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Cornwind Evil posted:While addressing certain things happening over in another manga, that being One Piece, I described the situation as 'sort of like the ending of Attack On Titan' (the manga) Though I suspect Oda will be considerably kinder in how that manga's plot went about addressing THAT.' From a few days ago but I finally caught up and finished the AoT anime; planning on reading the manga to compare but from what I've read while there are differences the gist is the same. So like Schwarzwald said, it's not an irrational and ingrained hatred, it is one that is specifically stoked with continual propaganda and nationalism. The Marleyans have a complex and fraught relationship with the Eldians: ostensibly they hate them for their past crimes but instead of simply wiping them out (and getting rid of the threat of Titans altogether) they need to maintain a population of Eldians under their thumb to cull Warrior candidates from for military purposes. They maintain the pretense that Paradis is out there waiting to strike at any time as a propaganda tool and recruit particularly nationalistic Eldians that they have effectively brainwashed to hate their own kind. We eventually find out that events that began the series were sold as a way to neutralize the threat of an invasion from Paradis, but in reality were a way to try and regain access to the Founding Titan in order to reaffirm their military might in the face of technological advancements. Likewise Eren's attempted genocide is in part due to the acknowledgement that even with control of the Founding Titan and several others, Marley and other nations will soon have the technology to just bomb them into extinction anyway. The final manga pages are a bit more vague than the anime images and both are open to interpretation. What seems clear is that Mikasa at least continued to visit Eren's grave and seemingly was laid to rest there as well, possibly with members of her own/her friends family continuing to visit. The manga shows a significantly more modern city being bombed into ruins, while the anime gets super futuristic with it, implying in either case that hundreds if not thousands of years have passed. Most people have interpreted this like you have as the outside world finally coming to get their final revenge and wipe out the Eldians, but as pointed out there's alternate possibilities, including the militaristic core of the society established by the Yeagerists eating itself, or just a completely different war eventually coming to Paradis. I think the anime is explicitly trying to clarify this with the super futuristic scene, implying that while Paradis eventually did fall, the threat of the Titans was likely a distant memory at this point. Finally, I agree with others that at least the circumstances of the boy at the end finding the tree give some reason to be hopeful or at least not completely nihilistic. The ending could have just stopped at the ruins of humanity after all, or it could have shown the same pattern repeating with an abused or hurt person fleeing into the tree to hide (thus implying the same kind of pain and revenge cycle that the Eldians originally went through). Instead it shows a human survivor exploring the area; since we know nothing of this boy's society we can't say that it will immediately devolve into warfare, the Titans could instead be used as tools to help rebuild humanity Obviously a lot of this does factor in characterization BUT I think it is an important counterpoint to the idea that the hatred is embedded within human DNA or that this is a relentlessly pessimistic series that thinks humanity is destined to endlessly slaughter itself. What it definitely does say is that cultures that promote and value warfare will eventually meet their end due to warfare.
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