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Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Oh no I've caught up just in time to meet Young Zahard and he looks more like a little kid dressed up like a superhero. :allears:

edit: We got a bunch of shots of him from the back before, sure, but in those he looked more like a hero from like Greek myths and stuff, so seeing him full on as a dorklord loser is so, so good.

Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jan 15, 2018

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Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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I can't wait for a month long training montage that consists of Eduan just hitting Baam with unique supermoves so he can effortlessly dunk on Zahard. :v:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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He's keeping to the letter of the agreement, but definitely not the spirit. Figured he'd try and pull some kinda trick after he said there'd be no traps, but man. Couldn't even wait.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Jose posted:

its been a while since there was any mention of positions. they've always been a bit of an odd concept like why doesn't everyone have a light house

Broadly speaking, my understanding of it was that it was a matter of capability and specialisation. Sure, anyone can throw a spear or control Shinsoo but not anyone can do it well. For a while, it was implied that folks could only do one effectively and while that degree of specialisation seems to be enough to become a Ranker, it seems like every High Ranker can fill any role just as well, if not better, than an otherwise dedicated specialist anyway.

Considering the roles everyone is still using was given to them on the second floor, it might just be an oddly generous thing about the way climbing the tower works. Rather than try to learn everything off the bat, just do the one you're already best suited for and maybe learn the rest later if it becomes necessary. Or later on, folks following the normal route would run into multiclassing being a requirement to finish a floor's test.

Ultimately, it's pretty much moot though. The roles exist because they're traditional, not because they're necessarily important any more. They're from when Zahard and co. climbed the Tower originally and they're all named after stuff to do with fishing because the biggest threats and problems were the shinheuh, rather than other (ir)regulars.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
I love Rak's logic. I make a stone shield, so if I eat rocks I can make rocks!

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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The skill Enryu's known for the creation of real, genuine life. The red aura thing that Baam's orb has was a thing that Enryu had as well, yeah, but it wasn't a skill; all Shinsoo around Enryu turned red, regardless of the source. That's where his sobriquet of Red Tower came from after all. That's probably more got something to do with the outside God since Enryu was their prophet and Baam was taken out of the tower because of them.

I guess he might use the Red Rain skill that Enryu used against the Administrator, but I feel like it was implied that was only doable because Enryu controlled a functionally impossible number of baangs in the first place. I don't see Baam going from 5 to 9000 over the course of one incomplete training session.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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He even knew it would happen back when he started eating 'em! His logic is always Rak solid.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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The red lobster-y thing isn't a fake Thorn or whatever. It's a remnant of a demon (that may or may not be a Living Ignition Weapon like Beta) that was sealed on the second floor before being sealed inside Baam by FUG. All we know of its power right now is that it can heal Baam, albeit not super-well which is why we've seen it very rarely, and might be capable of using the real Thorn.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-299/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=380

The fight with (Data) Zahard finally begins. :allears:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Twenty-Fifth Night Style made me unreasonably hyped for whatever's coming next. :allears:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Now that Baam is fighting like himself, we can see really clearly that he is just as disgustingly powerful as every other Irregular (except maybe Rachel, but she's an irregular Irregular to begin with). He already had shades of it with his perfect mimicry and Shinsoo control capabilities, but now he's not just getting carried by that and the Thorn.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
The best part about that is that Yuri is somewhere in the top 500 of the High Rankers and she can do all sorts of wacky nonsense. Meanwhile, Evan's in the top 100 and while he's definitely an absurdly good Guide and has a bunch of really good Items to use, that alone doesn't get you into the top fraction of the best people in the Tower of all time.

Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 14:38 on May 21, 2018

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
Phantaminium is rank 1 (presumably because he's literally a God), Enryu is rank 2 (because he killed an Administrator), Zahard is rank 3 (because he got outranked twice :v:) and Mazino is rank 4.

Rank 5 is Arie Hon, one of the Great Family Leaders and White's dad; rank 6 is Koon Eduan, another Family leader and Koon Aguero Agnes' dad of course.

Rank 7 and 8 are both Zahard Princesses; 7 is Adori Zahard, and the wielder of the only S-Rank weapon from the 13 Months (Golden November). 8 is Eurasia Enne Zahard and she's currently sealed away somewhere with the Colorless December making collecting all 13 Months impossible.

Rank 9 is Baek Ryun, Urek's friend and co-founder of Wolhaiksong.

Rank 10 is Ha Yurin, last Family leader in the top 10 and she's Yuri's great-grandmother.

Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 23, 2018

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Shugojin posted:

Urek is however the strongest person who anyone has seen in forever.

He is also the coolest and the best demonstration possible that Princesses are clearly attracted to Irregulars in general and not just Baam specifically. :v:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
Not all the 13 Months are Needles. Black March is a very powerful Needle, but it's only a B-Rank weapon (A-Rank when Ignited).

Silver January is owned by An Zahard. Rank and Type are currently unknown;
White February was given to someone but Enne killed her and took it before she went mad and got sealed up. Zahard's got this one back and it's not in the possession of any Princess right now;
Green April's a 7B-Rank Hook (implied A when Ignited) and Yuri's currently in possession of that one too;
Yellow May is owed by Koon Maschenny Zahard. Rank and Type are currently unknown;
Luminous June is one of a whole two Swords and is in the possession of Alphid Zahard. Rank is unknown;
Indigo July is in the possession of Garam right now. Rank and Type are currently unknown;
Blue August is also in the possession of Garam right now. Rank and Type are currently unknown;
Dark September is a complete enigma. Where it is, who has it, its rank and type are all unknown;
Red October is the other Sword. Arie Hagipherione Zahard has it, which is pretty fitting because the Arie family are good with swords. Rank is unknown;
Golden November is the only S-Rank weapon of the 13. Adori Zahard, strongest active Princess, has it but the weapon type is unspecified;
Colorless December is in Enne's possession so it cannot be acquired easily. Rank and Type are currently unknown, though you can sort of see it in a blurry small form in some panels;
Rainbow Undecimber isn't even a weapon. It's an Arms Inventory and has never been given to any Princess so Zahard still has this one too.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Rachel is unique, even by Irregular standards, because she shouldn't be in the Tower at all. Every regular Irregular was chosen by the Tower to fulfill some kind of purpose and affect the Tower as a whole, and so it let them in. Every Regular was chosen by Headon as their equivalent of the 1F task, which is why almost every one else starts on 2F. Rachel was brought in by accident, when the Tower was trying to let Baam in, and Headon explicitly rubbed that fact in her face.

By all accounts, Rachel inherently has no real potential or anything in the same way an Irregular does and may very well never become as powerful as Baam is now, never mind equivalent to a Great Family head. That comparison is a bit disingenuous, since they were still let in by the Tower itself. Rachel is an irregular Irregular and there's no (known) precedent for her situation, so her potential is a complete unknown.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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lil baby anime posted:

I really don't understand the positions at all since they seem like don't even matter honestly.

That's because they don't. They're an archaic holdover from when Zahard and co. climbed the Tower originally. They're based more around being able to deal with the Shinheuh and other natural obstacles and issues in the Tower. It's a traditional thing, rather than something that tells you anything useful or important for the sort of climb that folks do now.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
There's "several" rings, but we only know of the two so far. It's pretty clear that the implication that there's more, especially since the rings together form half of the key of the Tower which allegedly grants access to floor 135. The 13 Month weapons make the other half of it, which makes sense when you remember that they were originally made for Zahard and all 12 of the 10 Great Family heads and all.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Jose posted:

I didn't realise we were slightly behind

Webtoon, the site, does that all the time. They refuse to even actively translate some raws until they have entire seasons of backlog to push out one chapter a week for some reason. It can sometimes get so bad that they have the audacity to call Dr. Frost completed despite being only 2 "seasons" done, because the raw for season 3 isn't finished. Stuff that a lot of people read isn't quite that bad though - as far as I can tell, Noblesse and DICE are only a month or so behind, for example.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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I was not expecting anything relating to Arvin Lou.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Hodgepodge posted:

Also, watch Jahad start a loving war :rolleyes:

2 wars, even!

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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I feel like it's more likely to be that, yeah. The Hidden Floor doesn't exist any more, so it can't really delete your memories about itself at this point.

It could also just be Baam being Baam, I guess, though.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Hodgepodge posted:

We also don't really know how they compare, at all. Urek is ranked higher because Jahad hasn't done anything since long before Urek entered the Tower.

Urek is ranked one spot below Zahard. The only people who outrank him are Phantaminium and Enryu, for what we know are obvious reasons.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
The Red Thryssa was unable to be harmed by Urek Mazino, who himself is an Irregular don't forget, because it was a fragment of an Administrator. Baam was only able to change that because the Thorn also has the power of an Administrator. Evankhell would be just as screwed as Mazino was in that scenario, if not more, because she is a Regular High Ranker. Joe himself is a nobody loser, sure, but the power of an Administrator trumps almost everything.

If any ol' High Ranker could get around that, it wouldn't be a big deal that Enryu was otherwise unique for doing so in the first place.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Last station stuff should be fun, at least. Ship's Team is back at last, gently caress yeah :allears:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/tower-of-god/season-2-ep-315/viewer?title_no=95&episode_no=396

So much stuff is going down this arc, it's great.

Hatsu is still the best, but Baam dueling with the God of Guardians like its the most casual thing ever is pretty drat great. ...To say nothing of how intense and insane the final stop is gonna be.

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Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

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Sindai posted:

Time for a new thread title

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