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Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Purple D. Link posted:

I really just want Doom and maybe the Heretic/Hexen collection though. I already own Quake 1 and the expansions, I don't really care to own Quake II that much, and I get my Quake III fix from Quake Live. I like Wolfenstein fine but it's low priority. Plus I'm trying to save money right now and don't want to spend maybe more than $20 if a sale starts.

I bought id's complete pack for like 22$ on sale. I'd wait a bit, Steam's summer sale is probably starting on the 30th.

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Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Last year I built a DOS based machine for old games, basically:
MS-DOS 6.22
Pentium MMX 200MHz
64MB of RAM
4MB ATI PCI Card (better image quality than the 2MB S3 Trio64 V2DX it replaced)
SoundBlaster 16 + Yamaha MIDI Daughterboard

I've been obviously playing the classic Wolf3D, Doom, Doom II, Duke3D, Blood, Rise of the Triads, Shadow Warrior and Quake, among others.

I'm currently in the process of building a 2001~ era machine:
Windows 98SE
Pentium III Tualatin 1.4GHz
512MB of RAM
128MB AGP GeForce4 Ti4400 and a pair of Voodoo2 12MB in SLI that I pulled from the DOS machine.
Integrated Audio

Aside from the obvious Half-Life, glQuake, Quake II, Unreal Gold, Serious Sam and Deus Ex, do you have any suggestions of FPS from that era? Basically anything from Windows 95 to 2001-2002. I'm also taking suggestions for the DOS PC. :)

Thanks a bunch from a youngin discovering the past.

Olivil fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Aug 8, 2011

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

emoticon posted:

System Shock 1 & 2

e:


Oh poo poo are games from the 90s retro cool now? I feel old :smith:

Added to the list, played SS1!
I don't know I think I'm just an old PC guy in a young body

I like jumpers and IDE drives :(

Though I did play Doom II and Duke3D with my dad in my young days, I had a SNES and a N64 so I missed out on the whole PC thing until 4-5 years ago. So I'm not that young, I just missed out.

edit:

justbread posted:

They never stopped being cool :dukedog:

Also, that's a lot of effort compared to just running dosbox or vmware.

Yeah well I repair vintage computers (C64, Amigas, Atari 8-16 bits, Apple II...) in my spare time, so you could say I'm a hardware guy. Currently studying Electronic Engineering.

VVVVV I'm definitely adding Thief Gold to my list, thanks!

Olivil fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Aug 8, 2011

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Thanks to both of you for the suggestions, sure will try to hunt them out.

It's really fun messing with old PCs, I mean people just give them away and it provides a good sense of how PCs changed since then. :)

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Sombrerotron posted:

Lightsaber is combat is definitely hugely improved in JK2, no question about that, but as someone who's played DF2 online for several years I can assure you that dueling in the latter isn't as clumsy as you might believe. Timing is everything, and when playing against a human opponent there's a lot of pretty careful dodging and feinting involved. Of course, that's all assuming you're playing a game without Force powers; they're fine in SP (although I wouldn't know why you'd ever use Speed in SP lightsaber duels), but in MP they just get in the way of everything else and are prone to infuriating abuse. In my experience that also applies to JK2, though. Still, at least in DF2 fights there's no kick + backstab/roundhouse combinations to ruin everything.

Regardless, does any of this even matter? They're both worth playing, and I was specifically replying to a post requesting suggestions for old FPSs. There's no indication Olivil has already played JK2, either.

I did play Jedi Knight 2 :P but I'll at least try it, I actually have the CD but I never did!

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Starhawk64 posted:

Does anyone here judge an FPS soley by how good or bad their shotgun is?

Is there any other way?

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
The shotgun in Blood is my favorite after Doom's shotgun and super shotgun.

We should make a top 10!

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
I recently put back together a DOS PC with the following specs:

Pentium 200 MMX
32MB of RAM
SoundBlaster 16 with Yamaha MIDI daughterboard
Gravis UltraSound MAX
S3 ViRGE
MS-DOS 6.22/Win 3.11

What are some good DOS FPS other than the classic BUILD and iD games?

I can play pretty much anything that runs on straight-up DOS.

By the way, Saturn X is amazing on a real DOS box (with UltraSound and Adlib)!

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
My vintage bespoke pixels.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Nintendo Kid posted:

There's a bunch of game collection CDs up on archive.org like this https://archive.org/details/cdrom-cdrom-3dsupercdgaming

Lots of them are specifically demo/shareware versions of FPSes from the time period.

Holy moly that's pretty cool, I'll try these out! :)

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Also you HAD to have the CD for the CD audio, which was kind of a big deal.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

ToxicFrog posted:

System Shock, Descent, and Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri are all fantastic. Seriously, two pages of recommendations and no System Shock? For shame.

I also have fond memories of CyClones and Wrath of Earth, but it's been a long time since I've played either and I have no idea if they're at all playable today.

I forgot about System Shock! how could I? Thanks for the suggestions , apart from Descent I don't know those games. I'll give them a try for sure.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
IIRC I turned off the texture filtering with a CVAR in the console under GLIDE.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Kamrat posted:

Just started up the game in software mode and it looks so much better without the blurry textures, it's feels like the game hasn't aged that badly all of a sudden.

You don't have to be in software mode to disable texture filtering. Enter this in the console or add it to your autoexec.cfg

quote:

gl_texturemode GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_NEAREST

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Unreal was amazing in 1024x768 on a Voodoo2 SLI setup.

Also 3dfx's SLI, best SLI.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Cat Mattress posted:

Dunno.




Some fancy lightsourcing from the sky + good old fakecontrast for direction and other modern niceties, a different FOV setting, and that could be it.

There's only two skies we see: blue and red. The color palette on all screenshots match the color themes from Strife's textures and flats.

Welp.

The source of the torches match the blurred picture and everything looks right to be honest.

:)

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
If you're playing in pure DOS or DOSBox, isn't there a mouse driver that disable the vertical axe leaving you with only a mouse look?

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Quake live dude you're the worst kind of tease

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Even on straight up DOS, if you can find a packet driver for your NIC you can transfer stuff via ftp with mTCP.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Mak0rz posted:

This thread is unavailable to pubbies. These Steam keys are first come, first serve!

Shadow Warrior Classic Redux: https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=BChGV7DMdUU2WSk4
Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition: https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=5dHmeAHGYkWYEPMN

Took both! thanks a bunch :)

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
How can I get the Mac/3DO assets for ECWolf?

I'm on Linux if this changes anything.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
"Doom is about moving FAST"

*Shows a demo where the character doesn't run faster than master chief*

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Ok well the multiplayer looks pretty good and you seem to run as fast as classic Doom.

Map editor also, looks good.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
These kill animations are bound to get old fast.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Overall I'm pretty hyped, it looks good and it seems less slow paced than Doom 3. The first demo was meh, but the multiplayers looks promising if they don't gently caress up and I liked the hell demo.

Elliotw2 posted:

When do I get to play my beta copy for preordering all the really good Wolf games though.

This too.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Jia posted:

A lot of it looks pretty great -- if you were expecting a reskinned Doom 1/2, you're loving dumb, lol at the guy bitching about being able to jump -- but goddamn does the whole 'game pauses when switching weapons' thing destroy the game flow. Sure hope that's something you can turn off or get around.

If you're on PC you most probably will be able to switch with the numbers key.

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
Wait what? Powerslave EX got a C&D?? :(

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Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
GLQuake is only good if you're playing on actual 3dfx cards which at this point is a novelty.

GLQuake in 1024x768 on SLI Voodoo2 :pcgaming:

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