me, but I always try to prefer the stock apps. Sounds like there's just enough missing to annoy me though, and I'm probably going to wait around for the jailbreak options.

Altoid
May 14, 2002

Modern Pragmatist posted:

With AT&T receiving texts while travelling internationally only counts against your quota (unlimited). I've never been charged for receiving. It's terribly expensive to send though.

Basically, just disable international data roaming in the settings and you should be good to go.

EDIT: http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/international/roaming/international-roaming.jsp

Oh that's awesome news. I can just use google voice to send back to them then. Sounds like disable data roaming (which is already off) and I'm pretty much good? It won't get new email until I hit wifi right?

Cool, one less thing to worry about. I didn't want to have to call and cancle and miss any important texts.

Modern Pragmatist
Aug 20, 2008

Altoid posted:

Oh that's awesome news. I can just use google voice to send back to them then. Sounds like disable data roaming (which is already off) and I'm pretty much good? It won't get new email until I hit wifi right?

Cool, one less thing to worry about. I didn't want to have to call and cancle and miss any important texts.

This is exactly what I do when travelling internationally. Receive over air, send when convenient via Google Voice. Disabling data roaming disables web access from any app including mail.

Also, calling over wifi using Talkaton + GV is very useful.

Richman777
Jan 20, 2004

Porn Santa
Also, no way to dismiss notifications on the lock screen other than simply unlocking. Regardless, based on how it handles other notifications It wouldn't actually dismiss them.

Also, holy crap is the new safari buggy as hell. This post took forever because the second I got out of the text area it froze. Froze a bunch with autocomplete.

Altoid
May 14, 2002

Modern Pragmatist posted:

This is exactly what I do when travelling internationally. Receive over air, send when convenient via Google Voice. Disabling data roaming disables web access from any app including mail.

Also, calling over wifi using Talkaton + GV is very useful.

Downloading talkaton. It's free to use overseas with GV to call US people if I'm on wifi? That's pretty awesome. I may not need to make any phone calls back to the US but I might as well get this just in case I do.

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furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!
Hopefully some of these annoyances with the way notifications are handled will be addressed if enough developers make an issue out of it.

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