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And now a gallery of selected tweets from Finebaum caller, "Legend."    Marvel as he sexually harasses celebrities:   
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wootmachine posted:And now a gallery of selected tweets from Finebaum caller, "Legend." You can gently caress right off with that, you leave Legend alone and so help me god if Tammy or I-Man get a twitter account you leave them the gently caress alone too.
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Jun 16, 2011 04:14
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From an Ohio State poster on the decommitment of Kyle Kalis:quote:
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Jun 22, 2011 03:27
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What It Dooski posted:From an Ohio State poster on the decommitment of Kyle Kalis: Looks like Osama's plan of faking his own death and going unnoticed as a starting player on a football team with nationally televised games every week is in jeopardy!!! Better go to his backup plan of becoming a news anchor on CNN under the name "Jerry bin Laden."
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Jun 27, 2011 20:23
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To be fair there's a decent-sized Middle Eastern/Arabic population in SE Michigan. To be even fairer, many Ohio State fans are loving retarded.
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Jun 29, 2011 19:10
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Some Moron posted:I honestly would take Tebow over Schaub right now because he shows emotion, he has heart, he tries to fire up his team and get them to rally around each other and put forth maximum effort. All of which Schaub has never done. (avatar goes better with this one than the Mario Williams post earlier in the thread)
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Jun 29, 2011 23:22
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I present to you the most unreadable thing: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=448360 A month long, 63 page thread that almost instantly devolves into Peyton vs Brady and stays there, forever.
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Jun 29, 2011 23:24
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Kalli posted:I present to you the most unreadable thing: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=448360 You'd think that after the last three or four offseasons where just about every forum pertaining to anything to do with NFL has had the Manning vs Brady debate all that could be said would have been said.
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Jul 1, 2011 00:22
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BlindSite posted:You'd think that after the last three or four offseasons where just about every forum pertaining to anything to do with NFL has had the Manning vs Brady debate all that could be said would have been said. But they haven't yet involved ethnic slurs of every minority on the planet yet, by my count the Hutterites and Nichiren Buddhists have yet to be brought into the debate.
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Jul 1, 2011 03:19
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quote:The majority of NFL players could be replaced and most NFL fans wouldnt even notice. They would only notice a difference if the handful of star players were not on the field.
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Jul 1, 2011 05:28
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Kalli posted:I present to you the most unreadable thing: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=448360 This pisses me off so much and I wish Jaws, Gruden, and everyone else who talks like this would loving die: quote:as compared to other great QB's like the Montana's, Brady's, Elway's, Aikmans etc....
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Jul 1, 2011 16:31
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:Yes, Buffalo Bills forum poster, I'm sure that no one will notice when The sad thing is the Bills would probably be a good team if everyone had NFLGENERIC players
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Jul 1, 2011 19:45
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quote:I know I can't hold my hands out if my boss makes more money. We agree to work for what ever compensation we get; the players should be happy they get what they are getting.
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Jul 1, 2011 23:48
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I actually side with the "quit whining and play your football for millions" crowd but they're so terrible at arguing that I don't want to associate with them.
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Jul 2, 2011 00:08
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Hogs Haven poster posted:A good kicker puts us at 9-7 last year…Just saying. Hogs Haven editor posted:Look at the NFL results almost every game is insanely close, it truly is a game on inches. Every fan can say one kick here, one less block in the back, etc… then we would of been a winning team. Sure we lost 6 games by extremely thin margins, but also ALL of our wins were one score games. You can sit here and say that we easily could of gone 9-7, and someone else can just as easily say we could of gone 0-16, thin line is razor thin.
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Jul 2, 2011 01:02
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I just realized that it would be so easy for the Redskins to change their name to the Hogs and get rid of all that old-timey racism while still having a name with tradition behind it. They really are that stubborn though.
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PizzaDelivery posted:Penn State's Scout site is full of old people who most likely suffer from dementia. I didn't know that Bill Plaschke was a Penn State fan
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Sash! posted:I actually side with the "quit whining and play your football for millions" crowd but they're so terrible at arguing that I don't want to associate with them. So who do you side with when the owners are the ones whining and not playing football? I always want to ask the "but I can't ask my boss for more money!" folks what they would do if their boss just came up and told them he decided he wanted more money so he was giving them a 5% pay cut. quote:I just realized that it would be so easy for the Redskins to change their name to the Hogs and get rid of all that old-timey racism while still having a name with tradition behind it. They really are that stubborn though. Ugh. The number of my friends who are Skins fans and bend over backwards to try to justify the name is depressing. I've heard the "It's not racist because they asked some Indians and they said it was fine" argument, and the "It's in honor of some specific Indians, so using a slur is ok because we're honoring them" one. No one seems to get that it's roughly as bad as having a team called the Washington Negroes. And no one will take seriously my suggestion to change the name to the Beltway Snipers. JoshTheStampede fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jul 2, 2011 |
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Jul 2, 2011 07:34
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Dominion posted:Ugh. The number of my friends who are Skins fans and bend over backwards to try to justify the name is depressing. I've heard the "It's not racist because they asked some Indians and they said it was fine" argument, and the "It's in honor of some specific Indians, so using a slur is ok because we're honoring them" one. No one seems to get that it's roughly as bad as having a team called the Washington Negroes. You know, as much as it makes sense to change the name, the most surprising thing I always find is just how little controversy the name seems to garner. They even polled the Native American population and found that only 9% found it offensive. http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/Downloads/Political_Communication/naes/2004_03_redskins_09-24_pr.pdf So while it seems intuitive to say that it's really offensive, the reality is more complex than that. EDIT: Not saying it shouldn't be changed.
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Jul 2, 2011 08:06
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Democrazy posted:You know, as much as it makes sense to change the name, the most surprising thing I always find is just how little controversy the name seems to garner. They even polled the Native American population and found that only 9% found it offensive. Honest question: Why do people find it so racist? I realize the term singles out a race of people, but I can't remember ever having heard the word used with the same connotations as something like "friend of the family". Really I've never even heard the word used at all outside of references to the football team. I am from the West coast so maybe on the East coast it is used as a derogatory term a lot or something?
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HappyHelmet posted:Honest question: Well maybe it doesn't have the same connotations as that, but you have to admit Washington Blackskins would still be totally unacceptable. It's just a stupid double standard.
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Jul 2, 2011 11:48
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HappyHelmet posted:Honest question: I think the most important reason it is offensive to Native Americans is that it stereotypes them as a bunch of fierce warriors and ignores all other parts of their culture (fry bread, gaming, susceptibility to smallpox). They would prefer to be seen as real people, not a bunch of fierce warrior caricatures. It probably also stings that the Redskins make a ton of money merchandising the stereotype. Most of the Native Americans I have known didn't give a poo poo, but those that did were very vocal about it
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Jul 2, 2011 12:27
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There were a couple of NCAA teams that had Native American-themed names that were forced to change even though nearby tribes were cool with the names. That some of the white people who jumped in and started demanding the change seemed to have such a paternal mentality, that this minority population had to be convinced that they were being offended for their own good, seemed more offensive than the name itself.
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Jul 2, 2011 13:31
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Thaddius the Large posted:But they haven't yet involved ethnic slurs of every minority on the planet yet, by my count the Hutterites and Nichiren Buddhists have yet to be brought into the debate. I am myself a Nichiren Buddhist, I don't think there are any slurs for us. They should put a team in West Virginia and cell them the Rednecks to balance out the Redskins thing. Then everyone can shut the gently caress up about it already. Jesus.
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Jul 2, 2011 17:26
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Redskins is an offensive stereotype. Slash the only reason American culture sees them as this fierce warrior is because we spent a hundred years fighting and slaughtering them in the process of conquering their land. You wouldn't call a team the Blackskins or the Yellowskins.
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Jul 2, 2011 18:04
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Anals of History posted:There were a couple of NCAA teams that had Native American-themed names that were forced to change even though nearby tribes were cool with the names. That some of the white people who jumped in and started demanding the change seemed to have such a paternal mentality, that this minority population had to be convinced that they were being offended for their own good, seemed more offensive than the name itself. That seems to be the case with the Redskins. Most of the people up in arms about the name seem to just be white people with a strong desire to prove that they're not racist by changing a name that doesn't appear to offend many people. The Browns are my secondary team and the name invokes images of poo poo so the name needs to be changed as to not offend me! 
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Larch posted:I am myself a Nichiren Buddhist, I don't think there are any slurs for us. They should put a team in West Virginia and cell them the Rednecks to balance out the Redskins thing. Then everyone can shut the gently caress up about it already. West virginia is hillbillies, not rednecks you racist nuncle jimbo fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jul 2, 2011 |
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Jul 2, 2011 19:41
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Kalli posted:niiiiice
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I live in South Dakota near a number of reservations, and I've never heard anyone using redskins as a slur. I've heard a lot of worse things though 
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Jul 2, 2011 20:27
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Democrazy posted:You know, as much as it makes sense to change the name, the most surprising thing I always find is just how little controversy the name seems to garner. They even polled the Native American population and found that only 9% found it offensive. They polled 768 Native Americans. There's about 3 million Native Americans living in the US, according to the 2010 census. That's not really much of a sample size.
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Jul 2, 2011 21:01
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RIP Eastern Michigan Hurons, you were too good for this world. The Native Americans in town were fine with the name too, it was the rich white people that got it axed.
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Jul 2, 2011 21:47
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Detroit_Dogg posted:RIP Eastern Michigan Hurons, you were too good for this world. See, Hurons doesn't bother me. It's not a slur, it's an actual name of a group of people. It would be like calling your team the Floridians or the Southerners. It's not offensive at all. Redskin is a racial slur. That's why it's offensive and the Chiefs isn't.
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Dominion posted:See, Hurons doesn't bother me. It's not a slur, it's an actual name of a group of people. It would be like calling your team the Floridians or the Southerners. It's not offensive at all. Yes but look at this damning logo! 
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Jul 2, 2011 22:03
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Detroit_Dogg posted:RIP Eastern Michigan Hurons, you were too good for this world. How did they find any Native Americans in Ypsi? Did they just happen to be driving by on 94 or something?
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Jul 2, 2011 22:07
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Dominion posted:They polled 768 Native Americans. There's about 3 million Native Americans living in the US, according to the 2010 census. That's not really much of a sample size. I too have no understanding of how statistics work
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BigJake posted:I too have no understanding of how statistics work Do you really think a sample size of 800 allows one to accurately represent the opinions of 3 million people, to the point where you would feel comfortable saying "No, it's cool, we asked the indians and they said it was not offensive"?
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Jul 2, 2011 22:33
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Dominion posted:Do you really think a sample size of 800 allows one to accurately represent the opinions of 3 million people A sample of 768 out of a population of 3 million yields a margin of error of about 3.6% at 95% confidence. So yes, absolutely. Assuming it was a random sample anyway BigJake fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 2, 2011 |
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Jul 2, 2011 22:41
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BigJake posted:A sample of 768 out of a population of 3 million yields a margin of error of about 3.6% at 95% confidence. Well, fair enough. I suppose the next question is whether or not it's ok to keep a team name that offends 5-12% of the racial group it refers to.
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Christ I'm native american and I find it offensive the reason there aren't more people who do is because for a lot of native americans the whole "living in 3rd world conditions on a reservation" is a more important issue and most of them got murdered by the government so there aren't enough of them to cause widespread outrage.
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