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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I have seen people use 2 large sized carry on backs instead of 1 for different North American airlines. It's against policy but people still do it. South East Asian Airlines don't really care how much poo poo you bring on board, heck you can even bring a tripod and no one cares. I use to do last minute shopping duty free and buy cases and bags of booze, cigarettes and chocolates and no one bats an eye.

Hey guys, I wish I read this thread earlier. My trip across the states was fun but packing wise kind of a disaster. I packed a bit too many clothes because I wanted to look "fashionable" and all. BAD IDEA. And I packed too many lenses and a laptop and a ipad and all sorts of weird contraptions. Mifi, film camera, point and shoot, laptop, lenses, 2 flashes

I think I got a bit too fatigued and photo wise, as beautiful, diverse and vast as America is, photo wise things start to look the same. ie. suburbs or cities. I actually had more fun using a s95 but I lost that mid trip :( Using an iphone with internet streams to facebook for many situations is already suffice. I ended up being less mobile and got fatigued easily. I wish I bought a macbook air, it's fast and great.



And I never thought that I could blow so much money buying souvenirs in the states. I ended up borrowing my aunt's suit case.



I regret not buying a wolf shirt in the states.

I'm going to do another 18 day trip in Japan. Hopefully this time I will pack a lot smarter and get some dry shirts and just look like a plain travel dad. I actually should not really care how much I look because people in the states are casual as hell. Not so sure about the rest of the country but Tokyo is like a super duper Williamsburg New York - people are really well dressed. Oh well.

This is my pack list for the 18 day Japan and 2 day Shanghai. 1 or 2 empty suit cases for souvenirs and the I'm trying to fit my clothes into a carry on and considering to buy a red ox shave kit and either the sky train or airboss. Any recommendations?

2 GOONS TO JAPAN - mostly cities and maybe a mountain walk, no camping or anything.

  • 2 quick dry t-shirts.
  • 2 pairs of shorts
  • 1 pair of jeans,
  • 2 long sleeve dress shirts.
  • 1 nerdy STAR WARS x ADDIDAS t-shirt
  • 1 polo shirt
  • 1 pair of boat shoes.

    Camera stuff
  • ipad
  • laptop
  • 1 TB external drive
  • 580 EXII Flash
  • 50D body
  • Canon 17-55/2.8
  • Sigma 30/1.4
  • Canon 85/1.2 - heavy but oh well.
  • To be determined point and shoot (lost a s95 and a s90 already ugh)

I must fight the urge and not pack the 70-200/4, but pictures of deer in nara would be sooo cute :(

The nice thing about the quick dry shirt is that it dries up overnight and I can just wash it in some sink and wear it again the next day. And I will probably buy souvenirs and clothes. My camera gear will probably weigh me down again but this time should not be as bad.

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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Mradyfist posted:

Seriously, drop the flash and the 85/1.2. Unless you're really going to be taking non-stop wildlife photography, it's not worth the extra weight. Plus, think of how you'll feel if you break your $2000 L glass trying to swap lenses to get a picture of some deer.


Oh you mean encountering dumb accidents like his?


Or having a 70-200 roll out from the bottom of my camping backpack :suicide: You are right, extra gear is unwieldy but there is a flash shadow for my 17-55 if I use the flash at 55mm :( the 85 is to bring to a certain photo dork goon in exchange to play around with his bessa. Frivolous.

Clothes wise I should be fine right?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
This thread was pretty helpful and I went on a 20 day trip with a goon friend across the glorious nippon and Shanghai. I didn't want to pay for shipping the bags internationally so I just went and got an Osprey Transporter60 for my belongings and a crumpler 7 million dollar home for camera gear

http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/gear_hauling/transporter_60

The back pack straps are not padded but can be easily tucked in, no internal compression straps or anything fancy like the airboss. There's only 1 extra side compartment but at least all the materials are well built. Maybe not the best of the best but decent water proof shell. However, rain covers cost extra :(



It's pretty spacious it can fit a laptop ipad and all sorts of gear. 2 or 3 pairs of jeans, 2 pairs of shorts, 2 dress shirts, a few more tshirts and underwear (over packed)

Using the bundle wrap method at first was nice and compact but then I have given up doing it since I kept on moving around to different places to stay all the time. The trip was fun but it's my first time traveling without checked luggage. As liberating as it is, I'm just too frustrated/lazy to buy all my souvenirs and mail it back home from each destination everyday and relented to buy barely anything.

Plus I became too poor from going to America :smith: I really want a better toiletry bag and something to bad all my stupid chargers and cables. I would pack something similar when I travel next time and get myself a macbook air the lighten the load. And just carry a film camera with rolls of film and a s100 point and shoot

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

SimonNotGarfunkel posted:

Op, does your suggestion of photocopying a passport to use for ID work alright in the states?

I'll be there for 3 months beginning April and don't want to be carrying my passport around with me whilst inebriated, you see.

Nope not valid when I was traveling around freedom land. And if you want to go to a bar, you better have 2 pieces of ID. I was lucky enough to carry 2 passports. But sometimes I even get turned away from bars because a Canadian passport does not have a "valid visa stamp from the US". Sometimes people can be super ignorant :smith:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I use the samsonite folding toiletry kit on my last 2 week holiday and it was awesome. THe hook is actually just a buttoned strap, and the 3 individual compartments are zippered and can just be layed out flat into the scanner. No need for the ziplock bag sillyness. It was fine with other airports like Singapore (Relatively tough in SEA). Not sure if it actually passes american tsa.

http://www.samsoniteaustralia.com/travelaccessories18.html

I really want to try a tom binh foldable laptop bag but I don't want to pay for international shipping it seems like the idea is catching on with other brands.

Another item I would recommend is having a waist wallet. I really like pacsafe. Yes it makes you feel like a travel dad but the attention to detail is awesome. 2 zipper pockets with extra fastening and a water resistant pouch. My only gripe is that it does not hold a boarding pass properly.

http://www.pacsafe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&activity_id=10

It's nice to pack light but drat I feel like a travel dad. stealth waist pack, flannel/polo shirt/columbia breathable shirt, khakis and comfy shoes with a carry on and dslr. When I was heading home I literally saw an alternate white version of me 25 years older with kids.

I comfort myself that I dress appropriately when I was at the Bangkok Grand Palace and not wearing a chang singlet and looking like a dude from khao san with clown pants. However, the sarongs for girls are actually nicer now, and the generic workman fluffly pants are replaced with something more "asian motif". But the top short sleeved collared shirts still look like poo poo.

How can I wear nice clothes on the road without packing a tonne of poo poo? Either quick dry undershirt for sweat absorbent or having enough time/money for lots of laundromat. This is probably my pet peeve because I like to be in cities and *try* to wear decent clothing because I might get pulled into a house party, dinner at a restaurant, or something.

Unless I feel like wearing my :pcgaming: ADDIDAS ORIGINALS CROSS OVER STARWARS T-SHIRT :pcgaming:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Busy Bee posted:

I will be traveling to Dubai from LA tomorrow and it is a 15 hour plane ride. I will only be in Dubai for a few days so I was wondering on what would be the best way to deal with jet lag. I leave at 5:30 PM from LA and arrive in Dubai at 7 PM the next day.

I go to bed at around 2 - 4 AM every night and wake up around noon so I am thinking I will try and stay up the whole plane ride and crash once I arrive in Dubai. Does anyone here have any suggestions?

That really depends on your travel history with jet lag, your age, and your health. I use to think adults were silly weak people who had to nap in the afternoon when I could just play a round of video games. Nowadays, I have to be careful.

In my experience dealing with guests and traveling myself, avoid alcohol, and caffeine. Stimulants just crash your body harder and makes you need more time to recover. Airplane sleep is never really quality sleep so feel free to take naps and drink lots of water and eat lots of fruit, quality snacks. Your idea of staying up the whole time and then sleeping at 10pm works perfectly for me but not my friends who don't get on the plane often enough.

Going outside and getting exposure to the sun/lack of sun also helps too. jetlag is awesome, it's an automatic 6am alarm clock

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Sheep-Goats posted:

Immodium AD, earplugs and cash money.

Should have made that the subtitle for the thread, really.

Or the travel gear thread : it's cool to look like a travel dad

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Those binders a few posts aggo are really awesome and you can hook all sorts things like a water a 500ml Nalgene bottle and extra sandals to dry off. Or rolled up posters and what not.

Are airlines really stringent when it comes to carry on limits? I fly mostly trans pacific, regional south east asia, most of the time so not sure about South American or European airlines. When I buy extra bags of duty free poo poo after security, flight staff just don't give a care or find some way to accommodate me. God knows I always surpass the carry on weight limits too with my photo gear and tech gadgets. Reading from the internet, it's always "oh no, weight beware~~". My biggest problem seems to be my wallet. I'm buying poo poo up like a middle aged man in an identity crisis.

Movendi posted:

I guess that's where our personal preferences differ. So if you're hiking with your one bag setup, you're telling me you would just hold a bottle in your hand or hold a shopping bag?

Brazil sounds really fun! I'm sure laundry service would be relatively cheap! Maybe he has travel buddies, tour guides cars/buses/camels or whatever to hold space/supplies? It's ok to bring an extra bag or even two bags. They are all guidelines and don't worry being a "travel scrub" if you want to carry extra stuff/bags. It's just a travel trip to another part of human civilization, not a nasa space mission. Be comfortable with your final packing list. If something is too cumbersome you can always give it away to your hostel or buy stuff when you don't have it. Except Peanut Butter Cups. It's as good as crack, surfer hippies worshiped me like a God when I shared a few. You can get Happy Pizza in Cambodia but not so sure about them peanut butter cups.



Just have something like that and you are probably set. Get a timbuktu or one of those messenger bags with an extra harness so that you can chase down flights, buses, run away from touts or whatever without having your bag wobble along your shoulders. Heck sometimes I just leave my bag at random hotels when I tip the bell boy or retail stores after some shopping frenzy without worrying about finding a locker storage. Screw you Madison Square Garden AmTrak Luggage Storage. Your services are only valid for over priced train ticket passengers and cost more than tipping a bell boy from the opposite hotel.

For me after day 20 I stop trying to plan my itinerary out. I just chill out, have a do nothing day and maybe decide to plan for my second leg. The cut off point is really subjective and depends on how familiar you are with the destination. If I was in Tokyo I would be an expert of animu Akihabara, obscure quieter tourist sights and eating at michelin restaurants but if I was in Turkey I would probably settle for any shwarma joint. So consider that point as well, how much research and how much of the "original plan" you are going to stick to.

quote:

Maybe there's a camelbak that's small but with a big enough pocket for lunch/jacket. I haven't seen a suitable sized one in my local shops because their either too big/bulky or just the camelback with a small pocket for a little camera.

If you are going to do alot of hiking and worry about water have you tried looking at the Osprey Manta 25, camel back with back pack http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/hydration_packs__osprey_hydraulics/manta_25 My only gripe with backpacks is that you tend to get a sweaty back in no times if it has some sort of load.

quote:

On the gadget topic :I'm a goooooooon

It's fun to be a gadgetphile! I would highly recommend getting a MacBook Air 13". SDHC It's super fast, light, nice screen and nice keyboard. And for storage space get a small 2.5" external for your movies/porn/photo backups/etc. Too bad the 11" has no SHDC support. Fast enough for light room! And the ipad for reading/carrying all your photo portfolio, easy sharing/quick web browsing.

Sorry if this is a de-rail. Since you mentioned internet cafes as a no-no, I will assume that you will use wifi for your internet stuff. For convenience sake and piece of mind, I think it's wise to have a basic excel spread sheet of your travel itinerary if you are the research data type before you board the plane. 3G and google sercives can be unreliable at different parts of the world or really really pricey. Have a folder of all the maps, sights, eats, and places you want to check out and just have a feel of what you like to do.

Anyways,the first trip packing light and being mobile is always kinda daunting but afterwards it gets easier. But yeah, I don't care, if I'm traveling solo to some beautiful landmarks, I'm going to bring a tripod and intervalometer and super dork room out making time lapse videos.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

qirex posted:

The Osprey is basically a giant duffel, I like more organization and a more rectangular shape since I don't use the backpack straps 90% of the time plus I'd feel weird doing business travel with it.

In conclusion, convertible carry-ons are a land of contrasts.

I really wanted to get the red ox sky boss or tombinh but shipping international is expensive. Using the Osprey porter 40 right now because local stores don't have MEI or the other brands. The back pack straps are not the most comfortable but does get the job down. Since it's a giant duffel, 1 side pocket to fit smaller toiletries and electronic cables, and 1 top slot that just fits a covered ipad and nothing else. Your stuff will probably slosh to the bottom and can be slightly unwieldy when it's heavily packed. But with the wide room, packing cubes solve the problem

For a more business or formal setting, I do want to get my hands on some hand crafted leather duffel without springing on a hermes. Samsonite has a classy version with a shoe bag and ipad holder, the closest one I found is this

http://www.amazon.com/Samsonite-Valiance-26-Rolling-Duffel/dp/B000PAWXHS/ref=sr_1_13?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1336041890&sr=1-13

Next time I'm going to USA, I'm definitely going to order a red oxx. And a tom binh laptop bag. Funny how I use to make fun of girls and their obsession over hand bags but now I understand the need for different bags for different occasions. Plus it's fun to collect them and see how you can pack your things in them.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Just a quick look I think the discovery looks good. Yes it's more of a sneaker but I think it's sturdier and more rugged for moderate off roading.

I was wearing these http://www.columbia.com/Men%27s-Northbend%E2%84%A2-Omni-Tech%C2%AE/BM3745,default,pd.html and while slightly pricier it works wonders and I can go hiking with em. Wearing a pair of khakis and having 1 carry on does make me look like a travel dad but oh well.

I myself don't mind having an extra pair of boat shoes in my belongings, I'm not the ultra minamalistic type.

xcdude24 posted:

Can anyone give me a crash course on water filtration? I'm going to be spending a copule weeks in rural Borneo, and I've been told that I'm going to need to filter my water somehow. I've heard that you can get iodine tablets to treat your water, but I don't know much else.

I know this might look silly and have never used myself but the life straw looks good. It's compact, and filters most microbes but no heavy metals (so can't use in china :laffo:) twenty something dollars online. You really look kind of goofy using it but I think it's great for a trek in Borneo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJtJ4WRumOY

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I'musing the osprey porter. It's not that great for its price. No fancier compression straps and the center space is just one empty blob. Get a tom binh or red oxx.

osprey makes good camping sacks though

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
What's the weather? If it's sunny summer then packing light is great. I'm in hot eastern China now but I'm dressed like I'm going for a run with quick dry clothes. Carrying a back pack all day gives you a sweaty back anyways. So pack a smaller day bag shoulder bag like a crumpler 5million dollar home. Yes I do have a cotton shirt. But unused :-( plus it's China. People poo poo and pee on the streets.

I use to be super photo snappy and carry camera gear like a mule but if it's honey moon trip, packing light and then with a girl the chances for photography and photo time gets massively reduced. But it's Italy and it will be beautiful.ugh the decisions. Best light weight compromise is to bring a gazillion memory cards and skip the laptop for storing media. If it's short hops between Towns, a all day lenses and a small 30 sigma 1.4 or flash is perfect. gently caress my laptop, wish I had a Mac air. Actually it's mostly cell phone pics for me. I actually prefer a Sim card to stay online and whatsapp or Google maps or use sa on the road.

Or skip photo gear and use a s100 and mini tripod. Clothes you guys can always buy extra if you are in the cities. It's souvenirs and Italian fashion which takes up tonne of space.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

cyberbully posted:

INSPECTOR GADGET VEST



It's a fun idea for the business traveler but a bit too ambitious for anything more than 2 or 3 days and a fully loaded vest is going to be bulky, heavy and make you sweat a lot when you walk around town. And clunky too if you fit in a bunch of chargers (guess usb is doable). And good luck walking through x ray with that. I too usually stuff my wallet and coin bag into my jacket and throw it onto the xray but can you really throw down the whole jacket into the security scanner?

And how about bad weather? Putting your items into a bag is a safer than spreading everything out like a trench coat pervert

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

DammitJanet posted:

This thread is incredible. Thanks, Mr. Goats.

I've gleaned a lot from the thread, and from onebag.com, but there's one issue I've come up against in planning for my trip. I'm doing a two week trip with my girlfriend where we'll be hitting Amsterdam, Paris, London, and Edinburgh, averaging about four days in each city. I've fallen in love with the one bag only philosophy, and I just got the Campmor Essential Carry-On. Here's the hitch.

I use a Canon T2i DSLR with one lens (a 28-90 zoom), and I would like to take it with me on the trip since it's my first time out of the country (I live in Nashville)

First of all, I hope you have a fun and safe trip! And greetings to another dorkroom goon :hfive:

It's your first time traveling, and yes it's exciting and also a bit nervous no? I wouldn't worry about your gear being stolen, or robbed. If you stay smart, stay sharp, stay with your girlfriend, and don't go to sketchy areas. Nashville is state capital so it's considered as a city right? So apply your usual city smarts and you should be perfectly fine. Even if you look like amazing race adventure couple. That might even make you a lesser target :downsrim:

Bags wise or what not, I personally don't think you need to go crazy cloth bag or whatever hardcore option these guys are doing. I wouldn't take the lowepro because I'm a crumpler and kata fan boy. It's ok to bulk up a little and depending on your itinerary if you go straight to your hostel/hotel after arriving each destination, lugging the pelican would look *PRO*. But I think the best compromise is to fit a smaller camera bag/day bag like a 5 million dollar into your main bag. And a gorilla pod with some filters to go.

And SLRs are getting common nowadays, still a target for theft for what not, but it doesn't scream money like the days before. You probably will see other gearheads looking down on your entry level stuff :haw:

I'm not sure when you are going so make sure you are packing the right clothes. If your girlfriend doesn't mind, you can put more stuff into her bag. And get insurance!

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Duh, just fly to America! It's a shopper's paradise. Or make friends with people who work in the American embassy/military bases and use their addresses. Or Just buy poo poo online and use a forwarder

Cheap Chinese knock off poo poo in ebay works as well.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
All this talk of no check luggage is making me jealous. I'm off to a two week company trip to Europe. So that means loading up on samples, catalogs and all sorts of things for checked luggage.

Oh and my co workers are deathly scared of going hungry in an European city so that means instant noodles and a kettle.

I will probably bring a big empty hard shell with rollers. Yes I can bring an empty duffel bag instead but carrying one for a business trip is not the greatest impression :-(

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Well, my guys are good folk but the company culture is very very frugal and historically going to Europe/The West is a major expensive thing. They are also not very adventurous. I better stop revealing more :rolleyes:

It's my first time going but last year my co-workers were train hopping every other late night across Europe and Eastern Europe, checking in at rural town hotels or arrived at really small train stations. Sometimes when it's 10pm the restaurants were already closed and the people had to settle for noodles.

They did buy some from the supermarket but "the soup base tasted really gross and ruined the instant noodles" :smith:

This time, we are just going to Stuttgart, Venice, and Berlin. The co-workers always feel more confident this time because I can help them out ordering food. It was a bit embarrassing picking some random dish when it turns out to be raw beef, eggs and onions (yum);

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Hi guys, almost done packing. It's a nice suit case:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Get one of these samsonite folding toiletry kits. It's perfect for travel and goes through different American airports in a breeze. Ziploc bags get battered and really ghetto after continual use.



Put this in a Tom Bihn Laptop bag and you will be the travel pro. *Flip* *Flip* then just run things across the conveyor belt. Reading this thread and going through one bag travel has made me an impatient rear end hole in airports. I get out all my stuff in no time and rush through the checkpoint and then :sigh: at all the other schmucks

Thanks to this thread, I hate checking in a bag. But that means I'm always those last minute gate crasher :keke:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Sheep-Goats posted:

Yeah, never had an issue. Also I'm white and often have cop hair.

It really depends on where you go. But usually being white is an advantage. Except in the Far Eastern countries: China, Japan and Korea love to bag a whitey as a drug bust for propaganda purposes.

Smaller towns in USA/Europe? Don't be Asian, that's all I can say. Stuttgart was a pain in the rear end, customs official was surprised that I'm from Hong Kong and could speak okay German and perfect English (If you look Chinese, it's impossible you sound like an American) :rolleyes: All our bags were meticulously searched and scanned. When the customs officer was surprised at the number of instant noodles and boxes of tea, he rescanned the contents. :ohdear: When he didn't believe that our group were on business we showed him our emails and list of clients.

This is why I like travel through non-American major cities, it's security theatre which no one really gives a poo poo. Except Venice, it's full of old retirees from all over the world who go through security multiple times (they don't like and are trying to pull the senior card, understandable).

quote:

See, thread, once you get it right you then get consigned to herding noodle-bringers around Europe. On a company trip

You know, when we ate at a fancy German Restaurant recommended by a local goon, the daily soup was a vegetable + instant noodle soup :downsrim: My coworkers are not really the travel type, they only country they think is awesome is Japan :negative: They have families, kids and homes; being on the road for 2 weeks is the acceptable limit. Last Year they went on a 3 week trip and it was just too grueling, especially when one of the guy is 6"1 and flies coach.

This thread is useful, but no way are we going to wear stupid waiter shoes when we see clients and do business. The kettle did come in handy though, there wasn't any hot water in the expo and we could make tea for visitors and noodles on our own. The stall next to us was a French company; they too brought a kettle and a vacuum cleaner! It was fun when they shared French coffee and we offered instant noodles.

But yeah, not all cities are like Berlin and stock the finest type of instant noodles :keke: Sometimes we get dropped off into some small town on a Sunday and there's nothing to eat. Even in Padua, Italy the hotel restaurant doesn't open until 8pm and Italians eat late. A power bar or some other snack could do the trick but man, bringing comfort food when you are on the road feels good :neckbeard:

caberham fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jun 12, 2013

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
That looks really fancy and legit! I use to use black garbage bags. When it rains I can use another bag as a rain coat :downsrim:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

cadenza posted:

tl;dr is it practical/worthwhile to take an SLR around the world for a year or should i just take a compact

The real thing you really need to bring is this http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-3rd-Edition-Photographs/dp/0817439390 No point debating on what to bring if your photos are crap :downsrim: I kid, I kid.

cadenza posted:

Good insights here - will definitely look into compacts. While we're on the topic of electronics, I've notice a lot of people seem to take computers with them when they travel. How necessary is this in peoples' experience? I can see having a computer being useful but it's another thing that feels like it might become a bit of a burden.

Definitely spring for the RX100 if you can. Think there's a newer model coming around the block. But backup your pictures properly when you are on the road!

SLR or no, what you really want is a small tripod for your night photos. If you want be that super cool kid then you should bring a Medium format or shoot 135 slides :smug: The thing about an SLR is the type of lenses and flash units you can carry with you so it really depends on what you like to shoot. If you are just doing the usual travel pictures and food shots, then yeah go for a compact like the S120.

In terms of electronics, it's really a personal preference. Most of us would like to carry a laptop because all of us paid :tenbux: to post in an internet forum. But for the weight/fun ratio item, it would be a GSM smart phone. You can make calls, surf the net, check for maps, pull up screenshots, apps and dictionaries, budgeting apps, movies, etc...

I think I'm one of the worst offenders hopelessly addicted to the internet: I just message goons where ever I go and hang out with them so it helps to have a smart phone and sim card :goonsay: My first trip month trip across South East Asia I brought 21 pounds of photogear and a dedicated backpack and tripod where as only 10 pounds of clothes :downsrim: Nowadays when I go on trips I just bring one body + one lens + flash unit and use my phone for casual pictures.

I would bring em, who cares if you break them, Electronics turn to slow pieces of poo poo after 2 years anyways. If you can afford being a glorified bum for a long period of time, you can afford a new toy in the future.

It also depends on your travel style too. It's good to be mobile and being alone makes you more mobile but if you travel for a long period of time, you won't be zipping around and would pace yourself. Maybe it's just me getting old/change of habit, but the "day time explore city and then hop into a night bus/night train" style gets tiring pretty fast. If you go to cool places, you would probably spend more than a day and when you have lots of time, then there's no rush! Which means that you don't need to be mobile as possible and shave all that weight. Just drop your poo poo temporarily at a restaurant/cafe/hostel/train station for the afternoon.

caberham fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 10, 2013

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Asking that question makes you pretty goooooooony :goonsay:

Really though, people see it as a unnecessary cost/addition? People live in cities and just wash their clothes, even if your clothes were "quick dry, breatheable" - they will still stink if you don't wash them. Yes, people in SEA wear jeans and sweat but cities in the world are modeled after modern living like air conditioning/house hold appliances etc.

And ultra utilitarian clothes/fabrics are not seen as fashionable - that's a major reason why people buy new clothes and that none of us are wearing grunge or bell bottoms pants.

From what I read from the OP, the idea is not to be so caught on a specific kind of stuff and just buy/bring whatever when you need. That mentality helps you pack light immensely. So you don't have those awesome pants, or that mac book on the road, just make do with whatever because it's easy for you to be mobile and not get dragged down by a suit case. If you are traveling for a year, your clothes will probably look raggy and you will probably look like a roughened raggy tourist anyways. And it also depends on where you are going too because not all countries enjoy USA shopping goodness.

caberham fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Sep 16, 2013

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Fideles posted:

Credit cards on the other hand should never be put anywhere near an ATM when you are on holiday - you may as well take out the money and set fire to it whilst you are at it.

Holiday or not, I don't think you should put a credit card into an ATM. I live in Asia, but from my time spent in Canada and traveling USA, I have never seen any appealing advertising for using your credit card linked to your bank account.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Light travel is fun and convenient. I think it's also nice to be able to carry a bag and go where ever when you are young/healthy enough to do so. I also hate checking in a suit case and worry about bags being delivered. BUT

With checked bags you can pack all sorts of souvenirs. Like wines, liquors, cigarettes, food delicate electronics (well USA amazon is fine for 99% the time). And porno mags. You can't really send food over mail :smith:

Sheep-Goats posted:

I have to admit that this thread does neglect a certain demographic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZNLT1Bj2I8

Well this guy actually likes going to Thailand and maybe bring all those wooden suit cases for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQUZud_mjmg

:barf:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Instead of one small question at a time, try one gigantic check list.

Where will you start?
When will you start? What kind of weather?
How long is your trip?
What kind of activities?
Lodging ? Any couch surfing contacts?
Any meds to bring?

And the biggest factor is MONEY. Are you going to bus / train / plane /ferry?


Theoretically you can just arrive with a passport and atm card, just buy whatever or bring whatever you need along the way. Like the OP , you are not going on some safari trek. Preparation can drastically reduce your costs.
Don't mean to burst your bubble but it's not some eat pray love soul searching journey of man kind. It's just a super long period of joblessness going from one city to another. Doing / eating / seeing awesome things along the way.

But if you make your way to hk give me a shout, throw you a goon welcome party!

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Travel gear can come in nice and handy but guys, don't go too overboard and look like a travel dad.


Hiked up socks, travel dad pants, "smart travel shoes". gently caress I bet he has a silk pouch somewhere.

If you go across South East Asia and will mainly stop in cities/towns, just bring a pair of jeans/slacks/shorts. Service laundry is dirt cheap. Maybe the pants if you go on a hike or something outdoorsy for a while.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Outrail posted:

It's mind boggling that there's such a thing as 'only for international market' or 'sorry we can't get that here', when you could conceivably get anything from anywhere in the world delivered to anywhere else in the world in a few days.

Market segmentation and price discrimination! Some reasons are historical, some economical, some political. Duties and tariffs,etc...

But there's nothing from stopping you to buy the bag from an ebay seller. Why customs I suppose.

If you trust a internet stranger I can price quote you the retail price here in Hong Kong and ship it to you to uk if you pay pal me.

Or wait for those Amazon deals and use a forwarder.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Air Asia is not Ryanair. They really don't give a gently caress about bag limits and carry on.

I brought a 12kg photo back pack and a big rear end tripod whenever I go to south east Asia.

I also hauled a box of durians on board. Really, don't worry about weight limits. It's fine

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Movendi posted:

Yea that's what i'd imagine, but i'm not the type of person to go to the trendiest places. I'd prefer to visit bars/clubs that's relaxed and has a social atmosphere. My friends thought it would be wise to prepurchase a ticket for a deadmau5 pool party at encore, so im not sure if that's garaunteed entry? Maybe i could get away with flipflops and beach attire seeing that it is a pool party.

Get the ticket and play by ear. Like other goons said, worse comes worse you can always buy poo poo. Travel Gear Thread : Don't be a pack rat, you can always buy poo poo

quote:

The other issue is I want to buy a lot of clothes since it's significantly cheaper in the states. That would mean buying another bag over there and hauling that everywhere I go. What type of bag would be better if i ended up with a big pile of heavy and bulky items, rolled luggage or duffel bag?
Is there some type of service in the states where I could send off clothes/souvenirs to my final destination and just pick it up before i jet off home?

You can order those cheap large bags. I don't know the English name

https://www.google.com.hk/search?sa...899.A7NcypmXefU

Best bet is to consolidate everything into one US address and then shipping it to your home.


[quote]
Group travel discussion:
I'll probably make a new thread for this but I'm sure the savvy readers might be able to offer input.
I rarely travel with a group so I would like to hear some advice in this area from a project management perspective. I am a logical type of guy but I have not learned the art of efficient management. I'm after a planning methodology that is simple and efficient. What tools and tips do you use for group travel. Apps, websites, gadgets, techniques anything that can make this a streamlined process.

Tools and being logical helps, but do remember that you are traveling with people. Have a chat with your group, and make sure everyone is always on the same page. Is everyone ok with spending X every day? Does anyone need to their own alone time? Personalities? Are you guys going to mesh well? What if poo poo hits the fan, who's going to be the guy keeping things cool and manageable?

You can be really disorganized and cluttered about the trip and everyone can still have a fun time, or you can be super clear about budgets and all and everyone can have a bad time. It really really depends on your group. Best bet is to have a chat with them all and make sure everyone's ok with whatever set plan. Don't create surprises.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
It's not maximum carry on size, only good for short business trips, but I have a mandarina duck bag. You can also load a suit!

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Seems like it's not your first time doing this so there's nothing much to add. Quick answer: get lots of sarongs!

Oh and you can always ask in the Japan thread, and if you do stop in HK give the China thread of me a shout. We can throw in the Hong Kong welcome brigade and do a goon meet.

Clothing list is fine, but I would ditch the tanktops and replace them with those quick dry/athletic shirts. Japanese tend to dress well and people in Tokyo dress really well. Shower flip flops though, lots of places do actually have toilet/bathroom slippers but the wet floor shouldn't be a big concern because Japan in general is super clean. You probably would hit the hot springs some time as well :shobon: But if you really want to, get a cheap pair at home and tie them to your zipper and look like a hobo. Shoe sizes in Japan tend to be smaller. Not that it matters because all foreigner tourists look like haggard barbarians in the eyes of the Yamato.

May won't be that muggy and the breeze is actually perfect. So probably long sleeves. Besides, long sleeves are better suited for temples and churches. You can wear beach wear clothing in most places but it's just bad taste. Ladies have it easy for back pack travelling, just pick up a sarong and make different styles out of it.

Footwear is really subjective, 1 normal + 1 nice is what I used to do. I worse some nice looking shoes for 2 weeks in Kansai and my feet felt horrible afterwards. But nowadays I get lazy and look like a travel dad with my black sneakers/hiking shoes/athletic poo poo.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

pig slut lisa posted:

I am the fiancee :yayclod:

We get into HK on a Wednesday in June, and I really really want to go to Happy Valley. It could be fun to meet some goons for the races maybe.

It's a blast and pretty exciting. It will be a bit muggy in Hong Kong by then but who cares, it's Hong Kong, not Japan. If you guys can get me a box of Tokyo bananas when you leave Japan that would be super awesome. Oh and get an open jaw ticket. Going from Tokyo ---> southern Japan ---> back to Tokyo is a bit of a schlep and not really worth it. Unless you are some train nerd and love riding trains all day :goonsay:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Bamboo shirts and quick dry shirts are fine. I myself think buttons up are more appropriate than t-shirts because of the collar. It's a small difference though. You can wear buttons up in the grand palace but not a t-shirt. The main thing is : you won't look like a creepy sex tourist if you are always with your girlfriend. Just another diving tourist couple.

Oh and bring 1 pair of pants. Just in case.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I think nice travel gear is nice to have and worth the extra money. It's not like you are carrying much anyways. Might as well Carry nicer reliable things

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
The biggest problem is that everyone loves to overpack. No, your 5 day domestic trip to another city doesn't need a huge checked suit case. Unless you are carrying booze/sports equipment. That's about loving it. Laundry service is plentiful in the cities and you can wash your clothes.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I'm the souvenir shopping king. Get an empty duffel bag or those ugly looking foldable plastic suit cases. Then mail that poo poo back home.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Oxfords or bust :henget:

Might as well just wear some leather boots and call it the day

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Are you morbidly obese or have weird sizes? It's the capital city of France, not some arctic hell whole for Christ sake's. I'm sure you can always buy more clothes if you run out. Or pay for laundry.

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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Actually wherever I go I love packing diapers by because I'm secretly an adult baby

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