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I am going to Vegas June 27-30 and staying at MGM. Is the games there still pretty soft? Its been a couple of years since I've been.

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Vegas' Most Beloved Restaurant

Lotus of Siam
953 E. Sahara Ave -- 702-735-3033 [site] [map] [menu]

It gets mentioned in literally every Vegas thread, and for good reason. If that's the case, why am I talking about it here? Simple. I lived in Thailand for almost two years. I've eaten at all the tip-of-your-tongue Thai places in New York City. I know Thai food. And Lotus of Siam is loving remarkable. Let me make a detour for a couple of paragraphs to help you understand why.

There are roughly four regional cuisines in Thailand. They aren't as strictly segregated as the Chinese regional cuisines are, it's just not part of the Thai national character to remain insular or not enthusiastically adopt something that's interesting like it is with most mainland Chinese, but none the less there are four distinctive types of cuisine. The first is Southern Thai -- it's signature dish is probably Massaman Curry, a brownish, savory curry that does well with beef -- Southern Thai food is spicy, mysterious, and full of intense oceanic flavors and hints of fermented sauces. The second is Northern Thai -- a mostly mountainous region with fantastic sausage, a particular love of a certain kind of Plaa Raak (a fermented fish condiment), and a love of a variety of citrusy aggressive herbs like lemongrass and mint and particular attention to contrast in the flavors and textures in the cuisine, the signature dish of the North is probably Kao Soi, a comfort food of chicken and curried noodles meant to take the bite out of the occasional cool misty morning that only occurs in Thailand far to the north and high in the mountains. Third is Issan, the North-Eastern region of Thailand which is home to Thailand's rice farmers and hard working country people -- it's flavors rely on lime, garlic, salty fish sauce and raw chili as the elevating aspects of unripe fruit salads (the divinely unique near-national dish of Thailand -- Som Tam) or minted meat salads (Larb) and the lovingly prepared local barbecue (Gai Yang, etc) that fuels all of the taxi drivers and shop workers in the capitol, all usually eaten with a particular kind of glutenous sticky rice. Fourth is Central Thai, both a sophisticated mix of the the three regions with an additional Indian influence tempered by the occasional appearance of simplicity rather than complexity in the food, Central iterations include Tom Yum Goong, Thailand's true national dish, an intensely pungent and frequently atomically hot soup of prawns and incomparably assertive herbs, often served along side a simple breaded and fried whole fish covered with a tangy sauce with limes dropped into the slashes in its sides (Pla Rad Prig).

So why the deviation into the regional cuisines of Thailand? It's simple. If you grow up Thai you grow up eating the food of your area and you develop an implicit understanding of what makes it great -- and that understand is crucial to being able to truly prepare the dishes of your region. What this means is that really great Khao Soi is only found in the North. Massaman curry at it's peak is only in the South, and if you want the almost prehistoric flavors of Issan food it's not enough to hit a roadside cart in Bangkok, but instead you have to go up to Nakonratchasima ("Khorat") to get the real thing. I was always surprised by this when I lived in Thailand -- but really, I shouldn't have been. You can't get the kind of barbecue they do in the Carolinas in Santa Fe, and if you want the kind of green chili you find in Santa Fe you can't find it even in New York City. In fact, there's only one place I've ever eaten where you could have the real, learned-in-the-blood tastes of more than one region of Thailand's cuisines, and that's Lotus of Siam, in Las Vegas, Nevada.

When I visited the website the first thing I saw was a picture of the chef and from her facial features I assume she's Northern Thai, and her menu offers true Northern Thai items. When I ate at Lotus of Siam I made it a point to order several Issan dishes as well, so hard to find outside of Thailand, and they were all absolutely on point. In fact, the site for Lotus of Siam states that they specialize in Issan cuisine. The central Thai dishes as well (scallops in a brownish sauce which I've since forgotten the name of, the Tom Yum soup already mentioned) tasted like they taste in the streets of Bangkok. I was astonished -- even in Thailand I'd never found a restaurant that could turn out three regions of cooking on one table. Imagine going to one restaurant in Minnesota and getting the kind of simple, naturally sweet clams you only otherwise find in Gloucester, served right next to a barbecued pork shoulder from Georgia, and, astonishingly enough, a slab of the kind of perfection in a rib eye steak that you only get when a Nebraskan rancher lets you in at the family table after he's had slaughtered a select cow from his own herd.

That's what makes Lotus of Siam special. I don't know how they can do so many different things so well, and the body of knowledge present in that kitchen to produce the food they produce at the level and authenticity that they do is astonishing to me. It's several worlds of Thai food all brought together, seemingly without compromise, in one place. And all of this at ten or so bucks a plate.

Print out a map before you go, it's not on the strip and your taxi driver may not know the way. If you're going during peak lunch or dinner times be sure to call ahead for reservations as well. Don't be put off by its location in the middle of a weird strip mall, it's really only a matter of time before some casino baron brings it under his roof and jacks the prices up to five of six times what they are now. If you want to pair wine with your Thai you'll probably want something sweet to pair off with the spice in many of the dishes you'll be trying, and lucky for you Lotus has a really impressive selection of appropriate Rieslings.

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Recommended dishes for someone looking to move beyond Pad Thai:

Northern: Khao Soi (curried chicken noodles), Sai Oua (regional pork sausage), Nam Prik Het (Mushroom Chili Dip, traditionally eaten with veggies)

Central: Tom Yum Goong (intensely aromatic soup), Pla Laad Prik (sauced fried whole fish), Seared Scallop (choose the garlic cilantro sauce option)

Issan: Larb Moo (pork meat salad), Som Tam (green papaya salad), Tub Wan (litearlly "sweet liver", this is a delightful Issan style beef liver dish, which is not actually sweet but sour and citrusy and aromatic -- this is one of those things that Thais living in the US crave due to its typical unavailability)

Southern: The only region not expertly represented at Lotus of Siam, still, if you're doing a tour of Thailand the Massaman curry here is solid -- it also happens to be an excellent gateway Thai dish if you have your racist Grandpa along and he's apprehensive of anything that's not a hamburger with fries

Things to not order: The following dishes are excellent at Lotus, but you can get them at literally any other Thai restaurant out there and, if you're visiting Vegas, I would suggest you go after the really rare and special things available at Lotus rather than the common farang (foreigner) favorites. As such, please, don't waste valuable space in your stomach on:

Pad Thai, Pad See Ewe, or Drunken Noodles (in the words of my longterm Thai girlfriend, who's a waitress right now, "It's not a loving noodle party")

Eschew the Chicken Satay and any Fried Rice of any sort

Don't hunt for some kind of bizzaro egg roll or potsicker. They do make dumplings in Thailand but really both of these are Chinese items, not Thai, and as such it's almost impossible for someone who doesn't already know Thai food to pick the one dumpling on the menu that's there because it's Thai instead of because it's what farang keep asking for.

I'm sorry, but Green Curry isn't some secret Thai dish that will make the waitstaff recognize you as a Thai expert -- every son of a bitch that's spent a weekend on Samui orders that. Similarly, Cashew Chicken isn't some kind of secret Thai password.

Dessert. Thai people don't usually have a separate dessert item, and when they do it's a fairly disappointing shaved ice with coconut cream and beans and jelly drop kind of thing, or just corn with sugar and butter. Fill up on entrees and salads and soups instead. If you insist on desert, go for the mango with sticky rice, I guess -- just watch out for the rock hard corn things on top, they're authentic but they're also a serious threat to your teeth.

Go a little exotic, get a little grotty, and really take advantage of the fantastic opportunity that an hour or two at Lotus actually is. One final thing I really should mention: Thai people don't use chopsticks unless they're eating noodle soup. So unless you're eating noodle soup the authentic thing to do is to just go ahead and use your fork and spoon.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2011 23:01

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WouldDesk posted:

And please do not buy one of those 3 foot tall sugar infested margaritas. They get disgusting after a few sips.

For first timers its like law to buy one so they can take a Facebook picture.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2011 00:19

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Craptacular! posted:

Spring and fall are definitely the good times. Winter is bad because it's still super dry, and then the hotels crank up the heaters which dries it out further. This means static shocks on all kinds of metal as well as waking up to dried out sinuses and bloodied noses, etc.

Everything is pretty much covered but I will say that you do not have to worry about any of this unless you make Meg's wannabe boyfriend from Family Guy look like Danny Ocean.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2011 06:53

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2 weeks until I'm in Vegas. I don't know why I get so excited for the place, I go couple times a year except this time will be about a year since my last time.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2012 18:19

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von Manstein posted:

Sigma Derby was gone at MGM when I was down there about a monthe ago..there's one at The D downtown.

Must have happened recently. I was there in July and played it. drat thing was getting too popular. Middle of the week and most of time I went by there the thing was full and no one would leave.

Looks like the best place to get drunk cheap now is the beanbag game at Hooters but its not gambling.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2012 17:13

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Koaxke posted:

I'm in the process of reading through this thread, but since I need to make a reservation sometime soon I figured I would ask for some advice.

Some friends and I plan on going to Vegas during the second week of March. We're all guys in our early 20s so we'll be doing the typical Vegas gig of gambling, etc. I am looking at staying in either the Tropicana or MGM. I've heard great things about MGM, but the reviews of the Tropicana that I've read online are mixed. So first off, what is everyone's opinion on the Tropicana?

If I do end up staying at the MGM I could either get a room with a king, or for $80 more I could end up with a suite. Would it be worth it to spend the extra dough and just stay at MGM, or should I save the $200 and just stay at the Tropicana and spend it on food or shows or whatever, even if it is a worse hotel ?

Its your first time in Vegas so you will barely be in your room. Just enough for shower and a nap. A basic room at either will be fine.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2013 22:58

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I don't get it either. I went to a bachelor party weekend a couple years ago and all 3 guys I went with brought less than $200 each for the 3 days we would be there. This included food and pitching in for the rooms. Yeah, I had fun walking the strip when I was 13 coming to Vegas with my parents. I like doing big boy things now. Talk your friends on doing something else. You will quickly grow tired of everyone broke complaining they can't do anything.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2013 22:12

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revmoo posted:

How in the world are drinks in Vegas expensive? I've spent eight bucks on a Red Bull but I've never spent a dime on actual alcoholic drinks.

Because you are gambling. You need money to gamble and if their friends are broke then they won't be doing much of that. Especially since they are going for a bachelor party so they are more than likely not wanting to be sitting at a casino bar playing Video Poker all night to get drunk.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2013 17:25

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Also, this is for his parents. I'm sure they don't want to be staying in the rooms at the Quad. That was fine when you're 22 and looking to stay cheap as possible but if you're over 30 and looking at $20 hotel rooms then you might want to look at other destinations.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2013 06:24

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Spring Break has started, also. I've been getting stuff like crazy from MGM about their pool being open for it and come party.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2013 17:10

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GregNorc posted:

I'm driving to California for an internship, and already have a detour planned in Albuquerque . Are there any decent places to stay that are ≤75/ night? (If it was within a casino that'd be nice, but I'll take a cheap hotel w/o one over a place in a crappy casino full of creepy folk)

I figured I could drive in from Albuquerque, get no frills room, maybe play a couple hands of poker or something rather than watch lovely basic cable, then head home.

For reference, when I went to Defcon I used to go play blackjack at Circus Circus, I'm not a high roller, and don't need anything fancy.

What day are you going to be Vegas? If its Sun-Thurs then you'll have a lot of options. Fri-Sat not so much. Just start hitting up casino websites on the day you plan being there and check prices. The prices vary greatly week to week depending on what's going on so I can really just say go here since one day a place will be $60 and a week later the same room is $100 because of some huge convention and its spring break.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2013 19:31

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GregNorc posted:

Yeah I'll hit there Sunday or Monday most likely. I think I'll check rates the night before and decide based on that I guess... are there any good casinos that have low table minimums? (Or just decent breakfast places that aren't crazy overpriced?)

(As you can probably tell, I know nothing about Vegas aside from the little I picked up at Defcon)

Sorry I worded that wrong. I meant just go to different websites now and check the pricing for the day you planning on being there, not to check on the day you're there. You can get an idea now. If you have a good week you get some place like NYNY or MGM for around that price weeknights which includes Sunday. You won't find cheap table games there. Walk across the street to the Trop and you can find $5 games. Also you can walk middle strip to some of the smaller casinos and get smaller limit games, too.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2013 03:39

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GregNorc posted:

Is it safe to take my DSLR out on the central strip at night?

Why would you think it wouldn't be?

# ¿ May 5, 2013 05:32

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Just park in a huge casino parking garage. You can leave your car there forever and no one would be the wiser.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 08:10

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relish_fetish posted:

I have some tickets for AFI at house of blues this Saturday and can not go, just looking to get face value if anyone is in need let me know. I am willing to trade as well. Will meet, I live close to 215 and flamingo.

You might have better luck here. It's for Goons that live in Vegas.

# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 19:27

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r0ck0 posted:

Going to vegas with my girlfriend the weekend of dec 14-17. I looked into seeing Cirque du Soleil O but they are on vacation that week. I've seen a Soleil show before so not too wild about seeing another unless its really amazing. What would the next best show that is playing that weekend? Or instead of a show what would be something else similar to a "show" that we could do? We aren't going to be gambling or drinking and I don't even know why we are going other than I've never been. What is something that is totally awesome and only in vegas? thanks

What do you like to do? You're going to a place and don't plan on doing what the place is known for. An idea of what you guys like to do would help. That's like going to Disneyland and wanting not to see anything Mickey Mouse. That said, go see Absinthe.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2013 19:26

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Were you doubling up on the bonuses or something? Its pretty hard to drop $100 in half an hour playing at a $10 Pai-Gow table.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2013 23:13

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illcendiary posted:

What are table limits like on the strip at NYE? Treasure Island, to be specific.

I haven't played at TI for years but most tables on the strip start at $10 but you can find $5 tables if you look hard enough.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2013 05:57

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Spike McAwesome posted:

$10 is a stretch on weekends and holidays. You're looking at $15 minimum. Probably more like $25.

I totally glanced over the NYE part. Its probably going to be $25 the whole strip.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2013 08:57

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JaySB posted:

Your organizer is dumb for picking Tryst of all clubs, the rest is pretty much correct. You're really getting a decent price as normally for table service it's about 1 bottle per 3-4 people. Bottles typically start around $500 + tax and tip. It's the busy season here in Vegas now as all the pool parties are set to open and it's Spring Break for the college kids.

Holy poo poo. Congrats on the final table.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2014 00:28

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I'm not a public pool person but my girlfriend and her friends loved the MGM lazy river.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 20:10

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Mlife also has a Facebook slot machine game where you can accrue loyalty points. With them you can get anything from free buffets, drinks, credit for restaurants, room discounts, or even free nights. I play pretty casual over the last year and my points have added up enough where I will save quite a bit money if I wasn't saving up for 1,000,000 points. I got my friend in it about 6 months ago and he plays more than me where he has already surpassed me by a lot.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2014 19:08

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humidity posted:

Yeah, you're telling me! Haha About $50/guy might be a little steep for some of my friends but I'll definitely let them know. Thanks for the info! Much appreciated!

Don't go to a club. If that's steep you guys will freak out inside.

# ¿ May 1, 2014 18:27

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kri kri posted:

Whats the closest liquor store to mgm signature? Staying there this weekend after getting snowed out in April.

I never stayed in Signature so I have no idea where there entrance is compared to normal MGM or if they use the regular ones but there an AM/PM on Trop and an actual liquor store up the strip that's not a bad walk. They do sell booze in the gift shops of the casino but it's at a premium.

# ¿ May 29, 2014 02:38

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A poo poo load of alcohol cures everything. Just sayin.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 07:37

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TheReverend posted:

Yeah man. Two months ago the wife and I got, 50 bucks in food at Monte Carlo, 2 shark reef passes, 2 ice bar passes, 50 bucks in slot play,entry to a slot tournament,bogo passes to the secret garden,2 premium passes to Zarkana..... It's worth it. I paid 0 dollars for all of that.

I'm mad they got rid of the 1,000,000 coin Bellagio Fountain song. I wanted to see what song I could get away with.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 21:42

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Cockmaster posted:

I've been looking into heading to Vegas this spring, and I've been studying poker strategy some. Are there any particularly good places and/or times to milk compulsive gamblers at the poker table?

You mean the private tours they mention on their website?

And their Facebook page has a post from last August implying that they're on track with the upgrades they'll need to fully reopen, but no updates since.

I'd certainly pay for a private tour if I have to - they're the main non-gambling thing I'm interested in.

Have you played poker before?

# ¿ Jan 11, 2015 04:32

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A tiger in the bathroom is extra though.

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Minty Swagger posted:

Would the private tour be less valuable if it was just like 2-3 people going? As in is it "pretty fuckin cool" split 10 ways or is it still worth it with a couple?

Are you willing to pay $125 to get your picture taken with a kangaroo for the Facebook cred?

# ¿ Mar 20, 2015 21:51

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Minty Swagger posted:

Perfect, thanks! Sounds like its worth it either way. Weird their site is so out of date, implying they arent doing any level of tours at all.

.....Yes.

Well then go for it. It's not like you can hang out with some crazy rear end animals just anywhere. If they can somehow integrate full auto weapons without harming the animals in any way the place would print money.

Their website is misleading. They do say they have private tours but it's below the closing notice so anyone who has read a website since the Geocities days will think the place is completely closed. They need to get someone other than Cousin Eddie to be their Web Designer.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2015 00:42

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FaceEater posted:

PM sent. One week til the trip. Hope that heat wave keeps rolling along out there.

High 80s a heat wave lol. You're off about 40 degrees for a Vegas heat wave.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2015 05:19

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Every person I see on a Segway this week I am going to scream about the stairs in their house.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2015 04:01

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Went to the pinball hof and Black Hole is out of order. Why even be open?

# ¿ Mar 31, 2015 22:18

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Sheep-Goats posted:

How is that interactive CSI thing at MGM? Bad? Real bad? Surprisingly not bad?

Did it a few years ago. You just look at crime scenes, write poo poo down, and process the 'evidence' in your lab. I went through 2 of the 4 scenes in less than an hour. It was so unmemorable that I really can't offer anymore info on it.

I am bummed that I forgot my Official CSI Forensics Investigator Certificate at the hotel though.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2015 21:35

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I never visit the pools while in Vegas but other than MGM which hotels have lazy rivers?

# ¿ May 6, 2015 18:11

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JaySB posted:

Mandalay, I think Mirage, Golden Nugget, maybe Flamingo...Monte Carlo does for sure. I'd assume basically most MGM Mirage properties at this point.

Awesome, thanks.

# ¿ May 7, 2015 01:57

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Trillest Parrot posted:

Very important: what's the best/cheapest way to get to In-n-Out from Fremont St. if I don't have a car?

The closest is Charleston and Nellis, I think? Should be a quick bus ride. Alternative is take the Duece to the strip so you have something to do after eating.

# ¿ May 22, 2015 17:54

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Insane Totoro posted:

She's married to a goon. Her expectations are already low.

Oh hey I totally missed that there was a sweet rate at the MGM Grand too. I remember that hotel somehow having a meh reputation before. It seems to be better now on Tripadvisor. Can anyone confirm?

I like staying at MGM. The rooms are fine but it's at the southend of the strip. It has a monorail but it's a bit of a walk. If she is really hating walking then I would suggest just staying mid-strip. All the walking you'll be doing to the monorail is to the back of properties and unnecessary. All that walking there could be spent on the strip looking at stuff you want to see. PH is located in the middle of everything and pretty modern compared to the others. I've never stayed there though, just played poker.

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Insane Totoro posted:

Ooh good tips. That's kinda nutty you can drink for that "little" but hey

Do poker bars (like in Atlantic City) still exist in Vegas where you can sit and play video poker (the wifey likes it) and basically void your wallet pain (with top shelf liquor) as she spins the thingies?

Every casino bar has video poker. If you play them you can get free drinks. Some places have minimum bets you need to do for free drinks but most bartenders don't care. Necessarily won't be top shelf but it's a cheap way to get drunk.

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