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On the subject of the Bionic, the general consensus right now is Tegra 2 is out and dual core OMAP (as found in the Droid 3) is in.
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bull3964 posted:On the subject of the Bionic, the general consensus right now is Tegra 2 is out and dual core OMAP (as found in the Droid 3) is in. Very interesting, I thought the D3 was going to have a Tegra chugging along inside. I wonder if the Tegra wasn't playing nice with the LTE networks?? Seems like that might be the case.
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May 27, 2011 21:21
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The D3 was always supposed to be a dual core OMAP (I think possibly running at higher than 1ghz.) From what's been talked about on Howardforums, the D3 is running CIRCLES around the Droid X2. So, the bionic should be better for the delay.
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May 27, 2011 21:23
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bull3964 posted:From what's been talked about on Howardforums, the D3 is running CIRCLES around the Droid X2. God damnit, as if I wasn't pissed enough that it's not LTE-capable.
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bull3964 posted:The D3 was always supposed to be a dual core OMAP (I think possibly running at higher than 1ghz.) That sounds awesome, I think I suspected it was going to be dual core, I just assumed it was going to be the Tegra. I am going to be really interested to see how these other dual core CPUs compare to the Tegra in performance. Sounds like, at least compared to the OMAP, it might not do so well. Also awesome to hear about the upgrade in the Bionic, I know you had said a while ago that they were keeping it upgraded but I can't remember if there were any specific examples or not.
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Honestly, I think Tegra 2 is going to be sort of a shunned generation of SoCs. Nvidia was pretty much a year behind schedule releasing it and it seems like companies are having problems doing everything they want with it. It's phone exposure is going to be very brief I think. By the end of the year, everything is going to be dual core Snapdragon and OMAP with possibly a few quad core Kal El devices out (likely mostly in tablets.)
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May 27, 2011 21:34
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Rowe posted:Could you snap a couple of photos with it? I'm interested in seeing the picture quality. Linked because they're full size. Outside shot from shade, it's really bright outside. http://i.imgur.com/MoN1n.jpg Outside while in the sun, really bright sunlight, anything in the shade goes black. http://i.imgur.com/PfxU8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9EOUU.jpg Inside, no flash, kinda dim. http://i.imgur.com/cWTRQ.jpg Inside, with flash. http://i.imgur.com/fCPWZ.jpg The camera UI is tweaked a little, but they're nice changes. I prefer the LG camera app over the stock one.
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Codiusprime posted:http://phandroid.com/2011/05/27/all-clear-verizon-will-allow-unlocked-bootloaders-on-their-network/ This does not mean what you think it does, read the first article referenced in that blog. It's status quo. They're saying that if you unlock the bootloader on your phone (like rooting a Thunderbolt) you can still use it on their network. They are not asking manufacturers to unlock the bootloader, no longer requiring a locked bootloader, or anything close to that.
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May 28, 2011 01:26
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PirateDentist posted:Pictures Awesome, thanks for doing that!
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WeaselWeaz posted:This does not mean what you think it does, read the first article referenced in that blog. It's status quo. They're saying that if you unlock the bootloader on your phone (like rooting a Thunderbolt) you can still use it on their network. They are not asking manufacturers to unlock the bootloader, no longer requiring a locked bootloader, or anything close to that. Yea, I never said any of that. Motorola said they would make their boot loaders unlockable unless the carrier required them to lock it down. There has been question as to whether Verizon would require them to lock it down, it doesn't look like they are going too. Unless I am misunderstanding what you said. Which is a possibility. Edit: Maybe I didn't make myself clear in the original post. If I didn't, the above is what I meant. Unless, again, I am misunderstanding you or the Moto Tweet. Codiusprime fucked around with this message at 02:04 on May 28, 2011 |
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Well, at the end of the day, Verizon has to come out with a phone worth buying before we have to worry about whether or not the bootloader is locked.
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bull3964 posted:Well, at the end of the day, Verizon has to come out with a phone worth buying before we have to worry about whether or not the bootloader is locked. Sigh  This is true. One day...one day.
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As the only one who has an Xperia Play here...I have to say I am really loving the device. Got Zenonia and Zenonia 2 on it and been playing those...having way more fun with those games than I ever did beforehand using a touchscreen. Asphalt 6 is also a blast to play. Crash Bandicoot is an old classic. It may be an old chipset or whatever, but I don't care. This is easily THE gaming phone out now, and I feel bad for anyone that has to deal with touchscreen controls for gaming on a phone. It's...it's like a whole new world has opened up for me. 
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Kirios posted:As the only one who has an Xperia Play here...I have to say I am really loving the device. Got Zenonia and Zenonia 2 on it and been playing those...having way more fun with those games than I ever did beforehand using a touchscreen. Asphalt 6 is also a blast to play. Crash Bandicoot is an old classic. Just a quick question that for some reason only brings up spam sites in a Google search—how do the popular emulators (Nesoid, Snesoid, etc) work on the Play? Can you configure the buttons to work properly in the emulators? I stopped by the Verizon store to check this out, but for some reason none of the emulators even showed up in the Market.
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Penguissimo posted:Just a quick question that for some reason only brings up spam sites in a Google search—how do the popular emulators (Nesoid, Snesoid, etc) work on the Play? Can you configure the buttons to work properly in the emulators? I stopped by the Verizon store to check this out, but for some reason none of the emulators even showed up in the Market. They may have been taken off, but Snes 9x was still there the last time I checked. It works flawlessly after testing it with quite a few games. It recognized the Xperia Play's controls and I was able to map them with no problems at all. If you're into that sort of thing, then this device is going to be the ultimate emulator phone as well. Apparently even N64oid works very well on it. ...now to find a way to get Nesoid and N64oid when they aren't on the marketplace. Any help with that?
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Kirios posted:They may have been taken off, but Snes 9x was still there the last time I checked. It works flawlessly after testing it with quite a few games. It recognized the Xperia Play's controls and I was able to map them with no problems at all. If you're into that sort of thing, then this device is going to be the ultimate emulator phone as well. Apparently even N64oid works very well on it. https://slideme.org/user/yongzh yongzh moved the emulators to SlideME for the time being. I think all of these also have save support as well.
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From the coupons/deals thread, Amazon has all of Verizon's 4G phones on sale for Memorial Day. Verizon HTC Thunderbolt - $129.99 Verizon Samsung Droid Charge - $179.99 Verizon LG Revolution - $149.99
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But alas, no free phones as rumored.
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Cozmosis posted:But alas, no free phones as rumored. The other carriers have a couple free phones here and there, and all the WinMo7 phones are free with some sort of special offer afterwards...But nothing 4G for VZW. :\
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Matlock posted:From the coupons/deals thread, Amazon has all of Verizon's 4G phones on sale for Memorial Day. drat, the Thunderbolt goes up to $199 if you're on a family plan  In fact, all the phones have about $70 tacked on from the individual price if you're on a family plan. Why the hell would they do that?
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I was all set to buy a Revolution, but I think I want the Charge for battery life alone. That, or wait for an EVO 3D. Anything is better than this drat iPhone 3gs.
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Zonekeeper posted:drat, the Thunderbolt goes up to $199 if you're on a family plan Because Amazon gets paid less for renewing a secondary line which to Verizon only pulls in $9.99 in base-access revenue every month. It sucks, I know, but I get it. Verizon subjects their own sales reps to the same reduced-payout for secondary line contract renewals.
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Zonekeeper posted:drat, the Thunderbolt goes up to $199 if you're on a family plan Family plans are less profitable for Verizon. Third party retailers get money from Verizon for each plan they sell. If they sell a plan with higher profit, they get more money. Amazon's business model is to pass that money back to you as a discount; so when they get less money back, they can't take as much off.
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Man, I've now read two reviews of the Droid X2 and neither one of them have been very good. The Androidpolice review was scathing, they hated the screen and the performance was sluggish. I think the other one was a CNet review or something and it wasn't as scathing but you could tell they weren't a fan. This is disappointing as the D3 was going to be a phone I was going to look at. Hopefully it is better than the X2.
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Aurium posted:Amazon's business model is to pass that money back to you as a discount; so when they get less money back, they can't take as much off. So I take it I can't start an individual line, then merge it with my family plan without Amazon coming after me then. drat.
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parasyte posted:So I take it I can't start an individual line, then merge it with my family plan without Amazon coming after me then. drat. Well, if you wait around a year you can. If you change/downgrade your plan too soon they send you a bill.
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Messing around a bit with the mobile hotspot on the Revolution while it's free, I gotta say, this is pretty drat slick. Turn it on, turn wifi on notebook, select phone, enter phone number as passphrase, done. Pulling an easy 3Mbps on a quick speedtest. Not as fast as some on the phone, but not shabby at all.
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PirateDentist posted:Messing around a bit with the mobile hotspot on the Revolution while it's free, I gotta say, this is pretty drat slick. Turn it on, turn wifi on notebook, select phone, enter phone number as passphrase, done. Is that 4G? That's pretty terrible.
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Cozmosis posted:Is that 4G? That's pretty terrible. Guessing(hoping) he's not in a LTE-activated area.
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AppleCobbler posted:Guessing(hoping) he's not in a LTE-activated area. I am actually. Though I'm in the middle of a building with 2 bars, and I didn't realize I had Pandora on at the time. A speedtest with that off shows about 3.7Mbps, but the closest server to the test is L.A., and I'm in Arizona... If I scoot over to the phone and run the Ookla speedtest.net app I'm pulling down 7Mbps. So I'm not sure why I'm losing 3Mbps over the 4 feet of air between the two. Edit: On the speedtest app it uses the Tempe server, which actually is the closest one to me. On the website from the notebook it defaults to Los Angeles. Speed gets worse if I manually select the same Tempe server.
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Does anyone know if Verizon allows you to turn on the mobile hotspot of a phone for a week/month and then shutting it off. Most of the time I have access to wifi but when traveling its something I would want for a couple days and then want to turn it off.
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7mbps is about par for the course for Verizon LTE. Honestly, once you're able to stream without buffering and in a high bitrate, there's not really a huge need for faster speeds--for reference, here's a lovely Gizmodo page with LTE speeds from various places in the US: http://gizmodo.com/5704797/verizon-lte-speed-test-insanely-fast
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god this blows posted:Does anyone know if Verizon allows you to turn on the mobile hotspot of a phone for a week/month and then shutting it off. Most of the time I have access to wifi but when traveling its something I would want for a couple days and then want to turn it off. Just keep in mind that although the cost is prorated, so is the data limit -- that is, you can only use about 66MB x (days active) of data without overage charges. I've never turned it on, then off, then back on in one billing cycle, though. Not sure how they'd handle that.
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I have a friend jumping ship from Sprint to join a Verizon family plan. I was pushing him towards a Thunderbolt but is there anything coming out before August worth the wait?
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rock2much posted:I have a friend jumping ship from Sprint to join a Verizon family plan. I was pushing him towards a Thunderbolt but is there anything coming out before August worth the wait? Supposedly the Droid 3 (3G) is June and the Bionic (LTE) is July, though nothing close to official has come down the wire on either phone yet. I'd caution against the Thunderbolt though, it has a plethora of problems.
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Thanks. Is Verizon also getting an SGS 2 phone? I primarily stick to the Sprint thread, sorry for the ignorance!
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Has anyone been getting the random reboots after the OTA update on the Thunderbolt? And if so any fixes? Or do I chuck this phone out the window...I'm so sick of it
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Bleh Maestro posted:Has anyone been getting the random reboots after the OTA update on the Thunderbolt? And if so any fixes? Or do I chuck this phone out the window...I'm so sick of it Verizon is reportedly replacing Thunderbolts with this problem. Call them.
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Bleh Maestro posted:Has anyone been getting the random reboots after the OTA update on the Thunderbolt? And if so any fixes? Or do I chuck this phone out the window...I'm so sick of it It's a known issue, with a fix in the pipes. rock2much posted:Thanks. Is Verizon also getting an SGS 2 phone? I primarily stick to the Sprint thread, sorry for the ignorance! None announced or rumored. The old LTE SGS 2 rumor eventually manifested as the droid charge, which is really more of an SGS 1. Verizon will probably eventually get one, but there's no current news of one at all. doctor thodt posted:Supposedly the Droid 3 (3G) is June and the Bionic (LTE) is July, though nothing close to official has come down the wire on either phone yet. I'd caution against the Thunderbolt though, it has a plethora of problems. I assume you're referring to the mediocre battery life, and the above mentioned reboots, or do you have other issues with the thunderbolt?
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