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So I'm on day 2 of Devil Survivor 2, is going as a Physical MC viable? People said avoid it like the plague in the first one, but I did it there too and didn't have very much trouble. Right now, it seems really good that I can one-shot some of the weaker demons, but will this come back to bite me?
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2012 07:57 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 14:37 |
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Dogbutt posted:P.S. Please don't tell me I'm the only one who thinks Daichi is pretty terrible as a character and battler. I thought this at first, but then he drove a loving truck into the exploding demon. After that, I can't hate him. Also, Joe seems much, much worse in a fight. His damage has always been the lowest of any of my characters.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2012 02:42 |
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Alteisen posted:So I'm at day 3, I have a battle but I'm all alone, I assume I should just leave this for a new game+? This is definitely doable your first time, because I did it. The leader ran away, but I was still able to kill everything else. Just go on the southeastern path and take each demon on one-by-one. Near the end you might be getting attacked by two, but it shouldn't be that bad.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2012 03:05 |
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Douche Bag posted:Can you get by in Persona 4 by just randomly fusing your demons? I haven't bothered to look up how to do it properly and have been sorta winging it. So far I'm doing alright but I'm worried down the road I might be in trouble. Yeah, pretty much. There might be times where there's demons around your level that really help, but you shouldn't worry about having the exactly correct set. As long as you fuse often and make sure you have lots of different combinations for spells and resistances, you're good. Edit: Something I just thought of, in Devil Survivor 2, can I use the joint cracking to get multiple spells off one single demon? I've gotten to the second Fumi fight with that level 37 rear end in a top hat with ??? hp and I'm trying to figure out a strategy. Momomo fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Mar 6, 2012 |
# ¿ Mar 6, 2012 01:49 |
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Momomo posted:So I'm on day 2 of Devil Survivor 2, is going as a Physical MC viable? People said avoid it like the plague in the first one, but I did it there too and didn't have very much trouble. Right now, it seems really good that I can one-shot some of the weaker demons, but will this come back to bite me? Momomo posted:I've gotten to the second Fumi fight with that level 37 rear end in a top hat with ??? hp and I'm trying to figure out a strategy. Hey guys, guess what's come back to bite me in the rear end? Did anyone actually manage to kill this guy?
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2012 04:27 |
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Alteisen posted:So how do I fight this botis guy on day 3. Save all your MP for him. If you don't have one, fuse a Sarasvati (it's like level 17 I think) or hell, even a couple because they're ridiculously useful. Give it dance moves and have all your guys focus on Botis, after clearing everything else out. Since you're going specifically for him, just kill the demon leaders without worrying about EXP.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 18:48 |
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Alteisen posted:"I am Ronaldo Kukiri and I will show your sins"
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2012 03:39 |
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Alteisen posted:There's something else? Are you serious? Beating him brings out the next big bad who splits into two parts. Said parts can form back into one again to replenish their HP and MP fully. Not beating both fast enough will result in the one left over to magically form back into two. Oh, also you have to protect Ronaldo's stupid rear end from getting killed. They replenish your health and you can relocate skills and stuff, but you can not save between these two fights. It's like they're trying to piss you off. To be honest, I didn't find the first part that bad (my physical MC kind of steps all over everything), it's just that what comes after requires you to be on your toes, and loving up makes you start it all over.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2012 07:07 |
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I remember it doing so, but even if it didn't, he's still immune to every element when they're combined. When I finally killed one half the other just combined into a full one and I just said gently caress it and turned the game off.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2012 07:34 |
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I just brute forced it this time with Devil Speed + Double Up. When I first tried, all my guys were split up so they weren't able to heal each other. With this I was able to kill it without too much trouble.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2012 11:07 |
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I felt P3 had the better story and characters, but P4 told its story and characters better. P4 had lame characters like Yukiko, Rise and Naoto, but it didn't make you wait three months for anything of substance to happen at one point in the game.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2012 01:12 |
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Eh, I found the P3 allies to be surprisingly competent except in some extreme situations (MARIN KARIN ). In fact, they seemed a whole lot more potent than the P4 cast (when under player control), though that might just be me imagining things.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2012 20:20 |
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It's probably that her mouth is a perfect U. It really annoyed me that it looked "drawn" on.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2012 18:43 |
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I haven't gotten much further in the game (still on day 4 I believe) and Yamoto is probably the worst designed of all. They seem to have gone the entirely predictable route and made the evil path guy look exactly like Naoya.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2012 19:51 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:I'm still holding out for a PC game wahahaha who the gently caress am I kidding I'm trying out Nocturne for the first time on the PS2 emulator, using a mouse and keyboard controls. It works... alright. There's not really any need for a controller in a game like this, at least.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2012 01:18 |
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Eh, I found three different physical attacks was way too confusing. From what I remember, the game didn't make it clear what weapon did what and called them all strike attacks in the menu. Annoying, since attacking with a weapon was a million times more effective in 3 than it was in 4. I liked being able to actually hit enemies.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2012 18:21 |
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I thought the worst part of that was having to beat up a defenseless woman a second time. Whoever thought up these scenarios is pretty hosed up. I've only played until day 4, but it seems stuff like that is there to stay, unfortunately.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2012 23:53 |
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I just think of Fumi being condescending as compensation for the black hole of stupidity that was Yuzu. ^^^You take that back, Daichi is awesome.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2012 04:47 |
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What other character drives a truck off a cliff, into a super strong demon after seeing it blow up? No one, that's who.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2012 05:08 |
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Artix74 posted:They beat into your head the idea that you should never take easy way out, and always search for the truth throughout the entire game. Surely, you don't think an action that goes directly against that ideal would lead you to a good ending? Your party pretty much does nothing but react to things instead of searching for the truth until this point. Just look at the whole Mitsuo thing. Only reason I knew to get past that ending is because a friend made sure I didn't gently caress up. Admittedly, I probably would've at least tried to stop it from happening if I didn't know. Killing a person is pretty clearly the wrong thing to do.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2012 02:14 |
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The DS wasn't region locked and was a huge reason the system was so good, all the weird Japan only stuff was just an import away. This just stamps all over that potential.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2012 02:14 |
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vanov posted:I used Yukari, Akihiko and Mitsuru as soon as they became available and did so through to the end of the game. This was my team too, though I used Koromaru for a while instead of Yukari. Eventually, the poor pup just wasn't pulling his weight and I had to switch him back out.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2012 21:45 |
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Dastardly posted:Couldn't see that anyone had posted this so I might aswell do it. There's only one thing that came to mind watching that.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2012 05:44 |
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I loved Devil Survivor, but there were way too many bullshit escort quests like that. Sorry to say, if you're that frustrated, it's not going to get much better.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2012 05:55 |
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I only got to day 4, but what is it that makes people say Daichi is like Shinji? Other than not wanting to fight (which Shinji reacts to in multiple ways, but Daichi handles in a much more sane way), the two aren't really anything alike.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2012 02:38 |
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Cityinthesea posted:The only one I'd say that was really bad was the second Persona 4 anime opening. the others were just kinda silly. I WILL STRIP SEARCH IF I HAVE TO I will never understand why they're so intent on using these unintelligible songs.
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# ¿ May 9, 2012 08:27 |
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Eh, I thought it was pretty good. It works more knowing this is an enhanced version of the game, rather than it being the opening for the original game.
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# ¿ May 24, 2012 18:48 |
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That ties into the story more. In 3 they're teenagers hand-picked to work together by a super rich and advanced company, so they aren't really obligated to be friends. In 4 it's just a bunch of kids playing detective, which... really makes the Kirijo group seem incompetent as gently caress. They tried for a decade to figure out Personas, while a group of teens could do it entirely on their own after like a day.
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# ¿ May 24, 2012 19:16 |
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Technique posted:Also, Naoya is such a badass, and the first party member i've had who seems capable of pulling his weight. They did a terrible job with his design, I think. You take one look at him and you instantly know he's evil. Also, for the longest time I thought he was wearing a poncho.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2012 06:42 |
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(P4 Killer spoilers) Dojima being the killer would've been much better, I think, because we actually have an emotional connection to him. There is absolutely no reason you'd feel connected to Adachi, you'd just think of him as the wacky sidekick. Adachi being the real killer was just so contrived and stupid, and I hate how he just suddenly turned his crazy switch on as soon as people suspected him. It kind of drove the whole "This is a complete mockery of a mystery story" thing in.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2012 19:18 |
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TurnipFritter posted:Boy is your face gonna be red when you form an unbreakable bond with him in Persona 4 The Golden for the Playstation Vita. That's not the same thing though, because it's optional. You bond with Dojima even if you don't social link with him. Also, I don't really like the concept of linking with the killer anyway, because you're supposed to be making a real connection to them, that's why you unlock more abilities from it. If Adachi was just faking it then that just ruins the whole thing. Of course, this means if Dojima was the killer then you couldn't link with him, but you could have similar scenes without an ingame bonus. Maybe something like Elizabeth dates.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2012 19:23 |
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Grozz Nuy posted:I don't know why anyone would ever use Chie even for physical damage anymore if these changes are accurate. Cause her competition is still way more obnoxious than her. Having to choose between her, Teddie, Yosuke and Naoto was like a no brainer. Though with these new skills I might end up switching Yukiko out for Naoto.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2012 06:02 |
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King of Solomon posted:What, and heal with the MC? Yukiko's still an amazing healer with an absolutely massive SP pool. In general I found every character other than the MC to be very inept at their jobs. Yukiko was always just barely healing enough for everyone to survive unless she was guzzling SP every round. I also don't like her and if it means I have to do the healing myself, I don't really mind.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2012 06:39 |
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Unless Golden changed something, all Margaret did was kiss you on the cheek.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2012 21:00 |
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She wanted people to see her for what she truly was, which was apparently a stripper. Or the same thing as people see her as. I don't think even the writers knew what Rise's conflict was supposed to be.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2012 06:20 |
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But if she didn't want to be seen that way, why did she end up not really changing? If she did then... well there isn't any conflict.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2012 06:26 |
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Soul Glo posted:Stupid question inbound! I'm pretty sure you have to synth these at that one place in the mall. Fortune teller or something, I think.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2012 06:45 |
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He's also shirtless and wears a band on his head, like the crown of thorns.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2012 06:59 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It doesn't really treat religion with disrespect as much as it's just Japanese and doesn't realize what exactly it's doing though. Like they made a game where your character can summon Satan sure, but he can summon Lucifer and Beelzebub too who I always thought were all the same being. I think they just flipped open a bunch of religion books and said LET'S DO THIS ONE without completely understanding what they were doing. The best case of this happening was the end of P4 the Animation where they use the power of friendship to summon Lucifer.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2012 08:14 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 14:37 |
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But they end up doing the same thing anyway by killing Izanami. How do they know there wasn't someone above her doing everything?
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2012 20:51 |