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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Baam was trapped in a cave. That was all he ever knew. Now, odds are he didn't spontaneously come into existence out of thin air, so presumably someone put him there for some reason. He is definitely a monster of some sort, though I doubt it will involve transforming or anything.

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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
The crown game in itself wasn't very good, but it developed Baam's character pretty well. That is, it made it very clear that the boy is loving nuts.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I don't really like either of those two princesses on their own, but together they become much better.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Translator comments for manga involving female characters are pretty much always going to be creepy and juvenile.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

final2percent posted:

Chapter 64

As expected, the bull was feigning weakness. Also, sheep guy is a total badass.

The bull isn't doing anything. That discussion about that nameless girl's animal control technique made it pretty clear what is going on. Whoever is controlling it split up the princesses, who are the only ones who might be a threat to rankers. I would have thought it was the sheep guy, but he seems to have a different monster right now. So, I guess it must be coffee lady.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Kneel Before Zog posted:

Is this manga sort of like trick tower from Hunter x Hunter? Ever since watching that I've been looking for anime/manga similar to the kind of psychology that Hunter X Hunter used as plot devices.

It looked like it would go that way a few times, but signs point to no.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

AtomikKrab posted:

So the guy in the sheep costume is just a rookie secret agent?


I wonder what a competent one is like.

Big fish, small pond. This is like the second floor of the tower, and apparently Yuri is very much a resident of the top.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Relaxodon posted:

Is it normal in Korea that stories such as this are published in a web format? It seems to be quiet a bit above your regular web comic. What i am asking is: Why is this not published in Books/Magazines?

I have just caught up and i have to say it was better than i expected. It seems to be a notch better than a regular shonen.

I don't fully understand the business model, but from my understanding the authors are under contract. Meaning, they have a publisher and such, but it is all online.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Think about it. Lahel spent a lot of time with Baam, but she could come and go freely while he could not. She had a kid who thought she was light and goodness personified, and encountered him entirely on her own terms. What was the most important time of his life might have been a diversion for her. We still know nothing about Lahel's motivations. She obviously has some fondness for Baam, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't throw him aside again to achieve her goals.
Coffee lady had a great tool in Lahel for getting rid of the threat if she made a good enough offer. Promises are cheap, but Lahel is probably gullible enough to buy that the second floor manager could somehow get her to the top.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Nov 30, 2011

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Even if no one offered her a deal, if she tries going with Baam she becomes a target too. The tower staff loving hates irregulars and wants them dead. Baam might be able to carry Lahel to the top, but that is the most dangerous method available for her.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Baam tried to make friends. He really hasn't done anything to earn this level of loyalty.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
However, it is also possible that every character becoming slavishly loyal to Baam is just poor writing. Too soon to tell, really.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
So is Baam really a regular, then? Lahel was not expected, but he was.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
The blond guy in the trash heap was the one Yuri sent out to look for Baam, I think. He is obviously not Baam himself.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
drat, they've picked up an idiot child translator somewhere. I hate those things.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Everyone was using shinsoo. Baam has been able to move through shinsoo like it isn't there ever since he fought the snake. The cheap bomb was a conventional explosive, to which Baam has no immunity.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
If Baam was unable to enhance his physical ability with shinsoo he would be slower than anyone else. Baam's talents are that he is largely immune to shinsoo, has a natural knack for learning shinsoo techniques, and doesn't follow the laws of physics when using it. He might have picked up a few things since then, but those have been his irregular irregularities thus far.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
It is a tower. By definition, it is indoors. No one can see outside the tower, which implies there are no windows. So yeah, having someone who can produce light on demand seems useful outside of the beaten path. The spear thing is because in areas of heavy shinsoo, only piercing weapons work. Blunt and slashing meet too much resistance.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Korean webtoons aren't really what you'd normally think of as webcomics. Some other good webtoons are Noblesse and to a lesser extent Trace.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Doc Hawkins posted:

Maybe it's actually not Baam?

Considering he already had a flashback as Baam once the subject of being alone came up, that doesn't seem too likely.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
The name Hatsu sounds familiar. Has he appeared before?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
So, does anyone else think that Baam is definitely not going to tolerate a test proctor trying to screw him this time?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Doc Hawkins posted:

Really should be a Korean Manwha/Webcomics Megathread.

Also a :korea: emote with crying cabbage.

Then make one.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Whaleporn posted:

When every single character is a sociopath so they all blend together it's hard to care who beats who, there's 0 tension because you almost invariably don't give a poo poo.

There was one nice character in Veritas, but the setting did not exactly treat her kindly.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Baam is climbing the tower after being horribly screwed by the test proctors. Now he is part of an organization pretty much every proctor who works to filter out dangerous elements would want to stop. This probably isn't the first ranker he has had to fight, and it certainly won't be the last.

Baam isn't just a very skilled wave controller. He is an irregular, and the normal rules of shinsoo physics and whatnot simply don't apply to him. He is stronger than the last test would indicate, and it indicated he was very strong, indeed.

Plus, look at the size of that guy. He probably isn't a physical brawler, which means he uses shinsoo. Long story short, shortie is hosed.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

OneDeadman posted:

Didn't the administrator challenge Baam to a game of some sorts a while back?

I don't think it's going to be a straight-up fight.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/tower_of_god/c089/10.html
His stated goal is to eliminate Baam. If Baam simply failed the test he could take it again. So yeah, I'd say he is going to try to kill Baam.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

cooldude2.0 posted:

The rules are so complicated, but in this series that means we're going to see amazing strategizing and twists. Well, if Koon were around that's what it would mean.

I think the meta reason he's a member of FUG is that Zahard Princesses aren't allowed to hook up. Clearly he has to defeat Zahard to get with Yuri. The plot reason is they're the ones who engineered the whole betrayal by Rachel to hide him, which would mean the guy who first tested Baam and Rachel has ties to FUG.

If that was the case, why would Baam have abandoned even the concept of friendship? If no one else even saw Baam's body, why was it necessary to stab him in the back? Why would Rachel have lied and then used Baam's friends to carry her rear end up to the top of the tower? Rachel's betrayal was exactly what it seemed.

The entire system of regulars and tests is designed to keep Zahard on top. The androgynous coffee maniac was just doing his job when he conspired to murder Baam. Why wouldn't Baam want to rebel against a system whose express purpose is to kill him? Likewise, for FUG an irregular with a grudge and no attachments seems like a prime recruit.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Left posted:

How do we know all of this craziness isn't a prequel to what we saw in season 1?

Because Viole is Baam and has been having flashbacks to season 1, Yuri sent out an agent to find Baam but she went out in person during season 1, and there was a brief reference to one of Baam's friends who seems to have died.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Yeah, he probably just froze her and walked through her flames.

It is a foregone conclusion that Baam will lose this game. After all, if he won he wouldn't continue on with his new supporting cast. I don't think he will get beaten up, because if that ranker was able to do so he would probably kill Baam. So, 7 people. Emoticon guy, rear end in a top hat with a daughter, 'the Zahard prince' (whatever that means), teamkiller, the devil arm guy, and two others. I'd actually prefer if the last two were the loanshark and the spoiled kid, because the little girl, glasses girl and effeminate roommate are all sort of boring.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Edge Zero posted:

Either that or they find a loophole and make a team that includes Baam.

He might lose the game, or he might relent and pick people. Regardless, he isn't getting his way about going on alone.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I'm hoping that Baam loses the game but still beats the poo poo out of that ranker.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Baam is going to move up regardless because he passed the last test. This right here only determines if he continues alone or with a team. Well, that's the stated purpose, but the ranker still wants to stop Baam from advancing entirely. Because Baam's moving up isn't dependent on this test, the implication is that he wants to kill or cripple Baam.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Cbouncerrun posted:

People higher up in the tower have gotta have some sort of defense against that, it's getting a bit ridiculous.

Well, obviously. Otherwise that redhead would be a lot more influential than he is.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I always got the idea that irregulars were usually monstrously strong right from the start. Baam is only potentially so, but he can do things no one else can. I wonder what he could do with black march at his current level?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Panzerschwein posted:

It's funny to think back about Black March, because at the beginning of the series I really thought she was going to be Baam's sidekick throughout his whole adventure through the tower.

I'm sure she will come back sooner or later.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Silver2195 posted:

Maybe when he said he'd totally want Androssi as a slave?

Be nice. That comment was the closest he will ever have to a relationship.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Mo_Steel posted:

Based on the rumor the tester heard I'm beginning to wonder if Viole isn't part of FUG. I think the author would've showed Viole killing the regular if he had been the one to do it. It seems more likely to me that Viole is a lone wolf or part of a separate group, and that he just happened to wind up in a group with a FUG member. Everyone takes him for a member of FUG even though he isn't.

He said flat out that he was a member of FUG. He is wearing a FUG outfit. Normally only rankers can become members, but Viole is an irregular so normal rules don't apply to him. He had a choice between killing a specific person, passing a specific person, or passing alone. He chose to pass alone. They didn't show Viole killing the regular because it never happened.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
That ranker has no idea Baam is an irregular. I'm still not sure if Baam can straight up beat a ranker, but things won't go the way the midget wants.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I don't think anyone in this arc has the sort of specialized skills it would take to exorcise the team killer.

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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
There was never any indication that Rachel did not betray Baam. Otherwise, why would she have actually stabbed him? No one was observing them in the bubble. Baam doesn't have any special resistance to being stabbed, drowning or water pressure. It isn't clear how he survived, but it certainly wasn't due to anything Rachel did.

Rachel accepted the deal to kill Baam. She stabbed Baam. She used Baam's death as a way to get carried to the top of the tower. So, obviously this was all a clever ruse by someone who had never demonstrated any particular resourcefulness.

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