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Riot.EXE posted:Okay, real talk...every time I've ever heard Garage and 2-step style music, I've loved it...but I don't know enough about the major players in those genres, and I don't have enough of that stuff in my life. SO! Who on earth should I be checkin' out when it comes to this stuff? The links in the OP are really good for a general outline of the scene. This mix has a lot of classic 2-step stuff http://soundcloud.com/benji-b/groove-chronicles-recorded EZ is the biggest name in the scene and his mix CDs are supposed to be excellent but I'm too cheap to buy them so I can't really say. Do you mean garage as a whole or just the UK stuff?
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infinity2005 posted:I thought it was a weird number to get pressed as well... can't remember where i saw it said. Judging by discogs numbers it looks like the sort of numbers for a slightly limited release at least, there's a lot of 'wants' if it's not at all hard to get right? And none for sale. It was definitely a smaller limited run. It's also been out for over a year so there's probably not too many extras still kicking around. But they had em in stock for a few months at least. It might have just taken a while to catch on. Anyway, BRVIP002 is up on the store and according to them limited to 150 copies. Get it while you can!
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Bassline is awesome, this is one of my favorite tracks ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqvhVcWjdY0 And You Wot is so cheesy but so great. Along those lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ael1v5idR40 this ones really been growing on me (over-exposure from Rinse breakfast shows probably helped). Feels like a total throwaway pop track but it's cool to hear Wiley on a housey tune and hearing him admit theres dances he can't do is so different than the normal Wiley braggadocio. It's also cool to hear the grime guys doing housey stuff. On top of that BBK track that came out a month or two ago, the Butterz guys and Faze Miyaki have been playing 130 stuff, sort of weird grimey-housey-breaky stuff kinda like Lil Silva meets Zinc and the Night Slugs guys are in similar territory with the grime and bmore influenced stuff they've been doing recently. http://soundcloud.com/nightslugs/l-vis-1990-in-the-mix-for-b Here's a great L-Vis 1990 mix from last week I thought the Deep House/Garage thing coming back might have been kind of a dead end for the scene with like the Hessle guys heading over to house and techno but it seems like the weird innovation's coming back.
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:I like the single though, both tracks kinda wear their influences on it's sleeve but I can dig that. Contemporary Dubstep that's managed to keep up to date by hoovering up more recent musical developments instead of just half-step plod plod for the deep heads could've been made in 2006. Yeah that was kind of my reaction- this is what I expected to happen 1 year or two ago. Bout time- I really liked both sides of that and it's got an energy I felt like had been missing recently. Basic Chunnel posted:TBH I'm not real big on the Keysound Recordings-type trend but I trust Pinch as a curator and I've been waiting for a cool wax-only label, because I'm a show off but also because I feel like Swamp81 hasn't dropped anything exciting for awhile. I'm also all about the Keysound stuff and Beneath though, feels to me like what I hoped Swamp81 would turn in to.
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Speaking of Disclosure actually, Martin Clark has some thoughts on it all. I got to say I half forgot the actual article itself and got more engrossed in the comments. It's been a while since I've seen more than the odd one or two stick their oar in, even Elijah contributes. Personally I'm 50/50 on the article. Some things I dig, some maybe not so much. I liked the post, though I missed the comments the first time around. The techy house/housey techno part really rung true, a lot of what's big in bass these days sounds really boring and sterile to me, even if it's accomplished. And the part about it sounding like stuff from 20 years ago. Todd Edwards said the same thing in an interview recently, though with a much more positive spin. I do like Disclosure for a pop act pretty well though, and I bet they could make quality underground stuff if they tried. The comments, though... People are serious about techno. Elijah's post is great. edit: This is awesome http://soundcloud.com/el-b-ghost/disclosure-boiling-feat-sinead JamesKPolk fucked around with this message at 09:46 on May 21, 2013 |
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Mike_V posted:That jackin' stuff is weird because I always thought it was just a straight up revival of 80s house but it isn't? Me too, though I realized I've been hearing it a lot here and there on Rinse recently. I hope it makes its way over to the states. I like it a lot better than the housey tech/techy house that's big here- it's a lot more fun.
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May 29, 2013 20:16
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:The mix also reminds me that Funkystepz still don't get anywhere near the love they should. I was thinking this listening to Kode9's essential mix the other day. What happened! Also this is the cheesiest thing to say but I've been checking out the 2:31 podcasts after reading that guardian article and they're pretty rad. It's great summer music and I love hearing old hardcore/jungle samples popping out of a tune.
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:I got to admit one of the the biggest laughs I got about that Blackdown article was when someone mentioned you probably hear Wookie/Battle getting played more now than you ever did 10+ years ago, and that's saying something! Wasn't it the Exemen remix of Little Man? Jumped out at me cause I really do hear that one a lot. You could make the case for either one though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnmHAo-Jetk Recent favorite from the 2:31 show, I like how you can hear the old skool influences without it taking over the track and making it sound dated.
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Ah poo poo so it was! It was too early to think clearly man! Anyway I don't even know why that's become a favourite recently. Well I mean I get why - it's a classic and it's great! - but I don't get why, if that makes any sense? I don't know if it's just folk picking up an old Pure Garage comp and going that'll do, or if it's because of Sia's popularity has skyrocketed over the past couple of years compared to a decade ago (not gonna lie loved that Flo Rida tune). Oh and speaking of Sia have a Groove Chronicles remix of Taken For Granted I uploaded ages ago. I've wondered that myself- I think it's part momentum and part that it sounds fresher than most of the stuff from that era. Not a diss on 2-step- it's just still very new sounding- like compare to that Jamie XX Far Nearer tune which is around when I first started hearing Little Man more. 28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Now personally I'm waiting for people to pick up on his best Exemen tune, Far East. Oh jeez, this is awesome!
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Jun 5, 2013 20:58
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Sort of the blind leading the blind here but I've been rocking the 2:31 shows on Rinse and I just got a bunch of mixes from Tom Shorterz's soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz If you find anything cool, post it!
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Huge Boiler Room today- Spyro with Hyper and Jon E Cash on right now, Slimzee after, and I missed Bok Bok and Flirta D earlier but I'm gonna look for the download. http://boilerroom.tv/live/ Also, Spooky on the 4th with Elijah in Brooklyn. It's a pretty grimey week for me.
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Yeah I read the schedule backwards hahaha (turns out those numbers are there for a reason) but Bok Bok and Flirta D are on RIGHT NOW and there's noooo reason to miss this
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Also, what's "Classic UKG" to you? Like classic 4x4 stuff sounds different than classic 2-step stuff and even then theres divisions within those groups. For like classic 4x4 garage and to some extent speed garage, you might just not like it- a lot of the cheesiness/faux-soul is part of the appeal (imo anyway). Sorta like Happy Hardcore in that way actually. This song's sort of on the border for me- not say as deep as US Garage but definitely trying to ape that sound a bit and has UK vibe to it, and definitely has SOME soul to it. A lot of the appeal of this earlier 4x4 stuff, to me, is sort of the same as early house/UK acid house- making up for technical skill with pure vibes. Ends up feeling a bit artificial/plasticy but in a cool way (imo). But it all works better if you consider the US influence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnk1JwKOtmc This one's classic and all but really hits the jungle-influenced garage sound well. The bassline/dub effects are on point and I looooove the hats- sorta sounds like hard amen riffs or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqfIvPQ8Dgo And here's a mix from a Speed Garage DJ I caught completely by accident at some kandi hardcore rave in the burbs- it's not "classic" and it leans towards bassline but hearing the stuff mixed helps. https://soundcloud.com/djparallax/thump-a-speed-garage-adventure-mixed-blended-by-dj-parallax About 5 minutes in is a Blue Cantrell remix that like hits all the notes Speed Garage should imo but keeps it really simple. 2-Step though you can hear the jungle influence way easier. On top of the stuff 28GBB linked, if you haven't already, listen to El-B til your ears bleed (a little less 'classic ukg' but still great) and all the ghost folks/associated acts, etc. http://www.dubstepforum.com/topic55164.html is a cool mix. And for the poppier/cheesier side of it, https://soundcloud.com/benji-b/groove-chronicles-recorded is a great "classic" 2-step mix. It helped the poppy-cheesey stuff click for me with the MC and crowd noise. Also try listening outside on a sunny summer day, it makes a difference. Warning: very late 90's/ early 00s pop sounding and some of it would go off in a boardroom. Also a lot of the garage hour shows on Rinse recently have been pretty good, see if there's a DJ you like that did one. The Brackles and Scratcha ones stood out to me though they're 2-step focussed and the Tom Shorterz one was good if you like the 2:31 stuff, and more 4x4.
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Stone Cold, just loving... words can't describe. No matter how many times I've heard it over the years it still sets me off. I can remember buying this for way too much money back in the day, before it got re-issued. For real. Ugh I still go and look it up on discogs every 6 months or so. Still too expensive these days even with the reissue unless theres some version I can't find but if I ever see it under 30 dollars I'm pouncing. 28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Garage is definitely something that works amazing and doubly so during the summer. It's pretty much all I've been listening to during this heatwave. Speaking of 'Classic' UKG of the non-2-Step or Speed variety, here's a great Jason Kaye tape from the legendary Sun City dances from '97. You wanna see how poo poo really works check dis. Away out in the sun and dance, taps aff! Hahaha I was listening to this exact youtube like 3-4 weeks ago, right around when summer finally hit New York. It's crazy but it really works so much better when the weather's right. I love a good host MC.
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Oh, duh. Completely forgot how I found it the first time- that explains it! And whoa! Glad I said something, obviously I need to spend more time digging through DNR hahaha. Are they official or bootleg? I don't really care personally, but some of their stock seems almost too good to be true (I thought this the last time I bought from em but the records were fine when they came in). Or maybe I just think of garage 12s as way rarer than they are or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33IGVcaeWs0 Here's a cool grimey UKG track (right on that turning point) I found by accident cause I was looking for the one it sampled. It's also the first track on this amazing dark garage/early grime mix by Bok Bok (tons of rad vocals on there too including R U Double F): http://guppyslim.tumblr.com/post/30676660694/ranchobumpy-blogariddims-29-69-allstars-mixed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVan0uS7Aks Heres the song I actually wanted, great classic 4x4 UKG. https://soundcloud.com/tom-shorterz/tom-shorterz-four-2-the-floor And here's a mix with that song in it by one of the 2:31 guys, retrospective and all but it's got some cool tracks and a slightly different vibe than most of the older sets playing this stuff.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:49
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Got an old Grime/Dubstep track ID question- it's from the beginning of that Kode9/Wiley mix that was on Fact a while back, like 6 minutes in, mixes out of 9 Samurai into it. There's some FM percussiony sounds in the beginning and a vocal sample that goes "Forever" and then the main sequence has these violin samples, starts out with long pad type sounds then into arpeggios, with machine gun sounding hats and actual machine gun samples. I'll put up a clip on youtube if anyone thinks that would help. Thanks in advance!
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Calenda's Forever? Also on his Dubstep Allstars CD from a billion years ago. YES that's the one! Thank you! Sounds soooo much better without the bass clipping.
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Rude Kid's recent ones have been nutttts. The Midnight Request Line flip was insane and the one with all the JME samples was deadly. I like the devil mix but it's not on the same level. Plus you can't respond to two sends with one dub!
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Yohan Kebab posted:If you were about for grime in 02/03 you'd know that dub is way stronger. Rude Kid's done better overall I'll admit, Skream's other two dubs aren't great. Really? I mean I wasn't listening to grime in 02/03 but I listen to a lot of 02/03 grime and I like devil mixes and stuff. Am I missing something? I liked Skream's a lot, don't get me wrong, but Rude Kids had so much more going on and imo it works way better as a war dub. Definitely don't agree with this though: b0red posted:to bad it's not very good
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Sep 17, 2013 22:29
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Yesssss, I completely gave up after not hearing anything for months (like with that Ghetto Kyote repress). Still mad about that repress not happening.
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air- posted:^^ "robotic fart noises" - not quite the music/scene for this thread. Not to spoil the magic but that Hessle night was definitely better than most. Output absolutely nails some nights but it depends a lot on the crowd/what's playing. Also, Butterz VIP003 is up on the new store they're launching: http://www.jamzclub.org/
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baltimoron posted:No deep bass shows ever come through DC, all this brostep is bringing me down. Yeah they do. Look harder. "deep bass shows" probably isn't gonna get you anywhere though.
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New Manix just came out, very true to the 90-92 sound (down to flipping some well known samples from those times). Definitely grab it if that's your thing. It's awesome in a would-stand-up-then kind of way. My personal favorite on the first listen (but I love piano tunes): Manix- Rave Fantasy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3h3RXspFEo
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get out of fyad posted:Is there any dubstep song where the voice samples that they use before the drop are something horrifying, like sound clips of murders, that 9/11 phone call, etc? Been hunting around youtube for a bit but naturally it's hard to search for. If it doesn't HAVE to be dubstep, check out like Gabba/other dark hardcore techno, they're all about that stuff. Also Darkside/darkcore rave (92-3ish breakbeat stuff... Reinforced/Early Metalheadz etc). 31 Seconds by Andy C literally samples people describing near-death experiences (though it doesn't sound that dark overall). If it does, good luck, but check out those big Shambala Excision mixes from a few years ago and who ends up on those. I can't think of anything specific but it's probably a good starting place.
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Oct 29, 2013 03:51
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Treytor posted:I need help identifying a song. I know I've heard it before and it's driving me nuts that I can't remember what it was called. I'm not positive what you meant but this is what I heard in the sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmoan734E9w I think they were back to back on a mix I was listening to a lot then. But I didn't hear another track in the video you posted, and what I heard of that one sounded like the original- what part did you mean specifically?
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Treytor posted:No, that's not it. The url I posted has a time link in it. I'm talking about the dirty bass hitting around 3:54. I'm totally lost, then- that bass part sounded like more of the same track to me (it comes in around 3:09 as far as I can tell). Good luck though!
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Those both rule, UTTU's been putting out good stuff recently.
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Number Two Stunna posted:I didn't think his album was terrible, but man, the hype for Joker totally dropped off after that. This is pretty cool, though. I like it a lot! I was really underwhelmed- I think part of it was the "main" release had vocals on everything and they weren't very good. There was an instrumental one too but they didn't push it as much. This is cool though and I liked the Sega Genesis thing he did not too long ago. Speaking of video game tunes, here's the Metal Gear Solid 3 theme song remix he did that's wayyyyy better than you'd think reading that description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RadZTuZEKlM
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Number Two Stunna posted:I thought most of Joker's stuff from before the album was incredible and mind-blowing when it first came out. Digidesign, Gully Brook Lane, Purple City, Tron, Do It, were all really amazing and original tunes that are highlights of the original UK dubstep scene for me! I agree, the problem with the album was that the vocals were bad, but the instrumental versions didn't have enough to them to work on their own either. Anyway, I think it's kind of neat that he's sticking with that 140bpm halfstep kind of sound even though it's become very, very unfashionable in recent years. Totally with you on all of that- those tracks were incredible when they were coming out (and I think they aged better than most of the half-step 140 stuff) and I really wanted the album to all be on that level. Actually, thinking about it, the new EP sounded much fresher than I thought it would considering he's still doing the 140 thing. Most stuff in that sound just sounds so dated to me, even if its only been a few years. 28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Having not heard that older Joker stuff since it came out, I seem to remember the vocal tracks annoying me as they had gently caress all in the way of a proper loving chorus. At least I think that's what I remember saying at the time. I talk bollocks though so who the gently caress knows. Wonder if it came out a year later if he could've ridden that Jessie Ware hype. I'm kinda glad he missed that wave, come to think of it- I didn't hate the Let Me Breathe instrumental but if I was hearing it as much as the Disclosure stuff this year that'd change pretty fast. Plus if the crossover thing had gone well we might be listening to previews of his upcoming Disco/Deep House EP instead.
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Mike_V posted:New Egyptrixx LP is advance-streaming now: http://pitchfork.com/advance/292-ab-til-infinity/ He did a mix for them not too long ago with some of his new stuff on it. I've had it on repeat all month, it's really solid. http://nightslugs.net/tag/mix/ On the techier side as far as NS stuff goes but it seems like it'd be up your alley. I can't stop listening to that Hysterics song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU6qcXoXx0w), and I really like the blend from it into Water ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qst3kQmSCGI)
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Hey I've got a UKG track ID question, it was from the DJ Haus Garage Hour on Rinse today, around 18 minutes in. It's a pretty straight forward 4x4 tune with organ trumped and square bass that samples this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKeBGBrc8o (Another Level-Be ALone No More) but way pitched up: "No I know,/You wanna be alone" "I feel the same" "and I'll always love you" "It hurts so bad/when I can't hold you". Anyone know what it's called?
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:Didn't hear the show, but possibly it's the Ray Hurley mix of that (there was a good couple of mixes of it though, the most famous being that RIP groove kinda mash-up thing). Not heard it in many a year though - probably due to the fact I always hated Another Level and Dane loving Bowers - but Hurley tended to work on the 4/4 side of things. Don't think I've even got it myself to upload for you. Thank you! It's the Anthill Mob mix which came up via an ebay link searching for the Ray Hurley one. Searching last night, anything like "Be Alone No More Speed Garage" or Another Level Speed Garage" just turned up that RIP Groove mashup which made me think it was probably some weird-titled cheeky bootleg or something. Kind of surprised it's an official remix, it's pretty stripped down compared to the original. Still can't find the song by itself on youtube or anything but it's the first one in this mix if anyone wants to hear what I'm talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SMdiyWEQWQ
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Charlotte Hornets posted:The first part of River Dealer reminds me of the Big Beat era but a bit rougher and dirtier. Think Prodigy, Leftfield, Chemical Bros. It's called "hardcore" and there are some really good posts about the history of it linked from the OP of this thread! Give them a read, if you liked Rival Dealer (and early Prodigy) you might really be in to it!
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:New Pinch & Mumdance on Tectonic. Now I know they've been floating about on dub for a wee while now, but wuft, Turbo Mitzi is a total banger. Ice cold hardcore stormer from which I keep on picking up the ghost of a Unique 3 record. Pick it up. Gah this has been stuck in my head all week. Such a cool track. Plus I've got a soft spot for tunes named after pills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_367r2SRZb4
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https://soundcloud.com/i-d-online-1/mumdance-i-d-hardcore-mix Hardcore mix by Mumdance with a pretty killer tracklist. Its cool hardcore is getting namechecked by people in the limelight again- I def heard the darkside vibe, if not the tempo/tropes in Turbo Mitzi.
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28 Gun Bad Boy posted:I still say that Rinse lost that bit of edge when it went legal (actually probably from a bit before when they were trying to be legal). It's still one of the best, but that wee spark went out. Though I know folk who say they lost it when they chucked off the Grime guys way back. Nah I totally agree. Not all the shows necessarily (like some people, especially with later slots, held on better than others) but a lot of the stuff determined by management overall, like the stuff they played during downtime overnight, or breakfast show programming, has kinda suffered. Which I guess I noticed a more than others might have (I'm listening late night in the USA, so my perspective's kinda weird). Losing Scratcha didn't help there either. Maybe its better now, I haven't listened too much recently cause the times I'm catching it live haven't been good and there's just less I wanna hear now (I'm not too big on the house/tech/minimal stuff which was all I'd hear a few months ago).
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Speaking of, anyone know what Duke Dumont's sets are like? He's in Brooklyn this month and some friends wanna go but it's at Output so its an expensive night out and I'm not sure it's worth it for an hour or two of new stuff that sounds like his singles.
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The Hola VPN chrome extension is working for me in America. A$AP is booooombing
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Takin me back posting about Butterz vinyl sales in here... But Butterz is doing a 4 for 10 pounds deal, one of their releases plus 3 others from different labels, ending midnight tonight (and almost gone): http://bttrz.bigcartel.com/product/4-x-12-mystery-pack Last time (years back) I got some Earth 616 stuff, another Mood Swings VIP white, and I think an old Oil Gang release (pre-Boxed stuff)- definitely recommended (and a great way to start collecting grime)
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