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Other recommendation: Hitman #34 : One of the rare instances of Garth Ennis not pooping all over a superhero. A pretty good story of Superman being a guy who fails, worries about what he represents and can just be written as a "guy" if you know how to approach it.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2011 21:30 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 11:33 |
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Flynn Taggart posted:I get so sick of people bitching about Supes. All the time I hear "He's boring", "He's too overpowered", all that jazz. Most of these people have never even read or seen a proper story, they just judge him based on the some preconceived notions. I'll keep rooting for him. I feel the same. You sometimes get people reacting to scenes/scanned pages from a Superman story and they're all "oh I never knew Superman could have so much heart or whatever" and its like, of course you never knew! You never read anything with him in it and just decided he was your idea of that character!
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2011 15:53 |
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Additional Recommended reading: Superman: Kryptonite The first arc of the Superman: Confidential book, its Darwyn Cooke's version/vision of Superman's first meeting with Kryptonite, an update from the first Kryptonite comic book story from 1949. Cooke writes, again, a Superman who is just a real person who doesnt know the limits of his invulnerabilty and isnt anxious to find out if theres one. He also gives Superman a certain pride/vanity about appearing weak in front of Lois Lane that is an intriguing character wrinkle for the guy.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2011 04:28 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tdxSl7NCmI
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2011 01:03 |
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ChuckDHead posted:So does this person really hate Dean Cain or something? It would appear so! I liked the show a lot but it was pretty rough action/sfx-wise, but they tried very hard. Theres a "funny" bit in Lois and Clark when they had their version of Metallo, Superman defeated him by hovering out of his reach and just melted his legs with his heat vision. It was a really cruel way to defeat him and combined with the actor's performance, it was horrific.
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2011 05:11 |
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Skwirl posted:Which makes the Supergirl outfit even more loving ridiculous, "Better have armor on my upper body, but nothing at all will ever happen to my thighs." If she's nigh invulnerable then whatever outfit she wears you can just chalk up to the character's sense of style, but if you are going to go out of your way to say that the outfit serves a protective function, then you need to design it so that it makes some sort of sense. She mentions that she shouldnt have been wearing her outfit before graduation--so maybe hers isnt battle armor, but then why would it look like Superman's outfit so much? Oh well. Maybe Kryptonians just get armors for graduations.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2011 15:27 |
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Himuro posted:I really liked Superman #1. Anyone else read it? The changes to the Daily Planet's structure and Lois and Clark's relationship have a lot of potential. The same. I love Superman and have no problem with change, but there are immutable things about the characters that you cant touch. Superman #1 mixes up all that is mutable in a pretty cool, modern way. I'll miss their marriage, but this new status quo works well. And the whole "Superman is sort of sullen and cynical, now!" works, because he's Superman and he's pissed that a Fox News-alike has bought the Daily Planet and restructed the business. Somehow, its like Superman isnt pleased at the changes from his continuity so you go along with him and you understand his attitude.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 20:31 |
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Action Comics 2 is fantastic indeed. I wish the next Superman movie looked like this--its a handy blueprint anyways. Previous Superman characters are fitted in seemlessly, lots of action and still, a believable, brash young man of steel.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2011 16:07 |
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Why cookie Rocket posted:It's transparently so that they can sell more "they get married!" issues later. I like all those elements, but they really should be used to pinpoint different phases in Superman's life. I liked the Kents, but there's something stronger about them if they only exist in his Smallville/Superboy life. Lori Lemaris should be in his college years (and can pop up to remind him of that time) and so on... Its similar with Krypto, altough theres a nice image of an older Superman surrounded by a super-family with a super-dog that feels right.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2011 15:28 |
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I also like a Superman who talks back. He can mellow out when he's older, but talking back to an rear end like General Lane, its all good.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2011 01:35 |
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Liberal Idiot posted:And am I the only one who thinks Clark's source is Luthor? After all, Lex would know Clark would be idealistic enough to keep after Glenmorgan, and it's a way for him to manipulate someone else to take down his competition. Using a classical reference as his code word for Glenmorgan is another classic Luthor touch. Unless this is all completely obvious to everyone, I thought it was a strong possibility. I was wondering about that. Lex Luthor using Clark to secure himself in Metropolis would be pretty good twist and a nice way to intertwine those characters (it always adds to them when they pull that kind of stuff off). Also, its a simple thing but a detail like Clark's dufflebag having the Smallville Crows logo from Smallville is a nice touch.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2011 22:20 |
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Die Laughing posted:I think the white shirt just shows that it's not about the colors, but the symbol. He might wear a red shirt or a green shirt before he decides the official look for Superman. Yeah, I like the notion that Clark might just have a closet-full of different (cheap) tshirts with the symbol ironed on. It adds to this current look.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2011 06:12 |
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Joe Don Baker posted:I actually have to disagree with how they wrote Clark. Every season would start or end with him FINALLY deciding to become a superhero and then something dumb happens to make him change his mind. I love Smallville and I wouldnt say its lovely because a) it lasted 10 years, so it did something right b) lovely falls short of describing it. Smallville is a pretty singular tv show. Never seen a show that could be so brilliant and so bad--sometimes in the same episode. Its nuts. The writing on Clark is one of the show's biggest question marks. Tom Welling isnt the best actor in the world, but when he's given actual material (romcom stuff with Erica Durance, playing evil versions of himself, etc) he gets into it and comes alive. For some reason, for more than HALF of the show's run, regular Clark is written as a bland, non-dynamic guy. If they had written him anything like the guy we're seeing in Action Comics right now, the show would've been much more different.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2012 21:32 |
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Lurdiak posted:That's not even close to a measure of quality and you know it. Look, in my opinion, something that is lovely is ill-thought of, shoddily made and barely gets out of the assembly line. There is something to be said about a show that runs and runs for ten years. Not saying its the best show ever, not saying its lovely either.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2012 22:27 |
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Dantes Redux posted:Two and a half men. I think that show is televised disease, but its a pretty flawless delivery machine for all those terrible jokes, through even terribler characters.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2012 21:45 |
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Lurdiak posted:So your idea of something lovely is something unsuccessful, and no matter how terrible something is, if it were lovely it would just get wiped out by the invisible hand of the free market? A show that runs for a long time obviously has a lot of stuff figured out and there's a craftmanship to running a show like that. It doesnt necessarily make it good, but I think it excludes it from being lovely (which would be the worst since we're comparing it to poo poo!).
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2012 22:08 |
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It doenst get any weirder than JLA ever did.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2012 03:16 |
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Wade Wilson posted:I saw a commercial for Smallville once that looked like it had a ridiculous low-budget version of Dr. Fate in it (as in, low budget TV show CG Dr. Fate, complete with helmet and cape and crazy pink lasers) and the Justice League tower, did that ever actually happen in the show or am I misremembering it? It did happen. In its last 3 seasons, with a shift in creative teams, Smallville actually became a superhero soap show. You can defintely see the shortcomings in almost all of their special effects and other shenanigans but at the same time I cant help but smile that they did the Justice Society on a budget.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2012 17:15 |
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Of course, this was obviously not the intent of the creators, and only goes to show how bad the show was. I think it was. Sometimes in interviews, you could feel the smarm and how clever they felt about having a show where Lex Luthor was more sympathetic, like they had turned the entire thing on its head.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 05:46 |
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ImpAtom posted:To be honest I feel the same way. I might not after a few issues but I found it a really interesting universe to at least look in on. Totally agree, he could rotate through different parallel Supermans once in a while and I would love it.
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# ¿ May 8, 2012 00:21 |
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Opopanax posted:That would be awesome; who says Superman has to be about Earth-1 Superman only? It would be the way to "franchise"-up Superman the same way Batman Inc and all the multiple Corps stuff did for Green Lantern.
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# ¿ May 8, 2012 03:25 |
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Magic Love Hose posted:So someone on Twitter says he's read Superman: Earth One: Book Two. I hope he's kidding: He's not. Its salted dog poo.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2012 23:12 |
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I've been reading a lot of Byrne's Superman reboot for the first time in years and I'm enjoying it a lot. All of his pages are groaning with thought balloons over-explaining everything but there's a lot of neat sci-fi stuff and generally solid foundation and drama for a lot of the Superman mythos--it remains a good bunch of books to give out to someone who doesnt get Superman or his possibilities, story-wise.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2013 17:29 |
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Oh man, we're really entering a Superman dark age here. The Snyder book should be good.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2013 20:58 |
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bobkatt013 posted:If he is not taken off it before the first issue. He is one of their star writers, on a book with the co-publisher. Its pretty unlikely.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2013 23:27 |
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Rhyno posted:Not if you don't care for Jim Lee's art anymore. I do, so its GREAT NEWS for me!
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2013 15:11 |
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Action Comics 25 is GREAT! Greg Pak does really good stuff with young t-shirt Superman.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2013 00:17 |
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bobkatt013 posted:It says that smallville had good ideas It had tons. It didn't go anywhere with them (Smallville ended up existing in a weird stretch of pop-culture and tv history) but it had a lot of good ideas. Never have I seen a show walk right up to a great idea/take on an established character and just walk past it.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2014 02:26 |
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As always, Paktion comics delivers! It's always odd to me to read reviews and people reading this going "Oh wow, a more human Superman! He's one of us now! I can relate!" when this is exactly the same dude Pak has been writing about for two years.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 02:59 |
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I'm pretty sure it's the first time Jonathan and Martha were given those jobs but they're GREAT ideas for the characters. The idea of them sort of having wound up in Smallville but hanging in there is really cool.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2015 22:55 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 11:33 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:Preview for Neal Adams' Coming of the Supermen #1 I've read this and it felt like a pretty hyper version of the 90s Super-books, filled with running plots, but crazier and with that awesome Adams art. It made me wish I liked Henry Cavill's Superman more because the dude looks drawn by Neal Adams.
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