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The difference between UFC & Bellator gambles? UFC’s cost them millions of dollars Best case scenario for UFC with the women’s title? Ronda Rousey (Hulk Hogan) losing to Holly Holm (Ultimate Warrior) losing to Miesha Tate (Sgt. Slaughter), with Rousey vs. Tate now having a shiny new angle to another re-match.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:The difference between UFC & Bellator gambles? UFC’s cost them millions of dollars i can see why these guys have to write news articles for a living
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Mar 7, 2016 18:44
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Triticum Guzzler posted:The difference between UFC & Bellator gambles? UFC’s cost them millions of dollars the premise is dumb because they weren't gambles. UFC 196 would've tanked if they didn't keep Conor on the card, and the money fight available to them was Nate Diaz. Also the UFC wanted Holly to wait for a Ronda rematch but Holly didn't want to wait, plus it turned out that Ronda wasn't coming back for a whole year anyways, so they had to match up Holly with somebody.
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Mar 7, 2016 18:52
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1st AD posted:the premise is dumb because they weren't gambles. UFC 196 would've tanked if they didn't keep Conor on the card, and the money fight available to them was Nate Diaz. Also the UFC wanted Holly to wait for a Ronda rematch but Holly didn't want to wait, plus it turned out that Ronda wasn't coming back for a whole year anyways, so they had to match up Holly with somebody. also I don't buy his nonsense about the Diaz brothers becoming powerful again!! The Diaz brothers have always maintained popularity and the problems UFC had with Nate a few years ago won't be applicable to where he's at today. Two years ago Nate was disgruntled with UFC cause they were offering him 20/20 to get his rear end kicked by Khabib. Now they're likely going to offer him a million dollars to fight Robbie for the welterweight title. He isn't going to be "a great pain in the rear end" as Zach Arnold puts it.
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Mar 7, 2016 19:06
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I don't see how either result hurts the UFC long term. Tate winning all but guarantees Rousey will return which is huge for them no matter who she fights. And if she wins, that makes a potential Holm rematch that much bigger. As for McGregor...so what if he lost? You think more people would have bought this card if he fought RDA? I don't. So if he lost against RDA, they're in the same place where he goes back to 145 to defend like he probably would have anyway. At least here he could still in theory fight at 155 with no record. People act like no fighter has ever kept popularity after a loss. I mean who remembers (insert literally all but a handful of fighters that ever existed).
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Mar 8, 2016 02:44
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Most mma journalists are just garden variety dumb and uninformed, but Zach Arnold has a special talent for knowing a lot about the history of the sport and using that information to come to the stupidest conclusions imaginable.
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Mar 8, 2016 03:02
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Gzuz-Kriced posted:I don't see how either result hurts the UFC long term. Tate winning all but guarantees Rousey will return which is huge for them no matter who she fights. And if she wins, that makes a potential Holm rematch that much bigger. Congratulations, you are unironically smarter than people who follow this sport as their career
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Mar 8, 2016 03:26
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Really makes you think that you could get a gig in paid journalism. I'm pretty good at talking bollocks, I have all the credentials clearly. If you're good at it, you may be overqualified.
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Mar 8, 2016 03:52
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quote:Human imagination is a powerful thing. quote:Picture yourself living on ancient Earth. If you do a rain dance and it rains shortly after, you might call it luck. Do it again and you’d call it coincidence. Do it seven times in a row with record crowds watching, each one yielding a more spectacular monsoon, and you’ll think you’re the chosen bringer of rain sent to quench the thirst of the masses. Welcome to McGregor’s mind. quote:It was the crushingly conspicuous sort of irony we so often mistake as karma that permitted jiu-jitsu to be McGregor’s ultimate undoing. Martial arts has always existed with one foot in fantasyland, but jiu-jitsu was the cold, hard reality check for chi-force Kung Fu lore; you can’t land a monkey paw crane strike when you’re pinned on your back getting your arm snapped. Just like you can’t land a single straight left and expect every man to collapse in a jumbled heap or get into a war of attrition with a Diaz brother and emerge victorious. Getting choked out is the ultimate reality checkmate. http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Opinion-Conor-McGregor-and-the-Death-of-Imagination-101477 
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Mar 8, 2016 17:00
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I'm not a sher dogger but those quotes all look fair enough to me, Mr_korn
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Mar 8, 2016 17:53
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It's overwrought and badly written, also wrong.
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Mar 8, 2016 17:54
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Chillanese posted:I'm not a sher dogger but those quotes all look fair enough to me, Mr_korn MMA writers putting out freshman level purple prose is a pet peeve of mine. see also: The Acquired Taste and Smell of Mike Brown and The Punk Rock Pageantry of Nick Diaz
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Mar 8, 2016 18:49
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Gzuz-Kriced posted:I don't see how either result hurts the UFC long term. Tate winning all but guarantees Rousey will return which is huge for them no matter who she fights. And if she wins, that makes a potential Holm rematch that much bigger. The other thing that none of these "Dana is mad" commentaries never take into consideration is that the UFC knows that the most important time to make a shitload of money on a bankable fighter is now, even if it results in a loss. Conor has already had one ACL surgery; Ronda is crazy. Fighters fail drug tests and disappear. They fade sooner rather than later. Any fight could conceivably be that fighter's last, so "protecting" a fighter to keep "popularity" up in the long term is going to be a losing bet once a fighter goes the way of Pettis/Khabib/Grant/GSP/Chael/Anderson. e. Cain/Brock/Carwin etc
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Mar 8, 2016 18:58
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Chillanese posted:I'm not a sher dogger but those quotes all look fair enough to me, Mr_korn It's goofy as gently caress
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Mar 8, 2016 23:22
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Ariel Helwani and FOX have parted ways. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sofqr6
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Mar 23, 2016 16:26
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Le Saboteur posted:Ariel Helwani and FOX have parted ways. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sofqr6 good.
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Mar 23, 2016 16:43
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I should add that I know people who work at FS1 and while they don't work with UFC content, there's a huge number of layoffs happening company wide.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:20
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Ariel should have taken the CM Punk fight offer.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:31
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1st AD posted:I should add that I know people who work at FS1 and while they don't work with UFC content, there's a huge number of layoffs happening company wide. Possibly related: http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/dan-otoole-does-not-seem-very-happy-with-fs1-in-twitter-barrage-about-layoffs.html
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Mar 23, 2016 23:16
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/opinion/say-no-to-fight-club-new-york.html Artists take on Fedor vs Rogers 
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Apr 6, 2016 18:55
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To win a labor war with UFC, Conor McGregor must utilize Fox the way Donald Trump has Zach Arnold actually starts off relatively coherent and then right off into the deep end quote:To change the terrain, fighters must inject an active & strong third-party into the business equation. For MMA, that partner must be Fox. It’s the one opportunity Conor McGregor has make a difference in his business battle with the UFC and he would be wise to take a look at a certain high-profile individual who has used Fox to get what he wanted.
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Apr 21, 2016 00:59
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Jeff Sherwood, the dude who created Sherdog, was fired from Sherdog. TJ De Santis had the most contrived crying spell you could ever imagine on the final show, which was so bad it was good
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Apr 21, 2016 01:04
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-Atom- posted:TJ De Santis had the most contrived crying spell you could ever imagine on the final show What show?
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Apr 21, 2016 03:17
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Lads l need help for JT. "Need a hand i can't find the footage of my first Kimbo fight. I'm after the footage of the AFTERMATH, in the post fight press conference where Gary Slime said I'd gone to the hospotal with exhaustion (his son corneered me in the hallways on my way to said press conference and was being too forcefull in trying to get me to go in an ambulance to go to hopspital and that set off my bull poo poo detecter) So I walked through the press conference doors just in time to hear Gary Slime annouce that I was on my way to hospital and couldn't be there! Just another example of what bullshit was afoot, I wish I would have made more of it at the time. Anyway, if anyone knows where that footage is I'd be eternally greatful" Anyone got any ideas?
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Apr 21, 2016 12:25
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kimbo305 posted:What show? the last Beatdown show
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Apr 21, 2016 15:27
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willie_dee posted:Lads l need help for JT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zClWzDVPbwI About 3 minutes into this video is Kimbo talking about the JT fight. I'm going to going to watch too much of it, but there's the post fight. Same uploader has another part to it, but apparently not 1 of 3. Filmed from the crowd and audio/video is pretty poor. Hope that is a help. e: found a better version. Reporter said JT was in there earlier and asked a question to Kimbo regarding what JT said. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5urss_kimbo-slice-post-fight-interview_sport So apparently JT may have...forgotten that he was in front of the press??? Question at 7 minutes of the Dailymotion video. Good luck on your quest, Willie. Eat This Glob fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Apr 21, 2016 19:35
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Eat This Glob posted:[video type="youtube"] Apparently the story goes that the promoter was trying to make out that JT was seriously hurt and in hospital to justify the stoppage, and yet JT was fine because it was a bullshit stoppage so he comes out from back stage as the promoter is lying about JT being rushed to hospital and JT is confused as gently caress and talking to the press about how BS it was. It is not surprising how hard it is to find because it demonstrates how fixed the fight was against JT.
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Apr 21, 2016 21:10
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If UFC doesn't give in to Conor, and continues to listen to it's Corporate Overlord Reebok, then it will be anarchy and the death of MMA. http://tmi.kotaku.com/the-ufc-is-totally-blowing-it-with-conor-mcgregor-1772375370 quote:This has led to some moves in the past almost as baffling as the current McGregor situation. Remember when Dana White publicly threw Jon Jones under the bus for UFC 151's cancellation, even though it was the UFC’s decision and Jones had every right to turn down a last-second opponent switcheroo? At the time, Jones was the UFC’s star on the rise, their next great hope. But he put himself before The Brand, and that simply would not do. So the UFC put its foot down on Jones’ head and shot through its own foot to hit him. It was petty. It was short-sighted. In the long run, it didn’t help anybody, least of all the UFC. Oh yes the noble Jon Jones turning down Chael Sonnen on short notice when he literally won the title for being a short notice replacement for Rashad Evans. quote:Meanwhile, for some time McGregor’s expressed interest in running his own fight promotion and co-promoting in partnership with the UFC. The first time McGregor said this, I imagine an alarm that sounded like a thousand banshees wailing in unison went off at UFC HQ, and a flock of ravens thick and black as coagulated blood devoured Dana White, forcing the UFC to release his sixth clone. M-1cGregor
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Lid posted:If UFC doesn't give in to Conor, and continues to listen to it's Corporate Overlord Reebok, then it will be anarchy and the death of MMA. Somehow, the comments on this article are better than the ones at mma websites
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Apr 23, 2016 01:41
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:Somehow, the comments on this article are better than the ones at mma websites I was surprised too, all of them are calling out the article as bullshit.
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Apr 23, 2016 01:50
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Lid posted:I was surprised too, all of them are calling out the article as bullshit. I was thinking about this awhile ago, where dumb sherdog posters or mma commenters are always the ones that become bloggers because they are the most engaged and it creates this vicious Sherdog cycle
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Apr 23, 2016 01:56
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MMA journalists acting like Conor McGregor is now the MMA Bernie Sanders is hilarious. Has anyone seen even one article where they call it out as the power play it is without acting like Conor is trying to stand up for the same fighters he's always calling bums and pussies?
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Apr 23, 2016 02:13
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:To win a labor war with UFC, Conor McGregor must utilize Fox the way Donald Trump has Zach Arnold has always annoyed the poo poo out of me but at this point continuing to mock him feels like bullying as he is obviously mentally ill
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Apr 23, 2016 02:25
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Conor and Donald Trump are both rich loud mouths that discourage immigration so it checks out to me.
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Apr 23, 2016 03:38
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fatherdog posted:Zach Arnold has always annoyed the poo poo out of me but at this point continuing to mock him feels like bullying as he is obviously mentally ill He did a review of a book Josh Gross wrote about Ali/Inoki and revealed that his background is apparently in legal and investigative writing and whether that's actually real or from reading too many Ian Rankin novels it explains everything
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Apr 23, 2016 13:24
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http://nypost.com/2016/04/23/ufc-owners-will-soon-collect-huge-payday-on-vegas-empire/quote:Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, who also own the Ultimate Fighting Championship cage-fighting franchise, are expected to hit a $1 billion-plus jackpot on their Las Vegas casino empire just a few years after causing it to go bankrupt.
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Apr 24, 2016 01:54
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fatherdog posted:Zach Arnold has always annoyed the poo poo out of me but at this point continuing to mock him feels like bullying as he is obviously mentally ill lol seriously
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Apr 24, 2016 02:06
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fatherdog posted:Zach Arnold has always annoyed the poo poo out of me but at this point continuing to mock him feels like bullying as he is obviously mentally ill I look forward to your random Zach Arnold posts just eviscerating his "work"
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His Bluff Called, Conor Mcgregor Is Off Ufc 200 And Maybe Even Out Of New Yorkquote:Not a month-and-a-half ago, Conor McGregor was the greatest thing that had ever happened to the UFC, the mega-talent with the silver tongue and the crossover appeal and the marketing acumen and (most importantly) the loyalty that the promotion had always dreamed of. Every card he headlined broke gate records; every fight he fought cleared new bars for inventiveness and improbability; every press conference he took over printed money. Those drat je-illuminati running the UFC
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quote:All of a sudden it seemed like Conor McGregor—materialist of materialist, narcissist of narcissists—was becoming something bigger than himself, a spokesman, possibly even taking that rarefied step from ultra-talented loudmouth to historical figure, the path laid down by Muhammad Ali 50 years ago. Just as Ali converted his self-obsession into a tool of racial consciousness and political awakening it seemed like maybe McGregor was about to leverage his individual power as the king of MMA into a collective struggle for more fighter autonomy. His seemingly selfish reasons for skipping out on his contractual obligations (“I must isolate myself now … I’m doing what I need for me now”) had the potential to resonate with and morph into some bigger cause, some shared concern with his fellow fighters. Suddenly you could almost picture Conor McGregor as Folk Hero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwGhRonOE Conor out there working hard for the common fighter.
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