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What links does breaks have to the scene discussed in this thread? Seems about as relevant as bringing up hard house or something. Trying to suggest that it's a split of midrange and 'downtempo' is just loving stupid, as if you can't have dancefloor tracks which are not solely obnoxious midrange. There's loads of 12" releases on actual record labels each week intended for dancefloor play; even if you don't like subbass focused tracks there's tons of choice, you don't have to listen to Burial or whatever. Like if you like kinda breaksy stuff: Coleco - Martyr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHU4DpywrA0 D1 - Flood of Emotions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6SYIjULvSk Royal-T - Orangeade VIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Jr9co0t0Q Aquasky - Taken Over Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXwuvjTYLiU Kuedo - Oh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8J7IIwZSXs Killawatt - Sidewinder (Ipman Remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1_J9XJXO2c Om Unit - Vibrations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnD7K7EEiU0 Jon Convex - Bump and Grind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WUgyHw5qU Hudson Mohawke - Thunder Bay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvKAr9qaI1I There's tons of poo poo coming out, if you like music at all i don't know why you'd want to stick to one lovely played out formula. Even if you was only interested in hard dance music and was only interested cause it was 'filthy' there's still more appropriate music anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0GDX_C0oo or hardstyle where they love putting cheesy melodies/vocals too, or hard dnb for non 4/4 stuff.. infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Dec 29, 2011 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 09:19 |
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I downloaded some random breaks compilations recently just since i wasn't familar with it currently and they really sucked. I wanted to like nu-skool breaks since i love hardcore.. but honestly it just sucked too, even if you're objective and ignore the times the tracks were made they were not any better than even crappy hardcore releases in 92. There was something just disagreeable about trying to replicate the sound, it was just wasn't right to me. I only said that Neophyte song because it changes a lot which i guess is some appeal of the midrange stuff rather than actual progression or proper buildups. Personally my favourites are old stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0VF0sVoUZM i'd listen to any hardcore over midrange though, 170 bpm kickdrum is less annoying than those constant random synths
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2011 05:09 |
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Is it just me or is there an absolute shitload of good records out this week? I want everything but it's way too much this time. I picked up SWAMP018, TEC54, DMZ022, SUBWAYDS006, 616009, MLDB003, HES019, FRJ011, VERSION003. But there's 4/5 more i would have done too. Madness.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2012 12:39 |
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Did you notice there's a new Old Apparatus release too, limited to 250 copies. Except it's cassette only..
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2012 17:04 |
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Any in particular? Sped-up house was the usual source, 88-91 stuff re-used (to greater effect a lot of the time imo too) but a lot was just written from scratch. Force and Evolution were apparently about to play their melodies out at 160 BPM on real equipment. Some later ones came from even Eurodance, like Jimmy J - Six Days. The wackiest ones i can think of were Freestyle & DJR - Madness and Force Mass Motion - Panic which were both not sampled or taken.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2012 22:23 |
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The forthcoming Swindle release on Deep Medi is nuts, not heard anything like this.. A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzpfdMrgA00 B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8U0B1rJ1G4 And another track not on the release; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETXHAg_8uD
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2012 13:52 |
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UK Bass is just a catch-all term though not a genre. The 4 in the topic plus i'd say techno-influenced, house-influenced and wonky... but even that wouldn't cover everything. Dunno what you'd call something like LOL - Me Me or the Old Apparatus releases. Got the Lone LP coming on tuesday, looking forward to that.. anyone into vinyl should check redeye-records cause some newer LP's are cheaper than the CD release like Distal.
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# ¿ May 7, 2012 08:26 |
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Got that Eprom vinyl coming tomorrow, Rwina is a great label. Hope there's another release from Ratchet sometime, had a decent but unnoticed grime 12" on there last year. Oh to add something else to this post, as Rustie is getting more popular and is kinda a similar sound. Here's a zip of 4 wonky/sqwee and hiphop mashups: http://www.mediafire.com/?tcapp11w8mjbine After i heard Slugabed - Dangerous i thought it sounded kinda ill-fitting and not that good, so tried out some existing tracks/acapella combo's that i thought sounded better, for a mix. Dr Dre - Next Episode, Beastie Boys - Ch-Check It Out, Flowin' Prose and Busta Rhymes - Woo-Hah. The other tracks in the comments if you want to know or remake better as these were just quickly done but seemed to fit well. infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 14, 2012 |
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I think it's definitely the techno side of things getting the most critical attention at this point. Every Swamp81 release is hyped more than anything else these days it seems. I think it's an unnecessary discussion at this point completely though, i don't think any one style/sound is particularly blowing up any more than the rest (aside from tear-out which is irrelevent at this point) which is what's so good about following uk bass at the moment. Like last week i got Champion, Julio Bashmore, Blawan, Jon Convex and Kuedo releases and still wanted a few more, and just within those picks is quite a variety. Every now and then something garage-y has popped up and been hyped a fair bit (like Dauyd or however it's spelt as well last year). But no one sound is being picked up and taking an unfair share, from my perspective as someone who only picks up vinyl/cd releases at least. If anything it feels like maybe its still branching out even more; someone influential like Mala going the route he is with the Cuban album, i think is certain to encourage even more broadening of styles. I think that and a lot of the other styles are just not the sort of thing people are going to pick up and start all-out copying like tear-out inevitably was going to lead to. As a big fan of breakbeat hardcore 91-93 going in that direction would be really exciting.. especially as you said, when it will be mutated with the rest of the progression over 20 years. It felt really limited back then by the happy/dark split and hhc switching to 4/4; just when some artists seemed to be getting more creative they reverted to very pigeon-holed styles. infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jul 6, 2012 |
# ¿ Jul 6, 2012 16:47 |
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To be clear i didn't mean a direct revival, just as 28GBB stated much better than i could... an emphasis on breaks and the atmospheres/styles of the time being remade with modern influences mixed in. I really thought the various attempted revival tracks sucked to be honest. I'm not very good at explaining what i mean, but there was loads of unique 'atmospheres' and feelings to tracks beyond simply happy/dark and interesting ideas that were never explored to their fullest.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2012 00:01 |
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What's it got to do with the US at all though? My perspective as just a record-buyer admittedly and not able to be immersed in the live scene is that it's just a new generation being exposed to the sound for the first time properly, and things like Khan & Neek - Percy being like the Pulse X of the old days which i understand was a pretty influential tune. I also recommended Club Constructions Vol. 1 and 2 on Night Slugs.. not all exactly all straight grime but i like this style and it's nice for mixing. I noticed this nice release the other day, interested by the Mr Mitch remix: http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=COY001 But i forgot to add it to my order, and was surprised when i check it today its sold out already.. despite being what i thought was likely to stay available. Maybe it was just very limited stock in the first place but i thought it was kinda unusual for a seemingly obscure release selling out so quick, maybe its related to this resurgence?
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2012 08:05 |
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Mike_V posted:I'm going to do a grime-centric set on my radio show this week I think and I need some suggestions for compilations/releases/anthologies. I've got a lot of the heavy hitters, like Terror Danjah's anthology, most of Teddy's stuff, a lot of Preditah's, and the Roll Deep releases. Obviously there are EPs and 12"s in there, but I'd like a focus on larger releases just so I don't have to go grab a bunch of things. My mind went straight to the 100 track pack mentioned. Swindles 2009 album has some nice stuff on. I really don't know much about it though, seemed to be very 12" orientated and lots of white labels? Has anyone got decent grime or garage vinyl collections? Anyone with decent collections and willing to rip i'd like to collaborate with, i'm happy to do all the work after the plain wavs are available. Particularly those genres but all dance/electronic vinyl is good. Been doing this for other UK genres for ages.. some are really well mapped out and available compared to others. Hardcore and particularly dnb are so much more complete just thanks to a few individuals putting the effort in. I'm working with some people who are archiving everything and UK material is woefully underrepresented. Legally since this stuff is all out of print i bet even producers are interested in such collections rather than being against. infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Aug 27, 2012 |
# ¿ Aug 27, 2012 18:38 |
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Mike_V posted:This French blog collected a lot of extant instros but it seems to have stopped updating and megaupload's death made it so that Americans couldn't download from the new hosting: http://thegrimeinstrumentals.blogspot.com/ Ah these http links have really hosed up so much if you are looking for anything remotely obscure that isn't 'officially' ripped.. nice to see some of my bits on there i did but all broken. I'd be up for ripping any collections and sending them back even to get some of the garage/grime better and consistently ripped tagged. Or if anyone wants to provide clean wavs of anything not done from like pre-2006 i'll be happy to do the rest and have a central place for all the contributers to grab what they like from. I'm a bit obsessed with it really haha. But hate to see so much overlooked when it's supposed to be when everything is more easily available than ever.. i just picked up 100 records from a closing down hardcore store for a quid each (and no shipping!) just to make some good copies of. Then i hear about a friend of a friend with 10k italo-disco collection... which is too crazy to think about yet. I have some big plans for future to try and provide out of print vinyl rips in a much better way than currently for people but i'll keep it quiet until i can get it going. I know for sure privately at least friends have already arranged more complete/consistent collections than what you can get literally anywhere else online just hope it can be organized into one.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2012 12:22 |
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SUBFRIES posted:Such a time intensive process. Wish I could just take on an intern to do all the recording, editing and processing. I probably have around 200 dnb, breakbeat and '06~'07 dubstep vinyl ripped, but still need to truncate the recordings, clean up the files and then label them how I like. Probably get it done four years from now. I dropped you a msg on soundcloud about it, maybe we can work on it. There's some nice tools and people willing to spend time to make it all good. the ripping is the real intensive part.. friend of mine used to stay up on amphs all the time spending nights playing hardcore non-stop to get all his done. He still never finished it, someone else to go and bug i reckon
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2012 16:12 |
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I think grime or grime influenced stuff is definitely bigger than it was say 2-3 years ago. Maybe its just more noticeable as labels like Butterz have kinda helped integrate it into the wider uk bass scene. Khan & Neek - Percy/Fierce and stuff on Night Slugs really showed sound is still popular.
infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Oct 8, 2012 |
# ¿ Oct 8, 2012 17:04 |
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The new Randomer is really good: http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=HEK018
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2012 22:39 |
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Hey Basic Chunnel could you drop me an email at engage.new at gmail.com? I lost your email address.. hope i'm talking to the right person since you changed your name. And uh here's some content.. still waiting for this drat record to get in stock on somewhere other than the Hinge Finger store, the Joy O on same label too: Blawan - Why They Hide Their Bodies Under My Garage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mR6zmSTDNE Tastes seem to have gone towards totally 4/4 stuff at the moment..
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2012 19:29 |
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I was checking out all of this weeks samples on chem-recs and noticed one i think might be big unexpectedly: Braiden - Belfry Tower / Paganini on Rush Hour RH044. Seemed really good and first choice along with the obvious DMZ029. Also i got new 3024, Trevino (how many 12"s this guy gonna have this year?) but curiously there's no samples so this should be interesting. If anyone is curious i also a few others i am not familar with based just on samples; Flume on Future Classic, Oscar Barila & Maiki, on Musicistheanswer, and Brassic on Civil Music. Hoping they are as good as they sounded in samples. Also anyone know any other recent disco house/throwback stuff like Sure Thing - Holding You Tight? That is an amazing track.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2012 11:52 |
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Had to make a second order this week when i noticed this one suddenly appear: http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=SHEWORKS004 Surely bound to sell out quick these days, so picked it up quick plus the Breach & Midland repress.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 02:51 |
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Basic Chunnel posted:Kahn & Neek have a grime tape out in pro packaging and that. Eh! I said something about signing them up to Butterz as a joke and Elijah smiled at the comment on FB, that could be cool..
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2012 05:40 |
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air- posted:Distance/Tunnidge/District was totally bonkers. I had no clue that Distance had very massive remixes of some of my favorite tracks (J:Kenzo - Ruffhouse, The Roteks, and Mala - Changes). Kinda lame that the Gritsy folks have these laser lights that were quite distracting, but they turned all that crap off when Distance went in the mix. I think what's not made clear enough is this whole entire thing, edm, trap, 'complextro' (the most made-up fake genre ever surely), is driven by the need for Americans who listen to dance music to forcefully label EVERYTHING. 'EDM' as a term ffs in the first place still annoys me. Why do people want to label themselves and what they like so hard? Is it because so many people got into electronic music so late they want to recreate the whole experience again or something. sorry but it's been around so long already there's already names for things. we don't need tons of new ones. infact we dont need tons of this music being made people just need to go dig back into history more and play old tunes. Nobodies rushing to label the newer scenes/sounds from the UK because it all can be described really. I don't think the US is doing things so unique that it needs labelling constantly. infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Nov 27, 2012 |
# ¿ Nov 27, 2012 18:09 |
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so dubstep US, just a fad on a larger scale than dnb was before it? Shame really. But people are more open to electronic except why do they insist on trying to make their own names for existing poo poo. Like 'complextro' and in a different way trap, like people desperate to have their THING. You have to speak in hushed tones about dubstep like happy hardcore yet? I never know what's up with the US i hear new names every day. You need a vinyl culture so i know wtf to buy or what is good (aside from the few techno/house bits).
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2013 10:23 |
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I don't think he is completely clueless but Warp is one if the oldest biggest reputation electronic labels there is. And if they are an influence then where is it cause i don't hear it. If he mentioned Daft Punk too he'd have the full 'my first electronic music' set. By the way before we derail further with music that should not even be know at all here's the real big news http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=18529 Holy gently caress the lineup. and 7x12" for complete album... yesss
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2013 05:02 |
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Normally i'd agree about the D&B 1 track per side thing but in this case i like it, just makes the whole thing seem a really big project. Anyone else noticed half of the stuff on chemical-records these day seems sold out so quickly? They need to buy more stock or something, it's getting silly. Like their whole techno/house top 10 all the ones i try to buy were out of stock. Or i chose 2 i wanted in one case waited 2 days and then they were sold out. And it's not big well known stuff either.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2013 10:52 |
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That's D.O.K - Chemical Planet on like uh BR003, great remake though. There's a vocal version with Trim on too on the b-side of BR008 (Trim - Notice Now).
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2013 16:33 |
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Oops sorry! I had downloaded it not listened yet hehe. I like mixes with fast track switching its always cool. I thought i heard rumours about a possible Quality Street Vol. 2 with maybe the VIP on, but doesn't seem to be the case for the next release at least. Good idea to keep an eye out on Butterz store since test presses always up early. edit: yeah mix is great :p infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jan 24, 2013 |
# ¿ Jan 24, 2013 21:00 |
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Mike_V posted:Wow, these are some classic Lil Silva sounds. Glad he's back to that after his Club Constructions stuff. Did you not like? I thought they were good tracks albeit basically dj tools. I like that kinda night slugs stuff myself.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2013 06:42 |
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Good release thats out on MP3 tonight: https://soundcloud.com/dark-sky/sets/ndk004-dark-sky-breach B-side reminds me of bassline a lot
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2013 18:01 |
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BRVIP002 came out test press btw, which immediately sold out and i missed.. i think there was only 75 copies of the first one? So best to keep on eye when there's out fully to get.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2013 05:05 |
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I thought it was a weird number to get pressed as well... can't remember where i saw it said. Judging by discogs numbers it looks like the sort of numbers for a slightly limited release at least, there's a lot of 'wants' if it's not at all hard to get right? And none for sale.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2013 16:14 |
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Both are just straight up techno.. some of Blawan's tracks have garagey influences i guess you could say. But it's techno. I guess it gets mentioned in here because simply if you're into the genres mentioned in the thread title then you might well like it too.. and the scenes sort of connect sometimes. Basically it seems like there's more discussion of genres like house/techno in this thread because it feels like that is the direction the whole uk bass thing has gone. Straight up dubstep releases have slowed down heavily, the hyped stuff from a UK perspective seems like house/techno; to me at least. You can see that in dubstepforums.com having a house forum for example. And future garage as a term just seems to be a way to describe lighter tracks while trying to distance itself from dubstep. I don't really want to try and describe the differences further cause i'm not very good at it but probably main thing to point out is those tracks are probably like 128bpm? and have a 4/4 kick.. while dubstep usually is 140 and doesn't.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2013 01:13 |
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So Skrillex did the essential mix tonight, tracklist: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b022dv8x Its interesting kinda. in a good way i think? Edit: let me in on the grime thing too! i can trade like 150 or so garage rips done consistently/correctly.. but grime is impossible to find any it feels like. infinity2005 fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jun 15, 2013 |
# ¿ Jun 15, 2013 03:51 |
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Chump Change is someone on here right? Pretty cool to get a blogpost from Simon Reynolds http://energyflashbysimonreynolds.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/more-retro-rinse.html
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2013 00:25 |
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On the subject of grime I picked up the Tc4 EP on Earth 616 recently, really recommend, good stuff.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2013 08:38 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 09:19 |
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New Mumdance & Logos on Tectonic is insane! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8e4Zg3c1oE
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2013 23:35 |