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Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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TheKingPuuChuu posted:

So I guess a shop in North Carolina thinks that Superman is a huge Christian, and would never say "God".

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/08/north-carolina-comic-shop-to-boycott-action-comics/


Ugh. It's comics, people. COMICS.

Also, I don't think Superman was saying "god", to me it looked more like a gutteral noise. Thoughts?
Yeah, Morrison always uses seemingly random consonants mashed together to make unconventional noises.

This story is about a week or so old, actually, though I just realized this is the first time I'm seeing it mentioned here in BSS. Morrison responded that it was, in fact, just a noise, and the jackass half-stepped back so that he didn't admit he was really wrong, just that his boycott would end and he would continue ordering Action Comics, while at the same time still denegrating all those who negatively commented on his facebook page. In short, I really hope the people that shop there take their business elsewhere, as it's certainly not being a good or reliable businessman to cancel orders and disappoint your customers at the drop of a hat.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Sep 15, 2011

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Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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I think what shocked me the most about Superman #1 was how long of a read it was. Perez really packed the dialogue in, but it never felt overly wordy. The art was a lot better than I expected when I first saw the pencilled previews, and the layouts were fantastic it felt like it had twice as many pages as it did. I can't say I prefer it to Action, and I still hated those last couple pages in Lois' apartment building, but it's a far cry from the dysmal mess I expected it to be. I think I'll be sticking with it for a little bit.

Edit: Another thing I really enjoyed was how many supporting characters there were. My first exposure to Superman was during the death/return, and something I really enjoyed from that era were all the ancilliary characters floating around the Planet. This feels like a bit of a return to that, and I enjoy the hell out of it. It also makes the idea that Clark Kent can be a big shot while at the same time just being another cog in the wheel who people don't notice too much. My only hope as far as the future goes is Lois doesn't spend every issue in that tv control room, I like her a lot more when she's right where the action is, even though that trope has been done to death.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Sep 29, 2011

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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I am absolutely blown away by what I'm reading. Action is so fresh and vibrant even when Superman is at his most limited, I can't wait to see what Morrison has up his sleeve once he's at full strength. The use of his heat vision like a whip was ingenious, and seemed like something that should have been done years ago but never was.

As I said in the DC thread, I was originally a bit bummed that the story page count for Action #2 was lower than before, but those extras with Morrison and Morales explaining all of the elements to the book were genuinely awesome to read about. I love that Luthor is written to be the embodiment of the shittiest traits of humanity, which are (according to Morrison) "constantly talking crap and drinking energy drinks".

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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I continue to enjoy the hell out of Superman with issue 2. More than any other element of the new timeline, I really love Clark's attitude. At times it's a little passive agressive, but for a new interpretation it's quite fascinating and unpredictable, since he has no problems calling people out instead of sitting back in the shadows trying at all cost not to make waves at work.

Also, for anyone who can't wait until next week, Entertainment Weekly has the first 5 pages of Action Comics #3 up, with some great artwork by Gene Ha.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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I continue to love this series to death, but this issue was a bit less straightforward than 2. The panel of the homeless guy (who looked suspiciously like that tiny guy with glasses talking to Glennmorgan in #1) telling Clark about the ghost dog was really abrupt, but I'm sure it'll be one of those things that makes perfect sense in retrospect. The Corben/Brainiac twist threw me for a loop as well, although explicitly mentioning his heart exploding was a brilliant way to set up his inevitable creation as Metallo. It's certainly a much more interesting origin than we got in the Byrne years, and a lot more compelling than what Johns did in Secret Origin.

I was a little annoyed at the drop in bonus material quality this month, mostly because I want to hear about Morrison's thoughts on his series, not what Perez/Lobdell/Green are doing in the other titles. It definitely doesnt seem like this was planned from the beginning, especially with the 3.99 price tag. Maybe Morales couldn't keep up with the pagecount, and they added this in as filler until the John Henry Irons backup story begins.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Nov 3, 2011

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Dec 5, 2003
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The Goon posted:

Did anyone actually read the bonus material at the end of Action? Specifically the interview with Perez, where he mentions that Clark, Superman and Lois actually have no romantic feelings for each other whatsoever, that the spark between them has never even existed and that they just want to be platonic friends?
It was a weirdly worded blurb, because the statement "Lois just wants to be Clark's friend" could be taken as-is, given that Clark clearly showed he was bummed/jealous overhearing her talk to her boyfriend at the end of Superman 1. Until I see anything contrary in the comics, it seems like the new status quo is "Lois isn't chasing Superman around lovestruck, Superman has better things to do than date her in costume, Lois thinks of Clark as a friend, and Clark holds back feelings about Lois."

Given how fast writers tend to run out of ideas when they completely split up power couples, I'm willing to bet we'll at least be back to "both have hidden feelings for each other/will-they-wont-they" within a few years. Even faster if sales drop off and DC thinks they can keep readers hooked with romantic tension. Plus, different writers will probably want to do different things with the character. Morrison clearly has his own storylines happening, but it doesn't seem like he's necessarily being given architectual control over the mythos and what occurs in the other books.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Magic Love Hose posted:

Anyone else get a copy where Superman was wearing a white shirt all the way throughout? I thought that was... odd.
Are there any copies that don't have the white? I think it could have been intended, unless the colorist completely dropped the ball in both the main feature AND backup. I figured since his blue shirt had been torn to hell so much he didn't have time to sew it all up and just had a backup shirt. Also his costume still looked fantastic even with the white shirt. It's such a shame he's going to get the kryptonian suit he has in the present, I would love it if he kept the jeans and t-shirt forever.

I was thrown for a loop when I saw the last page say "Continued in Action Comics #7". I knew that Kubert was going to join Morrison for a couple issues, but I didn't think it'd mean the main story would get the brakes thrown on it. I wonder how it'll all fit together, given that it's already taking place in the past, and the solicits say that the issues will feature the Legion of Super Heroes. Maybe some kind of flash-forward?

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Magic Love Hose posted:

Today I realize that Metal-Zero is also spelled "Metal-0."

It took me nearly a week. I'm a moron.
Better start building the moron clubhouse, because I'm in the club too. Wow.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Rags Morales did a quick Q&A thread over on the CBR forums, and while nothing substantial came out, he talked briefly about the white shirt in Action #4, and how it was intentional as per Morrison's script:

Rags Morales posted:

Imagine you're an alien and you're trying to reach out to the masses, but they're not having it. What's that about? Is it the hair? The shoes? They used to love you but all of a sudden they don't. Oh, I've got it! I'll change my shirt to white and have a red, white, and blue scheme. Now the Americans know I'm on THEIR side.

If I had my way, they'd drop the backup story idea and each issue would contain annotations for the previous issue. I think a lot more people would come to appreciate the subtleties of Morrison who right now think he's just a loon with a hard-on for the golden age Supes.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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I was really apprehensive about how a time-traveling arc with present-day Superman would work in the context of this current arc, but this might be my favorite issue since #1. So much more "Morrison-y" than the past couple, and very interesting that the ship AI is actually Braniac considering everyone figured that's who the Collector Of Worlds was. Definitely interested to see how this all unfolds, and even moreso to see how this will read the second time around when the whole arc is collected. The art by Andy Kubert was also stellar and I hope he does more Superman work soon. I definitely don't think this issue would have been as strong with Morale's on pencils.

I also dug the backup about the Kents. Definitely what the book needed after the lackluster Steel backup.

Edit: That goat reveal is the first time in well over a year a comic has made me belly laugh. I'm glad that, between that and the phantom zone stuff, Morrison quickly put an end to the issue 2 debate about Krypto-goat.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jan 5, 2012

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Dec 5, 2003
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Lurdiak posted:

I'm starting to think we're just never going to get back to the adventures of Worker's Rights Superman
Probably not, as this arc is going to end with him in the current super-suit. The book is focusing on the end-days of his "outside the law" streak (given what was mentioned in the present-day Supes title). That's not to say, going forward, fully costumed Superman won't have that same rebellious spirit in him, but anyone who thought that this was going to be a long-form Adventures Of Socialist Superman book was getting their hopes up a bit too high.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Action #6 reminded me of when I first started reading Morrison comics; I had absolutely no idea what was happening, but I loved every moment of it. I especially loved how organically all of the flashbacks were incorporated, and I'm glad Morrison is acknowledging that much of his upbringing remains exactly the same despite the changes (meeting the legion at a young age, having Pete and Lana as best friends, pulling some silver age superboy-esque stunts across town, etc). Phenomenal.

Also, maybe it's just me, but it seems like the Kent house now uses the exact floorplan from the one on Smallville.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Every issue of Action Comics outdoes the previous one. I loved the clever transition from jeans-wearing Golden Age supes into the super-suit Silver Age Superman at the exact point he goes from fighting golden age-esque corruption to having to deal with 1950's sci-fi stuff. I'm probably going to be downright suicidal when the day comes that Morrison announces he's leaving the book. And despite my past gripes about Morales' art, this issue was probably his best work of the run.

Even the backup stories are becoming consistantly good. This was a much better Steel backup than the last one.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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I just realized that the tie of Glennmorgan's the bartender was holding in issue 7 was the same one he left with way at the beginning of issue 1. I wonder what the significance of that is/will be.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Superman #7 still isn't approaching as great as Action Comics, but the writing has improved by leaps and bounds over what Perez did. I'm glad I kept this on my pull list.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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And that's a wrap on the first arc. It's a shame that Johns was in charge of rebooting the JLA and establishing the world being introduced to a team of heroes, because the tone at the end of Action 8 felt way more in line with how the real world would react to entering the age of the superhero; a mixture of confusion and hope. It was also great, after so many of the past issues having his spirit nearly broken by public opinion turning on him, to see Superman get back to being the guy with the puffed out chest and beaming smile we all recognize.

So, any guesses on the Kryptonian being spoken in the last few pages of the book?

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Quidnose posted:

This has probably been covered in the thread, but can someone explain to me what the hell happened in Action Comics 5 & 6? This is my first real introduction to the Superman universe beyond reading Secret Origin a million years ago and I seriously have no idea what the hell just happened with all this time travelling crap. :v is there something else I'm supposed to have read?
Well first, the biggest issue is that the issues have less than nothing to do with the arc they were in the middle of. 5 and 6 were supposed to happen immediately following the conclusion of the origin arc, but the artist is notoriously late with everything so Morrison switched the issues around. So right off the bat you can forget any tie-in to the origin arc because there really was none.

As for what happened, I don't have the issues directly in front of me, so this may be a little jumbled or off:
The Anti-Superman Army travels through time and steals Kryptonite from the rocket. Superman travels back in time with the Legion to stop them, but he's too late, they've disappeared. Where they've disappered to is a lair located within a lead pellet in Superman's brain. The pellet got there at some point in the future because Nimrod the Hunter (who will be showing up in the next issue) shot it there with a teleportation gun. The Legion senses that they're in the pellet with the villains, so they must've gone back to the future and gone undercover to infiltrate the lair. So they do. But when they're discovered, the little man unleashes the kryptonite, within Supermains brain, which poisons him. However, he uses the rocket like a conduit to sap the Kryptonite energy from his system, restoring it and curing Superman.

I think.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Jun 2, 2012

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Die Laughing posted:

What you called the Brainiac ship was the vessel that brought Kal-El to Earth as a baby.
That's right. Fixed it for the future.

I guess I'm too much of a literalist because I refer to the giant ship as the Collector ship, and the rocket as Brainiac because of the AI, but the collector is basically Brainiac as well.

Slightly related, I wish that issue had annotations. That and the President Superman issue have been the most deeply perplexing so far.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Yeah, the book skips around a bit but ultimately ends up shortly after the League has assembled. Which, speaking of, I'm glad that Morrison took the time to show Superman wanting to solve bigger problems but the league shooting him down, resulting in the "we get together only when we need to" relationship the new League has. You'd think Johns would want to put that kind of critical info in HIS title, but it's a good thing Morrison picked up the slack nonetheless.

It's really fascinating how already we're seeing many of the threads coming together thanks to Morrison's non-linear storytelling. I like how this is already starting two amazing sounding concurrent storylines, and still tying into the Anti-Superman Army we saw back in issues 5 and 6. I'm really stoked for the "First Superman" story he's putting together, which seems to be hinting that he's incorporating/drawing inspiration from Siegel and Shuster's original pitch for Superman a bit.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Deep Winter posted:

So, uh, was anyone else half way through the issue before it dawned, "Oh. Yeah. This issue was about Nimrod the Hunter". Which was promptly resolved in five pages out of 30. The concept is pretty cool, if a copy of Kraven, but it seems the entire point was to enlist him into the anti-superman army.

So, clark kent is dead. In issue ten. He aint Superman, he cant just reappear unharmed. Superman said a line to Mr/s. Nippleittlepix that if s/he reveals his identity, clark kent will die, and pop up somewhere else. Superman of Africa? Help out batwing?
It's going to be interesting to see how this is resolved, because of course we know that ultimately he will get to be Clark Kent again, simply because he's still Clark in present day. This issue takes place shortly after the Justice League is formed, 5 years ago.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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meltor posted:

I'm not spoilering the coming questions because if that's how we did things here then every single thread would just be big black boxes.

Action Comics is currently five years behind "the current date," correct?

In what "current date" book is it established that he still goes by Clark Kent?

Does anyone have any idea what Superman means when he tells his landlord "I wasn't there" regarding the explosion? I feel like that is kind of a key element here and I am probably missing something.
The most recent issue of Action takes place very shortly after the League has formed, and definitely after the Collector has been defeated. At the time the suicide bomber blew himself up, Clark had yet to even meet Perry White. So, looking ahead at the vanilla book where he's still able to be Clark, it's safe to assume this isn't some radically different change to the status quo, but part of a storyline.

Him telling his landlady as Superman that "I wasn't there" was to make her believe that Superman and Clark are different people, and that Clark really is dead, since she found his clothes in the first arc and figured out he's Superman. But Superman seems bent on making everyone believe Clark is dead for the time being. Why that is remains to be seen.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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meltor posted:

This broke my brain. What is the "vanilla" book?
The other Superman book, which is set in current time with the rest of the DC universe. People on comic boards are referring to it as the vanilla book because of its lack of a distinctive name, plus it's inoffensive make-no-waves content.

d00gZ posted:

Yo, the First Superman is Captain Comet.
This is pretty phenomenal. Now I especially can't wait.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 7, 2012

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Upon a second read-through of #10 I noticed that Lois' step-neice, that Lois is going to give the hamsters to, is named Susie (an nod to the Lois of pre-crisis Earth 2's niece, Susie Tompkins). I then wondered why that name seemed familiar in THIS incarnation, so I flipped through the older issues. In issue 6, before the Legion returns to the future, one of the Legion members says that the past Superman will soon "have his hands full with Susie and Earth's first Superman". So unless it's a gag or a red herring, Susie might be playing some part in this or the next storyline. Since everyone figures the Little Man who keeps popping up and making Superman's life hell is Mr Mxyzptlk, I wonder if Morrison is reimagining the story from this issue of Superman.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jun 10, 2012

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Dec 5, 2003
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Big Shiny Robot has an interview that confirms Lobdell will be taking over Superman with Kenneth Rocafort on art. Lobdell did a good enough job on Superboy that I'm hoping this will be a good fit.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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My God that's a mighty fine cover for Action Comics #0.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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CBR just released some annotations for Action Comics #1.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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It is downright unbelievable how much each issue of Action keeps topping the last for me. What's especially amazing is how each issue keeps throwing more and more at the reader, but it never comes across as disjointed, it all flows perfectly together. I especially enjoyed the bromance between Batman and Supes, and the holographic diary he keeps on the space station.

The backup story was pretty entertaining too. It's a shame DC keeps shoving old writers onto the other Superman book instead of giving Fisch the chance. His backups have flowed so well due to his close collaboration with Morrison, I could see the other book improving vastly if they got a writer who had that kind of closeness.

I really hope, once this arc is done, Rags gets the boot. I'm really tired of the inconsistency in page art. And it's not that the other guy is bad, either, he's quite talented. I'm just tired of being taken out of the book because everyone starts having more definition and a distinct lack of Rags Morales' wonk-eyes. The man simply can't keep up with a monthly book, no matter what they do. It's time for him to go.

Edit: One more thing, that panel of him hearing the word "impossible" and turning around with an "oh yeah?" smile was just phenomenal.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Yesterday I said they should give Fisch a full-fledged issue of Superman to write. I guess it was a matter of ask and ye shall receive. DC just announced Action Comics Annual #1 for October 31

quote:

Written by Sholly Fisch
Art and cover by Cully Hamner
Backup story written by Max Landis
Backup story art by Ryan Sook
On sale OCTOBER 31 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T
* The secrets of the “missing five years” between when Clark Kent came to Metropolis and the present day continue to be revealed!
* In the wake of Brainiac’s attack on Metropolis, Superman faces his first Earth-born villain: the Kryptonite Man!
* Plus a special backup story written by screenwriter of CHRONICLE, Max Landis!

It's pretty awesome they snagged Max Landis for a backup story and I look forward to his story since he knows his Superman.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jul 5, 2012

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Dec 5, 2003
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Barry Convex posted:

Morrison's Action Comics run will end with #16.
Beat me to posting it here, I'll just post my comments from the general DC thread.

This is a huge letdown. I would've thought Morrison would have had FAR more to say about Superman than only 16 issues worth, considering he always professed he was a much bigger fan of Superman than Batman, yet his Batman run lasted 5 years.

I really hope DC puts a top-tier writer on the title once he leaves. Definitely not another old-guard writer hamstrung by editorial, that's for sure.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Newsarama made a list of their 10 candidates they'd like to see pick up writing duties on Action after Morrison leaves. The list is about 1/3 great, 1/3 awful, and 1/3 total fanboy choices, but isn't that how it always breaks down? That said, if DC could somehow wrangle Mark Waid over for a Superman run, I'd honestly buy 2 copies every month just to have a copy to throw at friends. But we're probably more likely to see Grant change his mind and announce he's staying on for 50 issues than for that to happen anytime soon.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Dan Didio posted:

No, because that's not Morrison's job, it was the editors Perez was 'calling out' and quite rightfully so. They didn't seem to have any idea what was going on in their own titles despite putting some pretty severe restrictions on what he could and couldn't write.
This is how I understand it as well. I also believe there's been no editorial changeover despite the reboot, so the same people that were in editorial during New Krypton/War of the Supermen/Grounded are still in charge now, which begs the question exactly what does an editor have to do to get fired at DC?

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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So the Action Comics hardcover comes out tomorrow and I can't wait because now I'll have a solid book I can start shoving in my friends faces that I can force them to read. Fingers crossed that DC bothered to put the issues in order so that the Collector/origin arc goes straight through without the Legion interlude in the middle, instead of just reprinting them in the order in which they were published. Especially since that's the way Morrison intended the issues to come out in the first place before Rags fell behind on art.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Lord Krangdar posted:

Are you sure about that?
Very much so. At last years Comic Con panel, when Morrison was starting out on his run he said that the first six issues was going to be the big origin arc set in the past, then there was going to be a couple issues where we "jumped ahead to the Superman of present-day having a team-up with the Legion of Super Heroes".

Cut to a few issues in, Rags is falling behind tremendously (I mean, by issue 2 there were a couple fill-in pages), and suddenly that idea for the follow-up story ended up becoming an interlude drawn by Andy Kubert while Rags got caught up. It ended up being a neat bit of unintentional nonlinear storytelling, but that's exactly what it was: unintentional.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Rhyno posted:

I think you're going to be please with the hardcover. The Legion interlude is collected after the main arc and the book ends with the backups.
This just made my week. Thanks for the info.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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That was insane. I can't wait for the annotations on THAT one.

So the Little Man is NOT Myxy, but might be something far worse because he managed to hurt Myxy, who is an ally of Mrs Nxly. That was unexpected. And I loved Superman pulling the classic read-every-book-on-a-subject-in-10-seconds-and-now-I'm-amazing-at-it trick from the silver age. I really am dreading what's going to happen to this book once Grant leaves.

Also, they really should give Rags the boot and put Cafu as the primary artist, his pages were pretty great looking.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Aug 2, 2012

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d00gZ posted:

Just a reminder that the big Kryptonian super-equation was called the EOEO, which is vowels, which the 5th Dimensionals don't have.
:aaaaa:

Everything is beginning to line up now as we're nearing the end. The multitude that Jor-El fought off was probably some kind of invasion from the 5th dimension, and he repelled them using the EOEO, which is probably why the little man is trying to screw with him so badly. I have absolutely no idea how he'll be able to wrap all this up in 4 issues, but I can't wait.

Side note: upon re-reading issue 12, I noticed that when Batman put his arm around Clark, he planted a bat-tracer on him.

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Aug 6, 2012

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In the DC books this week they were running ads for the upcoming annuals and I noticed something weird: it says that Annual #1 is written by Scott Lobdell. I thought to myself "I could've sworn that the vanilla annual book was written by Giffen", so I checked. It was.

DC Comics posted:

SUPERMAN ANNUAL #1
Written by KEITH GIFFEN
Art by CAFU and others
Cover by TYLER KIRKHAM and BATT
On sale AUGUST 29 • 48 pg, FC, $4.99 US • RATED T
• Abducted by a group of mysterious aliens, Superman is dragged to a remote alien galaxy to take part in THE GAMES, a world hopping game of cat-and-mouse where players are hunted for sport.
• Can even the help of a mysterious new GREEN LANTERN overcome the might of an alien empire?

However, proving once more that DC editorial has no plans/goals/ideas for Superman, apparently they decided to throw all that out to get Lobdell started a month sooner.

Newsarama posted:

SUPERMAN ANNUAL #1 now features a story written by Scott Lobdell and Fabian Nicieza and art by Pascal Alixe, Marco Rudy, Tom Raney, Elizabeth Torque, Mico Suayan.
5 artists for one annual? Talk about a really last-minute change.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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This interview with Lobdell highlights how useless and terrible editorial is.

quote:

In a "this is how sausage is made" kind of way that I would only share with my friends on Comicvine... when I wrote the original proposal I was focused on updating Superman's roster of villains because I felt that ACTION had gotten to play around with The Classics, that it was time for SUPERMAN to be able to play with some of the characters that Grant hadn't re-imagined for the New 52. Kenneth and I worked up one particular character...

... and gave him a horror based origin that even left me unnerved, and I was writing! Kenneth came up with this haunting visual, it is disturbing to look at when you realize what it is. So many people who read the proposal would call or reply through email and say "Oh my god! I can't want to see this...!"

Then, when I turned in the first few plots, there was a debate going on: Is this a new character? Or is this a new take on a classic character? I'll be honest, because I like you people, we are about three months from printing and the debate is still going on. I can see both points very clearly, and I think Kenneth and I will be happy whatever is decided.
The article notes that this interview was done prior to today's reveal, so he more than likely is talking about this character. It sounds like Lobdell tried re-imagining Bizarro, and when he handed the script into his editors they're trying to decide if this IS the new 52 version of Bizarro, or if they want to make him a separate character so they can add real Bizarro later. They can't even think 3 months in advance!

Edit: This reminds me of the clusterfuck involving Zod in post-crisis. Namely the number of times that DC said "oh that wasnt THE Zod it was just A Zod".

Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Aug 10, 2012

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Dec 5, 2003
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Found this on the CBR forums and thought it was amusing. In a German SS propaganda archive, there was an SS Newspaper article trashing a particular issue of Superman in which he easily dispatches a bunch of Nazis. Among the empty propaganda and obvious antisemitism was a statement that I found pretty funny:

An SS Newspaper posted:

A triumphant final frame shows Superman, the conquerer of death, dropping in at the headquarters of the chatterboxes at the League of Nations in Geneva. Although the rules of the establishment probably prohibit people in bathing suits from participating in their deliberations, Superman ignores them as well as the other laws of physics, logic, and life in general.
Nazis: The original comic realism police.

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Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
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Some rumor mongering from you-know-who, but he's claiming that Andy Diggle might be taking over Action Comics from Morrison. I'm not at all familiar with his work, is this potentially a good thing or should I be prepping to drop AC from my pull list after January?

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