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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Crosby B. Alfred posted:

Does anyone have any takes on cheaper Las Vegas hotels like the Rio, Strat, etc. or whatever else? It doesn't have to be fancy or the perfect location as long as it's quiet so I'm able to work during the day.

Are you here to hunt for a place to live? Just pick one of the "locals" hotels like The Orleans or something. The Strip is for telling people back home that you went to Caesars Palace, and that's going to be far less of exciting claim if you live here.

Condo-hotels like MGM Signature and Hilton Grand Vacations aren't bad if you're more interested in business than gambling and shows.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Jan 23, 2023

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Someone asked in February about burgers and I ignored this thread. I use to like Holstein's at Cosmopolitan but I don't know if it's still good.

The (actually 24 hours!) cafe at Palms served up the best burger I've had in years, possibly ever.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Mr. Wiggles posted:

To be fair, if you're here on vacation or for work and you're not down for an adventure to weird off strip places, it might now be for you.

Yeah if you're willing to eat out of a nondescript strip mall that looks like it predates the building boom, there's a lot of out of the way places in this town that have a very good reputation even if they don't always give off good vibes (and some of them, good reputation or no, are just filthy. I won't be doing Blueberry Hill again!)

The one I've recently wanted to try is the 80s cafe by UNLV. Just haven't had any reason to be over there in years.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I've lived here a long time and was a regular visitor since I turned 18, and I've never seen any of that. I'm sure it occasionally happens (especially at certain bars and clubs) but it sort of sounds a little more like the Hollywood make-believe vision than reality.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Crosby B. Alfred posted:

Something that's about twenty minutes from the Strip but still has a real pool, spa, etc. without too many young adults running around.

Green Valley Ranch!

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Baddog posted:

Haven't been there in awhile, but GVR seemed kinda bleah compared to red rock?

I lived near-ish Red Rock for 15 years, live closer to GVR now and like it far more. It's more about vibes, I suppose, though for a tourist Red Rock is further away from the airport. GVR was built on the idea of Bellagio and Caesars and Venetian, with all the plasterfoam columns and Tuscan touches. Red Rock was built based post-Wynn on the founders memories of Old Vegas and it's a gussied up midcentury modern look. GVR also has a sand "beach" pool (complete with a wave machine that is never working) compared to Red Rock's pools looking like they were cut into stone. GVR also has Pizza Rock, which is a plus to me.

The casinos are basically going to have the same mix and roughly the same denominations. The movie theater at GVR is smaller and there's no bowling alley, so it's definitely more of a quieter mix of visitors. I'm one of those people who thinks Vegas casinos were at their best trying Disney hard to look like something that was dropped in the middle of the desert out of some place else, so to me GVR's attempt at euro-luxury is aesthetically superior to Red Rock which is just unashamedly a casino.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jul 11, 2023

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Mr. Wiggles posted:

They're repaving every year for the race.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/news-columns/road-warrior/how-often-will-the-las-vegas-f1-circuit-need-to-be-repaved-2788874/

quote:

“This track should last six years, if not eight-10 years,” Miller said. “We do recognize there will be times where we have to go back and make repairs … so we’ve got a protocol process in place (with Clark County) to make sure it goes back to the same as we did it the first time around.”

Locals are almost giddy for this thing to fail because the amount of infrastructure it requires is immense and all of it being temporary stuff that's supposed to be warehoused somewhere and then trotted out each fall like it's a Disney ride's Christmas overlay is just absurd. I know that residents complaining about traffic is the least interesting thing in the world, but they built a temporary car flyover on East Flamingo by Battista's behind Cromwell. Like an instant-noodles version of a freeway overpass. Setting it up closed so many lanes, and of course the city police sat in squad cars all around the traffic mess waiting to arrest people committing a road rage but not doing anything to be in the street and direct traffic to help keep everyone sane. The costs are "we'll figure that out later" (and they've floated government subsidy, and gently caress that) and they're hoping Strip employees don't mind taking the Monorail to work, and even out of towners should understand how unhelpful that system is.

Between all that and a lot of micro-declines like Bellagio destroying the row of desert-compatible trees that lined the front of the property for 25 years, the Strip is going to be really weird after summer until this race thing bombs and they stop doing it.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Nov 12, 2023

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Sphere's quarterly window ended two days after opening, so revenues are like some early U2 sales and that's it.

BizarroAzrael posted:

Anyone ever done New Year's Eve in Vegas? Was thinking of going solo as I'm at a loose end. I gather The Strip closes to traffic for fireworks, how difficult is it getting around? I may stay Downtown for it.

Stay in the biggest resort you can and don't go outside.

I did NYE in Aria on it's opening year and had no problem getting around most of the day but after it got dark I didn't leave the property. Because it's a curvy tower the actual 12:00 event I watched from one of the big windows in the hallways while looking upward and seeing the fireworks launching off the roof of the building I'm inside. Every other casino I've been in in NYE is weirdly quiet and lonesome once everyone runs off into the street.

Now if you're actually into being around the energy of total strangers in various states of alcoholic delusion, then I can't speak for it because huge public crowds are a risk in America. Downtown should at least be somewhat safer as they'll probably be hauling out the metal detectors on either end of Fremont.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 14, 2023

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Never stayed at Tropicana but played there and had dinner there.

It's an okay place that has suffered through some of the worst management in the 2000s, and attempts to revitalize it by later owners were moderately successful but a bit like trying to close the barn doors after the horses had already escaped. Specifically they tried adding celebrity chefs and a nightclub to a mid-market old hotel that was given a facelift after being a bit of a vomitorium for ten years previously and watched those ideas fizzle. It's one of those cases not where it doesn't make money, but it doesn't make enough money, because it's not the right people's money. It's a fine place to do Vegas on a budget, but nobody who owns a casino wants to be the headquarters for people doing Vegas on a budget stay at, they want to be the place those people walk through before returning to somewhere else.

If you can't attract nepo-babies spending inherited money then close up, basically. It's sad because the Miami vibe kind of works for it, and it's one of the last deep old pools and even offers the property's historical swim-up blackjack at times.

Personally I expect it to just sit empty for a while. The owners don't really have the capital to build their dream replacement, as they're struggling to build a resort in Chicago that was supposed to be the money engine for this. It's going to be one of those Atlantic City things where a place sits and rots and is eventually sold to someone who gets it reopened again.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Feb 13, 2024

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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I went to the Stardust on it's very last day, and visiting Tropicana several weeks ago felt a lot like that: generally a vibe that the things that make money still work and there's no real need for a full demolition, but decades of sprawl has left it with no clear easy improvement. Imploding the Stardust was the wrong move for it's owner as they had to sell it to someone capable of finishing the rebuild after the housing crisis hit Vegas, and I feel Trop will likely meet a similar fate. Arguably half of Tropicana could have been saved while the other half is redeveloped, but presuming you have the money (and I'm not sure the Ballys corporation does, given what's happening in Chicago) why would you? Saving grace is, the land is owned by a different company who could try to break the lease if Ballys is unable to construct a replacement.

Caesars Palace used to have the same problem, but because it's Caesars and much more iconic, they spent fifteen years constructing and jackhammering away there to demolish and redevelop piece by piece.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Apr 2, 2024

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Twenty Four posted:

Same response as last time: The Tropicana is supposedly getting demolished to build the new stadium for the Oakland Las Vegas Athletics baseball team at that location.

The stadium is planned for only nine acres, with the other 26 being a new resort.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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UnleashedDad posted:

PH was definitely chosen for something like Earl of Sandwich. I want to keep food costs low for breakfast and lunch but I'm fine with 100pp for dinner. I'm currently looking at Best Friend, Prime Steakhouse and Mon Ami Gabi. Maybe the Strip House in PH.

Strip House can be summed up as "well, it's there." It has always been a me-too restaurant that likely exists so the casino can comp people for steak. I would tell you to look at Beauty & Essex at the Cosmpolitan across the bridge, or Gordon Ramsay Steak at Paris next door.
To be honest, Paris is overall a good place for food as long as you stay away from The Bedford which is tremendously expensive and not at all worth it. And I am someone who doesn't hate Martha Stewart, but Martha you gotta do better.

And as cheap lunches go, Ocean One is probably worth your time. (Still haven't done it after all these years, but it's one of the few values left on the Strip.)

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Apr 5, 2024

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Alan Smithee posted:

we're going to convention center but doesn't matter where we are, stripish is nice if pos

Virgin, Palace Station.

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

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Sentient Data posted:

It started when online booking and short term rentals used vc money to get into a price war with the hotels they were buying the rooms from. Just pull up the nightly prices of hotels in the middle of nowhere and you'll feel a lot better when you see joe schmo wants like 140/night

Short term rentals have tight regulations here (they're banned entirely in City of LV limits last I checked, and the county unincorporated areas recently implemented registration where each one has to be a certain distance from any other). Nobody who lives here wants to live near tourists visiting because tourists tend to get more loaded, more loud, more violent, and basically fall into the spell of Vegas as some sort of outlaw town where you can be your worst self and nobody remembers it after you've left. That's not the kind of neighbor anyone wants.

The resort fee stuff happened because a few hotels were angry at how much online booking took out of their sales. I remember Sheldon Adelson complaining that Expedia made more money selling Venetian rooms than the hotel itself, and telling any reporter that would listen about how Expedia, Orbitz etc were so flush with money that they had corporate headquarters that made casino companies look dowdy by comparison. So they began hiding more of the room rate in a resort fee so that the rate quoted for Expedia/Orbitz/Travelocity/etc was lower, and thus the booking agency skim was lower.

Some hotels tried not doing the resort fee thing, but because of that they were always higher priced than the hotels that advertised $19 a night with a $65 resort fee. And they always had lower occupancy rates because people kept falling into the trap. They eventually gave in and did the same thing. Much like 6:5 Blackjack, it dominates because people kept choosing convenience over advantage when there was still a choice to be made.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 15, 2024

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