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Gravy Jones posted:Do we really need spoilers for a show that ended five years ago? It's not like an spoiler-free rewatch thread or anything. MASH has done everything; I would be more surprised if he wasn't heavily influenced by MASH. Hell, even The Office is influenced by MASH. drat that was a good show. I would be willing to bet all the money in my pockets against all the money in your pockets that every major show runner in the US is intimately familiar with every episode of MASH.
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t3ch3 posted:Does anyone else skip over Isaac and Ishmael when they rewatch the show? I consider it more of a historical aberration than an episode of the show and it wasn't very interesting or well put together in the first place. I always skip over that one. I couldn't even make it through it the first time. I felt like I was being given a condescending lecture in the 8th grade. By far the worst episode of the series.
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njbeachbum posted:Yeah I skip that one and the 9/11 one when I do a run through. What 9/11 episode? I certainly don't remember seeing a 40 minute episode of Aaron Sorkin awkwardly preaching to the audience about the relationship between Islam and the western world like they were children, and I've seen every episode. I think you must be mistaken. I don't get the Access hate either. I liked it, but I tend to always like it when a television show drastically breaks from their common narrative structure for an episode. The only ones I outright dislike, are all the ones having to do with the Zoey kidnapping. It's hard to feel dramatically invested when you know from the start she's gonna be ok; because otherwise they would have to spend an entire season dealing with her loss, and it would still feel cheap. My two personal favorite other than those commonly mentioned, are Two Bartletts and Night Five. Toby episodes were the best. Hobohemian fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 19, 2012 |
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thrawn527 posted:It's such a quiet episode compared to others, but I love 17 People. It's so powerful, and at times terrifying. There's that one titular line of the episode that really highlights what was so great about Schiff's acting, and the cadence of his delivery. It's was something to the effect of "There were 17 people...you knew." that really showcased how much he added in emotional impact to what was already a great line. It worked extremely well for the comedic lines as well. There was that one exchange where Josh has just screwed up a press briefing that went like: "Have you fallen on your head?" "Listen-" "Have you fallen down,and hit your head on something hard?" That had me laughing more than some shows billed as "comedies".
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Apr 19, 2012 23:11
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TinTower posted:Schiff was also in The Infidel, a comedy about a Muslim who finds out he was born to Jewish parents. It's better than it sounds, because Schiff and Omid Djalli do play off each other well. I was at one of those specialty video rental stores that has like a million moves from the past and overseas,etc, and I asked the clerk if they had The Infidel. He asked me what it was and I told him it's Richard Schiff and an adopted Muslim that just found out his bio parents were Jewish. He immediately ordered it for the store as I stood in front of him, and then said I could rent it after he has.
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Apr 20, 2012 22:22
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James R posted:I poo poo you not, I just clicked on this thread to post about that item. Totally want it, but think it would just make me sad as Leo/John Spencer died. I'm kind of pissed I never thought of that. Not that I want one on my wall, but the ability to turn a gazillion percent profit on one sharpie, 1000 white napkins, and some wooden picture frames.
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Apr 21, 2012 00:45
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The Bach Prelude from Cello Suite No. 1 preformed by Yo-Yo Ma with Josh and Stanley Keyworth from ATVA was a pretty emotional scene, probably one of the best in the series. The slow build up, to the yelling in denial, and the crash before it all comes to light. The overwhelming presence of the music;that was some brilliant directing.That had to get a few peoples hearts pounding other than me. Edit: Watched it again. The clapping overlayed once he's finally free from his burden. Great drat scene. Hobohemian fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Apr 21, 2012 |
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Apr 21, 2012 01:35
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James R posted:Obviously the show wasn't the same post-Sorkin, but the main things that annoyed me were what happened to Leo and what happened to Toby. Neither were fitting with the characters through what we'd seen in the first three/four seasons. The writing for Leo and Toby was so bad post season 4 that to this day Richard Schiff has not seen a single episode of season 5,6,or 7, even ones he was in. He was particularly upset about the leak plot line, as Omne said. Maybe Schiff and Toby have loyalty in common.
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Apr 21, 2012 19:20
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:Here's my thing. (Besides all the other problems with this plotline that have already been mentioned.) There's a plotline early on--season one or two, I can't recall--where some information is deliberately withheld from CJ so she has plausible deniability in front of the press. CJ is ticked and I think it's resolved not to do that anymore because she's a valued member of the team and hugs for everyone, etc. But when we're talking about a super secret military space vehicle--what reason would CJ have to have access for that information? And for that matter, what reason would Toby? She's the press secretary; he's in charge of communications. Unless they were planning on announcing that the vehicle existed--which, clearly, they weren't--then there isn't any plausible reason why either or both of those people would have access to that information. I'm not exactly an expert on information security, but that seems obvious, right? CJ was Cheif of Staff by that time wasn't she? Everything post mid season five gets kind of muddled for me as not much of it was interesting until Santos started getting involved. I thought the leak happened at the very end of season 6, and leo had the hear attack during the episode at camp david( I don't remember which one that was)?
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Apr 22, 2012 03:55
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I know this is from a few pages back, but I found that Yo Yo Ma scene on youtube. Apparently Spanish speakers were as much of a fan of it as I was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdVvgyqSTrk So.drat.Good.
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Apr 22, 2012 05:46
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Remember when scheduling time for the marathon to add a few hours to watch Manchester, and 20 hours in America twice.
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Apr 25, 2012 21:49
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Asiina posted:I've watched through the series more times than I can count, and I always feel a little pang of disappointment when Will is introduced because the series really does drop quite a bit in quality very quickly. I actually didn't really mind the part where Josh and Toby fight. Look at the context. Toby's brother just committed suicide because he's dying of cancer, which Toby feels was an act of abandonment, to his family and to himself. Josh comes back after leaving his post, which evokes similar feelings of abandonment within Toby, since he considered Josh as something of a brother to him. The fight itself is even choreographed like a fight between brothers. Starts out with some yelling and name calling, something small gets thrown, and then they begin to wrestle. I didn't really find it that ridiculous at all, I thought it was rather well done.
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May 27, 2012 02:39
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:"A god of the English language," especially one who works in politics, would definitely NOT be a prescriptivist. Some of my favorite Toby moments are when he slips up with his usual cleverness. "...like a guy with a big new thing, that doesn't know how to get the most out of it!" "..tempt the wrath from high atop the thing". "..glass is half full or, you know, half...the other thing". Hobohemian fucked around with this message at 09:07 on May 31, 2012 |
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I think I remember reading a couple years ago that Iran actually did sentence a women to death by stoning for adultery. Don't know what ever came of that, but it was well after the show had finished.
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