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Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

bigmcgaffney posted:

Now I got to decide whether I want a Mel or Margaery avatar

Counter option: A picture of Ser Dontos Hollard with a quote about American foreign policy. It'll make you seem edgy.

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Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Fog Tripper posted:

There are the Others, and the zombies/wights they create. This is how I read it in any event.
Crastor's sons are other-food.

Eh, making them changelings isn't really that big of a stretch. They already fit the mold of rear end in a top hat Celtic faeries, just with an ice theme.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Since it's reached memetic status in this thread, what was, beside's bad writing or masturabatory fantasies, Martin trying to achieve with Danareys' infatuation with Daario? Her romantic infantilism and general naiveté were well established by the time she married Loraq, and if we go by medievel time standards, aren't consorts sort of expected? Seems an odd thing to set up unless it's going to pay dividends later, obvious jokes aside.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Urdnot Fire posted:

There was also Doran talking about his plan in a pretty cool way. You know, the plan that ended up failing miserably in ADWD. :smith:

I guess Martin was trying to say decades long secret plans you always see in fiction would probably go awry just from extenuating circumstances. The problem was he set it up in such a great way, and the Dorne subplot hasn't gone anywhere, while even more branches have been added to an already tangled story. Whatever man, I came to this series when the show was announced, I haven't been beat down yet. Still got a few more years before I'm writing fanfiction with private investigator Gregor Clegane as the protagonist.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Secret Targ Talk (STT):

I like the idea of Jamie and Cersei being the fruit of Aerys' affair. It'd make the friction between Tywin and Tyrion that much more dynamic; him being the true son both biologically and characteristically despite Tywin's disownment of him. Plus it'd explain the penchant for siblings loving.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Rurik posted:

That sounds more like confirmation bias to me. Could increased probability of incest pass on genetically?

"A Familial Inheritance Model of Targaryean Sisterfucking; Discovery of the 64kDa Secrettargase (ST1) Gene and It's Effects on Rates of Royal Incest" -Maester Crick

...tagged isolated secrettargase (ST1) with green fluorescent protein (GFP)...increased incidents of Sisterfucking in transgenic mouse over several generations...

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Where the hell is the Dorne subplot going? Arianne is gonna jump Aegon's bones, and...what? Who's gonna object? It's not like Dany will make it to Westeros in the next book. Who gives a poo poo? Is Connington going to cough on everybody and gently caress that up too? What's the point of introducing Aegon then? Gahh too many subplots. Kill em all. Or make them warg into cats.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

she's 18, Tyrion is in his mid 20's. So no. But keep it up! Speculation is all we have for the next 5-heat death of the universe years.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

I just got done with finals, so I did what I normally do, be bored and play a lot of video games. When my eyes were too bloodshot to look at an LCD screen, I looked at a different LCD screen, in this case my ipod, where my books and porn are.

There's a bit of a succession crisis brewing over the Stark inheritance. Robb naming Jon his successor, Robb probably having a child off of Jeyne Westerling, Davos looking for Rickon the Cannibal King, and the Sansa/Harry thing. I wonder if this was a planned occurrence, or just coincidence of over a decade of writing. It's all kind of moot with everyone starving to death and/or being turned into Aryan zombies, and that the next book is never coming out.* Interesting nonetheless.

*Obligatory statement as per the conditions of posting in the Bad Thread.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

DarkCrawler posted:

Robb's child was aborted, I'm pretty sure.

I'm a fan of Jeyne Westerling being switched. Dem hips.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

While I personally think erotic fanfiction is the ultimate form of flattery, I seem to remember that George has a rather low opinion of it. The fanfiction part, not eroticism, obviously. Something about how the best narratives arise from original characters. Arguments about what defines originality aside, do any of you have what it takes to make your own pornographic literature, or are you too small to stand in your own two suspenders?

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Are there any other book series out there that work mostly on perceptual bias? ASoIaF was the first narrative I read that did so in a nonacademic way, so that was what really drew me to the series. His weird nipple fetish and Jets obsession aside, this has to be a hard series to write; essentially shifting frame of mind every time you write a new chapter.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

A counterpoint to the Red Wedding discussion. Yes, the entire entourage of the "good guys" is decimated, but at the same time, the Freys are systematically being assassinated while Roose Bolton only survives by the marriage of his bastard to a fraud, and that is unraveling. Tywin Lannister is dead, a product of his unconscionable actions against his son. His "heir" in Cersei is a paranoid lunatic. Jaime, our first antagonist, has been thoroughly humbled. It's less a book series of overarching themes than individual intersecting plots. These plots have consequences, and individuals bear the cost. The War of the Roses was the culmination of plots upon plots, wheels within wheels. And how did that end? Henry Tudor, barely related to anyone, seized power and killed everybody else. Not exactly romantic, but sensible. If we should ever receive an ending, it'll be something like that.

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Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

In a moment of :spergin: I came to this jarring and infuriating question, why the hell is someone in fantasy Spain named Archibald?

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