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TurnipFritter posted:Woah woah woah let's not say things we can't take back. Square actually makes new models for their monsters with every game they make. I wish you would turn PM's on so I could message you and tell you how your avatar and title and this comment are funny, and I found this comment so hilarious I laughed out loud.  Oh, and I like both dungeon crawlers AND anime dating games, separate AND in the same game. So I wish Atlus would...oh, wait. 
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PlasticPaddy posted:I'm not far enough to have the option to fuse yet, I was just looking it up on Gamefaqs and it made my head spin. Maybe it will make more sense when I'm actually playing the game. It should be okay. It's pretty intuitive once you actually use it. At least it was for me, and Persona 4 was my first SMT game. There's a lot of in depth information, but it's not necessary to know it all to be able to use the fusion system. Just learn by trying, and learn as you go.
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Man, the screenshots for the Vita look amazing.  I didn't even know Persona 4 HAD textures like that. Or maybe they redid them for the remake...?I didn't like how the characters looked animated, but I think I'm getting used to it now. Pureauthor posted:There's a customization option for whether or not the characters will wear their glasses when fighting. Hahaha. I can't help but hope there'll be options to put glasses on the Persona 3 characters, too. MotU posted:I hope there are several glasses to choose from, just for the possibility of the moustache + nose glasses.
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Endorph posted:Include Etrian Odyssey and Trauma Center characters and that's a day one for me. Actually, I've been wondering about Etrian Odyssey. Would it be worth trying, if I liked, Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey? I don't know that much about EO, except it has nice art, and is a dungeon crawler like SJ...but since I've played Strange Journey, I actually sort of like GOOD dungeon crawlers with good atmosphere.
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Hey folks. I've been playing the 3DS SMT game a lot and it's my first SMT game, but I already kind of finding myself craving more. All the different mini-series confuse me. What game should I buy?? Oooh, welcome to SMT! The short answer to your question is, indeed, "all of them". The longer answer is: It's pretty confusing what series is what, and what game is from what, and all. I started with Persona 4, myself, and it was a long time before I figured out what the hell was going on with the series and the basis, and the spinoffs, and.... An article that was helpful to me was Hardcore Gaming 101's Megami Tensei/Shin Megami Tensei write up on the series. I say look around and find one you think looks interesting. If you like it, keep playing, if not, go to the next one that looks awesome. There are a ton of different kinds and styles of spinoff series, and they're quite different from each other. A lot of the games have Let's Plays, so you can always check them out, too, to see how the game plays. I've personally tried Persona 3 & 4, the MMORPG Imagine, Strange Journey, Devil Survivor, and the Raidou Kuzunoha Devil Summoners for PS2, and ended up liking them all. Catalina fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Sep 8, 2011 |
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thetrin posted:Despite the fact that I already own IS and EP on PSone, I'm going to be part of the problem and buy them both again. Please do, because then you help fund remakes for people like me who missed the games the first time.  Speaking of which, I almost have enough money together to preorder Persona 2: Innocent Sin. September is such a hard month for video gamers.
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Justice posted:Stem cells. I could not stop laughing at this. GreenBuckanneer posted:So I've never played a PS2 SMT game (not persona series), which one is the best one, alternatively which one is the first one? Non-Persona SMT games on the PS2 are: Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (a.k.a. Shin Megami Tensei III) SMT: Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha 1 & 2 Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 The main Shin Megami Tensei series consists of Shin Megami Tensei I & Shin Megami Tensei II for Super Nintendo, Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne for Playstation 2. Direct spinoffs of the main series still considered in line with it, rather than a spinoff series in their own right are Shin Megami Tensei: If...for Super Nintendo (no current English translations), and Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey for Nintendo DS. Strange Journey is sort of the unofficial Shin Megami Tensei IV. From what I understand, the developers were unsure as to how it would be received, so they left the name off, just in case. What is main and what is a spinoff and in what series is very confusing, and I think nearly everyone doesn't immediately understand at first. For your specific request, I'd personally reccommend Shin Megami Nocturne.
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Through my childhood, my religion was Christianity taught from a Protestant Bible Belt perspective, so reading the Let's Plays of Shin Megami Tensei I & II, was, um, somewhat culturally jarring. I consider the perspective of the SMT I & II games to be both amusing and educational. I also immensely look forward to the amusing Judeo-Christianic inspired plot points that appear in just about every single game in the SMT series.
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After Koudelka, I promised myself I would never try a new PSX era JRPG again because of their loading times and encounter rates, but I'm making an exception for Persona 2. Katsudon posted:Same here. There are these, though! (Borrowed from the Atlus D shop)      
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I'm sensing the potential here for a derail worse than the seasonal Aigis ones.
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Well, don't they say that the best satire is indistinguishable from the real thing? I read that post as satire, anyway.The Grimace posted:Teddy's so awesome that he could beat me with his bear hands.  It's been approximately 2 years and 9 months since I first played Persona 4, and every bear pun I read is still hilarious.
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YggiDee posted:While there's no tiredness in P4, excessive dungeon diving is going to cut into your afternoon S-Link hours, so it's generally encouraged to make fewer trips. Also, on rainy days, nearly all social links are not available, and the enemies drop better special items.
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King of Solomon posted:Mary/Marie. I preemptively dislike her so I hope not, too. Dojima would be loving awesome, but you know what would be more awesome? Nanako. Just think, beating up everyone as her. Her special could be throwing pudding at people. Personally, I think that the reason that most of the characters revealed in Persona Ultimate are from P4 is because of the upcoming anime and most fans will be more familiar with them because of that that. The reason Aigis is included is because she seems to sell a ridiculous amount of merchandise in Japan compared to other characters. I've even seen people who are familiar with her and buy her figures despite not having even played the game. 
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Alkanos posted:I love that there's even a preview screenshot of this. Hell, Yousuke is one of my favorite characters, and I'm getting a huge kick out of that image. It's so nice to see a company that knows how to speak to the fans. Speedball posted:You know... playing Persona 2... I can't remember the last time I had so much fun just running around the city, talking to everyone. How weird is that? That's usually fluff stuff, but it's all so entertaining! I've always loved walking around town and talking to NPC's in RPG's. This is making me jealous. I had some unintended expenses and had to put off my order of Persona 2 IS. Hopefully I'll be able to buy it next month.
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Ryoshi posted:No idea what made me think of this but I love the little stuff that Atlus throws into the SMT games - for example, a couple of weeks ago in Strange Journey I was trying to tackle Sector Carina, when the angel Mastema (a huge douchebag if you know ancient Hebrew lore) gives me a weapon to beat the boss - the Shibboleth. I didn't know that word, so that's fantastic. Thanks for posting!
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Justice posted:If there's one thing japanese game developers are known for, it's subtlety. This made me laugh. Especially if I add "JRPG" before "game" in that sentence. I mean, there's...there's Team Ico, right? Other than that I think I'm drawing a blank. I personally thought the culture fest scene was kind of funny...the bathing suit contest was kinda creepy, but it had funny parts. But I liked the crossdressing part. The Persona 4 characters sort of make me think of anime characters that are aspiring to be a bit more like real people, so it's kind of funny to see them have to suffer through some anime tropes. It feels kind of self-aware. I know a lot of people don't like that scene though. I'm not sure how many people are aware of this, but you can hold down the triangle button to speed through a scene.
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vilkacis posted:Last time I tried to order a game from Amazon, they just plain wouldn't ship it, full stop. Screw 'em. I would recommend Ebay instead - it's actually pretty reliable if you go for a seller with a few thousand positive feedback. If that's an absolute no-go for some reason, I recall play-asia.com having pretty decent shipping rates to Europe. (They don't seem to have DS in stock any more, though, but it might be worth keeping in mind for the future.) I got an email from Play-Asia with two coupon codes for $7 off $77 or $15 of $150, that are valid through Dec 31st 2011. I'd be happy to give it to any goons who want it, especially if they were ordering an English version of a game out of country.
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I think the real travesty of the list is that Junpei is nowhere in the top characters.Radish posted:I guess they are just that desperate for that with the P4 cast lacking in pretty/cool guys they have to settle for Yosuke to satiate their need for boy love. Well, if they make a remake of Persona 4 with a female protagonist, there would be no need for that, would there?
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Pornographic Memory posted:but Junpei was only important to the plot as a satellite character of Chidori, who actually made it on because she's an awesome character and a bro I know you're joking, but for a second there, I actually wanted to punch you through the internet. 
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If anyone was interested in purchasing the SMT: Persona 2: Innocent Sin for PSP, the price on Amazon has dropped to $19.99 with free 1-day shipping!. The free 1-day shopping is good through "December 21, 2011 at 11:59 p.m. Pacific time".
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Oh, Atlus, you glorious bastards. So! I got my copy of Persona 2: Innocent Sin PSP in the mail today from Amazon, and I was really happy to discover it's still the very first release version, with the box and the bonus CD. 
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King of Solomon posted:I absolutely adored the original Shadow Hearts (it's one of, if not my favorite game to this day), and was very disappointed in SH2 (though it did net me a copy of the original of my own, which is great.) As a result, I never played anything beyond the second. I had the same experience. I loved Shadow Hearts, and played about halfway through SH2, and went away somewhat disappointed. It seems like the series progressed From Koudelka -> SH1 -> SH2, it got less serious, and more into wacky humor. I think if I'd played the series now, I better know how to approach it, but SH2 was disappointing at the time because SH1 was a a blend of serious and wacky, while SH2 had a major plot points somewhat like "ride Roger Bacon's fission jet across the world to escape from the Russian revolution with Princess Anastasia." I accidentally read spoilers for the events of the True Ending of Shadow Hearts 2 and  , I highly recommend looking it up if you don't know it, because it's one of the biggest mindfucks in gaming.EDIT: But count me in as one of those that thinks that Koudelka was a masterful handling of a Western setting and plot, and Shadow Hearts 1 was an excellent balance and blend of both Eastern and Western. Oh wait, was this not the Shadow Hearts thread? Well, I started playing Persona 2 Innocent Sin last night, and I'm really loving the 90's slang speak that's been put into the English script! Also, the game is very different than I expected...most of the description makes it seem pretty dark, but the game has started off more lighthearted and anime than I expected. I'm going to guess that means it'll start off lighthearted with an underlying darkness that will come to a head later.
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Policenaut posted:New screenshots for Persona 4 The Golden feature the Famitsu content. Pictures of Teddie...so cute...must resist urge...to buy merchandise...  Aw crap.
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Endorph posted:You do realize Perosna 4 is a shin megami tensei game, right? This is what I was also thinking the whole time while reading this discussion.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I'm loving all the smug condescending "heh POKEMON" comments considering that the SMT series is older than the Pokemon series by years. SMT is Pokemon for people who think they're smart.
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 Sorry about the low quality, apparently it was a scan posted from 2chan. According to an article on Siliconera: A scan from the magazine also shows a new Bike Pursuit attack. This battle skill has characters ride motorcycles and can be used after you obtain a license to drive one. This remake is turning out to be genius at making the extras I never knew I always wanted.
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I'm assuming some of the events will be during that stretch of time after the Good Ending and before the true Ending where the clock speeds forward while you scream at the game about how you could have used those months to up your social links. For instance, the date on the ski event seems to be in Januray. That ties into my guess for the "most requested" feature, too. It's probably more things to do in the game in that big time skip at the end. I don't mind that much if the new scenes cut into the social links, though, because I've seen a lot of those events already, and the new events look :krad. Though the obsessive compulsive completionist in me is excited to see exactly what method it will take to see everything in one playthrough. Also, I totally had no plans to buy a Vita, Atlus why are you doing this to me, I'm already planning my Christmas money for this year argh.
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Katsudon posted:Yeah and what's especially infuriating about it is Naoto herself loving told him all that like maybe half an hour or so before in order to convince him to let the MC go and try to figure out who could've kidnapped Nanako. He even repeats one of the kids saying "like what happened to all of us" during that scene too. Then she acts like she caught him in such a giant lie, jesus. Considering all they talked about right in front of him you'd have to be drop dead stupid not to put two and two together there. This is also pretty much part of why I just can't like Naoto. Quoting this because I also hate this and it's been bothering me immensely since I've played the game in 2009. I know they only made the game in 18 months, and went through some plot rewrites, but that's probably the lowest point of the writing to me.
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manny kaltz 1) If you beat Strange Journey, I don't think you'll have any trouble with Persona 4. P4 is simpler that SJ in a lot of ways (less "gently caress you" status effects, more forgiving with what persona you need for what boss, etc.). Despite what Personae you end up with, you always have a roster of party members for versatility as far as skills and strengths go. In storyline boss fights, the best thing to remember is that the best thing the MC's Personae can do are best buffs and debuffs. Also, one other thing about the ending writing in Persona 4: DISCLAIMER: The writing in the later parts of Persona 4 Pretty much from Naoto's dungeon to the end IS a giant clusterfuck that really could have used a rewrite, but I don't think that flaw is so bad as it ruins the game to anything below one of the Best Games Ever. But one thing about some of the near-to-end reveals that I know disappointed a lot of people but I actually really liked was Adachi's revealed motivation for why he committed the murders and strung the team along. I think he really felt like a "real" serial killer. He was a combination of self-absorbed, frustrated, high opinion of self and low opinion of others, and personality that lacks any or enough empathy/understanding of other people.. From a storyline perspective, it has a terrible payoff; but from somewhat of a believabilty perspective, Adachi feels like a "real" serial killer with a "real" motivation. I've found that in real life, the explanations that killers give are somewhat understandable when you know the factors, but very, very unsatisfying.
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Morpheus posted:Review copy. Thanks for posting the mini-review here! It answered a lot of things I was curious about, but didn't want to go find for fear of spoilers. I'm interested in your whole review when it's done. Where do you publish them?
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Devil Survivor: I'm on the 3rd day, first play, and have been pursuing Midori events when they pop up. Ha ha, *holy poo poo* was I surprised and terrified when Beldur showed up at the end of a 12:30 fight event. That bastard, I wasn't expecting to him until 18:00! He really kicked my rear end, too. Repeatedly. I'm currently grinding and fusing higher level demons in an attempt to be able to even ESCAPE that fight alive. In somewhat related news, I've found out the demons up for auction reset every time you turn off the game and start it up again. That goes for empty slots, too; they get filled by a random demon. ETA: Well, I believe that's the first time in a game I've ever ground for levels and skills so I'd be able to run away from a boss fight. Catalina fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Feb 7, 2012 |
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Dogbutt posted:Just some advice, increase your strength stat from now on. That is, until day 4. Then do what you want with your stats. Thank you, I'll do that! Much appreciated.
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Nate RFB posted:You can easily get away with like, 8 Strength tops in Devil Survivor. In fact I recommend it because the faster you pump Magic the faster you can switch to a Holy Dance/Drain build. I've been doing what I usually do in the first play of games where you allocate your stats (especially SMT); just put even stat growth across all stats, learn what my best strategy is, and put them where I'd like for the second playthrough* I find it cool that in SMT: Strange Journey, your base stat growth was based on a personality test. *(Not that I've ever gotten to a second playthrough of a SMT game, because I have so many of them and they're all so fun and distracting from each other argh! I've sworn to myself I must commit to Devil Survivor as my main RPG I'm playing until I finish. So far so good!) ETA "second playthrough" Catalina fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Feb 8, 2012 |
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Incidentally, what exactly does the agility stat do? Does it affect turn order and hit/evasion? One thing that I'm really enjoying about Devil Survivor is that it reveals information at a really good pace. You really feel like the world is going to hell, and things are getting worse and worse. That's really impressive considering that you have freedom to pick who's storylines and events that you see. I've been pursuing Atsuro's events and holy poo poo the revelation about the chips inside electronics having the ability to microwave the whole district as a last resort defense was really good. At this point I'm assuming that's what is going to happen at the end of 7 days.
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All right! Made it to day 4. (Midori, all of your fight events are so HARD.) I've been really pleasantly surprised by how deep the game is willing to go when it comes to characters and storylines. The anime style and teenage protagonists had me expecting this would be a game that would stop at that level, but I've found that as the game goes on, the deeper the observations and predictions of human behavior go. Some of the events and reveals have had me audibly reacting. I initially passed Devil Survivor up to try other games in the SMT franchise, but decided to give it a chance when I read someone's description of how well-done the time management system goes. I'm really glad I did, as I'm enjoying the game very much, much more than I expected I would! General plot direction spoilers, though they're probably not spoilers if you know much about the mainline SMT games: When I was a young child, I was taught Christianity from a Southern Baptist perspective, so the integration of Judeo-Christian elements into SMT plots to be hilarious and fascinating. Hilarious because, "you did what with what? And mixed it with what?" And fascinating because it comes from a a very different viewpoint that reminds me that the viewpoint I learned from is just one interpretation of the same myths and stories. By the way, a while ago I did accidentally read a big spoiler about the TRUE IDENTITY of the relationship between the protagonist and Naoya, so...yeah. Catalina fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Feb 10, 2012 |
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On the beginning of day 6 in Devil Survivor now. This is the first game in a long time where I've thought "I want to replay this!" rather than "oh, multiple endings. Maybe I'll get around to it some day." I hope there's a new game + that offers advantages. I'd hate to have to grind all my demons up from scratch again. Spoilers for up to Day 5: I was impressed that you had to choose between saving Keisuke and saving Mari, since up to that point in the game, you always had time to save everyone, and the La Place Mail is accurate. I ended up saving Mari, and Keisuke died.  On my next playthrough, I want to try the events in a different order to see if it's possible to save both in one playthrough. (don't tell me whether or not this is possible, haha). It seems like it might be possible, given that Kaido's tied to the bloodless murders...I also noticed something that had me both impressed with Atlus and facepalming very hard. MAJOR DEVIL SURVIVOR SPOILERS I AM SERIOUS! The main character is forced to participate in the War of Bel (which is a hilarious enough concept on it's own), right? It makes a lot of sense when I realized that he's the reincarnation of A-BEL.    Oh, Atlus. How hilariously you screw with my culture's mythology.
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Policenaut posted:Well maybe they'll announce both? Right? I mean look at Growlanser/Gungnir! damnit atlus don't be dicks about this That would be hilarious! Also, sorry to turn this into a Devil Survior blog, but on day 6 I just met Black Frost and he is the cutest and BEST THING EVER. (Even more than how he is already the best thing in every SMT game.) Midori, I saved you without expecting anything in return, but you've been the gift that just keeps on giving. Now that I've met Black Frost, I don't care what it takes, humans and demons are going to survive together into a happy future, damnit hee-ho.
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