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Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Toebone posted:

Can I have one?

Failing that, anyone know of any good brew kettles sales going on?

No!
They are mine!
I think I'm actually going to convert them and throw together another simple 3 burner brewstand and sell them all together.

I finally think I'm running out of excuses and it's time to make a pot still with the remaining one, though. :banjo:
On that note, has anybody ever really talked about distilling in here? Legality issues aside, I know I've seen some pretty horrifying setups posted in the bachelor thread in A/T.

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Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Paladine_PSoT posted:

What an amazing art project let's discuss this thoroughly.

Everybody likes copper, right?

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Jacobey000 posted:

What state do you live in? (give me ur brewstands)

Ohio. I keep planning on making more brewstands to sell, but I'm too broke to afford the steel in the first place :v:

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

CaptBubba posted:

I really wish that the manufacturers would just put a "fill to this level" mark on all airlocks. I have multiple styles of the little cap type and they all take different water levels to work right without splashing water out the top.

The way I do it is to fill it up to the point where the bobber can move freely without hitting the cap, and bubbles have a short path through the little squares holes on the bobber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TEfB-E6Hs

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

As a pretty critical side note, brett isn't a big scary bug. It's just yeast. It dies like everything else.


I'm convinced that 90% of people who get all paranoid about separating brett fermenters and sacc fermenters really just have poor sanitation.


e: bacteria and the like are different stories, but brett is pretty innocuous. Sour bottle pitches, roeselare, true pedeo/lacto/various brett fermentations I can see keeping equipment separate.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

drewhead posted:

You're going to love the extra 3" that adds to your penis.

It's important, man.



(I use two plate chillers now so I can run them together and get 10 gallons down to 45 degrees for lagering in less than 10 minutes :smug: )

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Jesus christ, somebody used mixer nozzles and didn't just drop them in the diptube?

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

mindphlux posted:

thanks, I'll take your advice.



in unrelated news - am I being insane with my keg cleaning regimen? unless I've had 0 issues with a beer tasting off, and haven't let a keg sit empty for months (rare that the latter doesn't happen), I completely disassemble my posts and diptube and everything, let it soak in 160deg PBW, rinse the everliving gently caress out of all of it, let everything soak in starsan, reassemble and lube, and then fill the keg with ~1gal starsan, toss it all around, and call it a 'ready to go' keg.

some comment on this page or the last I think someone said something about not disassembling their kegs when cleaning. :psyduck: either I'm insane, or they're insane
I do this every time beer goes into a keg. I actually get so obsessive that I disassemble everything in the whole serving line as well, including removing faucets and soaking them, the tubing and posts.
When I reassemble the keg and sanitize, I throw in about half a gallon of star san, shake it up and then loosen the posts and turn the keg upside down and let it dribble out of the posts and pressure relief, then tighten them back down while still wet. Posts get assembled under star san too, and then the last of the star san gets pushed out under Co2 through the line and faucet.

It's ridiculous, but it makes me feel better. I hate infections.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

That looks like a pretty great kit, to be honest. It makes me happy to start seeing kits without secondary fermenters.


e: and for regular usage, gently caress glass carboys, one of those fuckers almost killed me.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Midorka posted:

What's wrong with a secondary fermenter? Here's the brochure of the kit. I'm going to be splitting this 50/50 in price with my friend and it seems like I won't need anything else.

Question though, we have a bunch of bottles we're going to clean/sanitize and such. Will it be fine to use the bottling spigot included to fill then quickly cap the bottles? Is there anything I should watch out for to avoid messing up the carbonation/etc? Sorry for the dumb questions, I know they're probably been asked every 2 pages for the past 30+ but I want to be thorough.


Secondary fermenters are pretty much irrelevant for normal fermentation. They were sort of important when yeast available to homebrewers really sucked. Nowadays, for anything other than some weird situations (sours, fruit beers, insanely long conditioning periods, people who dry hop backwards) it's better to just leave the beer on the yeast in the primary.
Lots of people know this, but lots of homebrewing books are stuck in 1985, as well as lots of beer kits.

As far as bottle filling, it's probably fine to fill straight from the spigot instead of through some hose and into a bottling wand. It might be a little splashier (which is bad, you want to avoid oxygenating as much as possible) but if you're careful, I wouldn't worry.
As for messing up, stir the priming solution in gently but very thoroughly, and measure carefully.


Also, iodophor is a great sanitizer, it's just that Star San is better. Foam is wonderful.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Dec 13, 2011

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Midorka posted:

So basically when I'm filling the bottles I want to go slow and avoid it splashing or coming out fast so I prevent it from oxidizing as much as possible? Thanks a lot for the noob help. My friend was considering bottle conditioning, but we didn't know much about it, now I see it's going to be "easy" to bottle as long as we're careful.

Yep, that's exactly it. Bottling really is a piece of cake, it's just bad to rush.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

mindphlux posted:

yes this is that one :( maybe the world is just crying out at me to make it sour. except now its in a keg, and I don't want to occupy my keg for a year. :/

I posted the recipe earlier, 14lb pils, 2lb white wheat 2lb 80l crystal. mash as follows :

122 30 min rest
149 30 min rest
158 30 min rest
167 mash out
sparge with 176C

yeast was just a packet of danstar nottingham, I wasnt worried too much about that because I was originally planning on pitchin brett. oxygen was just splashing vigorously into the bucket, all I ever do.

Grow up a starter of liquid yeast, swirl around the carboy or bucket and pitch active, healthy yeast in it and it should be fine. Warm it up to 68 or so if you can as well.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Toebone posted:

Anyone have tips for quick turnaround batches? I'm thinking of brewing up a 2.5 or 3 gallon extract batch for New Years.

indigi posted a great 15 minute boil IPA/APA extract batch that I've done a few times and always enjoyed. I do 12ish days fermenting with a large pitch of 001 and force carbonate and drink it very fresh. It could be easily scaled down to 3 gallons.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=2984156&pagenumber=458#post395009261

indigi posted:


5.5 gallon batch
4.25 lbs Extra Light DME
1lbs Vienna
.5lbs C40
.25lbs Carafoam
.25lbs Melanoidin

1.25oz whole leaf Cascade (7.5%) @ 15, 10, 5, knockout, whirlpool/let it sit hot for 15-20 minutes before cooling, 2oz dry hop for 10 days once fermentation's done

I used US-05 to ferment at 64*. OG 1.045 FG 1.012 30+ IBUs
I finish the ferment out quickly, pitching yeast at low 60's and ramping the temp up for the next few days until I've hit final gravity, then I chill it down and throw in the dry hop for 3-4 days.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Dec 18, 2011

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Jacobey000 posted:

Pretty sure I'll be getting a wort chiller soon. I've been looking around and found pretty decently priced Stainless Steel wort chillers. Is there a performance difference between copper and stainless steel? Am lessening my impact of the chiller with stainless steel?
I use a stainless immersion chiller and I love it.
I seem to remember that the thermal conductivity of copper over stainless is a very non-issue for some kind if important crazy physics-based reason in a cooling coil kind of design.

On top of that, stainless tubing will be thinner than copper but still considerably stronger and easier to clean and keep looking nice.

mindphlux posted:

uhhh


so, I left a killawatt hooked up to my kegerator for a while, and took a reading

139 hours
2.66kwh used.

I think that translates to like 15 cents? that can't be right...

This seems right to me. I have an absolutely gigantic very old chest freezer and a 10" tall uninsulated collar for my kegerator and I was drawing dramatically less power than any other fridge or freezer in my house. It only kicks on a few times a day.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Dec 21, 2011

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

If you can find one, the way to really rock (if you have a welding store/gas supplier nearby) is to look around on craigslist and find a cheap tank. 10 lb tanks are awesome.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Plastic Jesus posted:

My porter started at 1.08 on the nose and won't drop past 1.024 (been there for 10 days). I was shooting for 1.018 or so, any way to knudge it lower, or should I leave well enough alone? I've tried swirling the carboy to reinvigorate the yeast, but the lazy fuckers are just lying there in the trub.

Edit: 1.024, not 1.022

Warm it up a couple degrees and maybe give it another swirl if you're feeling fancy. I have no problem hitting 70-72 when the ferment slows to keep the yeast active. Beyond that, there's not much else to do unless you want to pitch krausen or something to try and get the last tiny little bits of fermentables out.

It's also entirely possible that 1.024 is just where it's going to end. 1.080 is pretty drat high OG, and 1.024 is 68% apparent attenuation. What was the yeast?

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

If you don't see yourself doing big batches someday (like with a converted keg), the SP10 rocks. Particularly because it has a better burner than the SQ14. The 14 has a very very nice stand and a burner that likes to blow out and lower settings and is a little finicky at higher settings.
The SP10 you can just crank up and up and it just gets hotter and doesn't blow itself out.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

This is the stand I built a little while ago.

It's stagnant right now though, being broke as hell.





http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3437782&userid=114296#post395897590
Since those pictures, I've added a second pump. I still have a control panel and a RIMS tube setup that I haven't finished building. I honestly don't know if I'll ever bother. Full control is awesome, but 3 burners and direct fired mash is just stupidly easy and easier to clean.

I really want to brew soon :(

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

I've been tempted for quite a while to do a homebrewing miniseries on Youtube. I have good cameras, decent brewstand setup and I'm not

1. 50 years old and inept
2. prone to 45 minute explanations of process
3. creepy
4. HBT stereotype, etc etc

It'd be a bunch of fun to do, too.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

I've got two of those super cheap pop up canopy things that I put up in any windy or otherwise crappy weather that help a lot (one goes actually up, the other on it's side upwind).

If it's really awful out, I give up and abandon the brewstand and just do partial boil extract batches and have just as much fun :v:


I've brewed in the garage before, but my garage is pretty ridiculous and filled with welders and steel and half-apart farm tractors. I'm also a very very wet brewer and I don't think I've ever brewed without getting at least 10 gallons of water and excess runoff all over the ground, so the garage is usually unwise.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

I pitch slightly ridiculous amounts of yeast and generally my final volume starter for most beers is only about 16 hours on the stir plate.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

zedprime posted:

Kegs are the cheap part of kegging

Not anymore they're not :v:

2 years ago I was buying kegs for $29-34

They're somewhere around $50 now, unfortunately. The price fluctuates a lot.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Buy some 6ml plastic transfer pipettes, mix 1 gallon at a time with 5.9ml of starsan.

I use about half a gallon of starsan for an entire batch from start to finish. Shaking and using autosiphons to pump it around through tubing is the trick. Soaking just uses tons of the stuff.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

e: ^^ Oh hey by the way I should actually be going to a meeting soon and joining. Finally have money, etc etc :)


Getting in late on the "post your names/labels" thing, but this is my general theme. I never have actual beer names beyond style and version. A porter will end up being labeled Robust Porter v1 or something of the sort.
This is my newer applewine label. The beer labels generally are the exact same thing except a shaker pint full of whatever color the beer is, and the rest of the colors are something that fits the theme.



The stupid "clever name" thing is just a placeholder. I don't really know what to put over there.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jan 27, 2012

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

On larger beers or 10 gallon batches, I almost always do a double batch sparge. I split the sparge water in half and batch sparge twice. It seems to make a fairly noticeable difference in efficiency.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Jo3sh posted:

This is my usual method also.

I'm hoping to be able to build a RIMS this year; how do those of you with recirculating mashes sparge? Does the recirc reduce the need for a slow sparge?

I have a RIMS setup but still batch sparge. I also runoff the first runnings and the sparge at full speed with a march pump at 2.5-3 gal/min against all conventional advice, so I'm not really to be trusted.

I recirculate the sparge for a minute or two and bring it up to temp with the RIMS and then runoff. I did it the exact same way when I was still using propane (and I still just use propane 75% of the time because eRIMS is fiddly).


e: I'd just like to point out how much batch sparging and recirculating mash rocks. After first runnings are done, I can have the sparge completely finished and my full kettle volume in about ~8 minutes. The whole mashing process from dough in to single batch sparge to full kettle is probably about 72 minutes.

:smug:

Fly sparging is for chumps.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jan 31, 2012

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

The cider and it's applewine buddy that I made in October is now ready to be kegged, carbed and bottled, just in time for next fall :v:

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

e: ^^ A syringe is a good idea and probably a lot easier to measure with than a pipette/dropper/etc. Don't know why I didn't think of that :v:

I'm going to repost this every single time anybody new gets recommended to buy starsan.


Hypnolobster posted:

Buy some 6ml plastic transfer pipettes, mix 1 gallon at a time with 5.9ml of starsan.

I use about half a gallon of starsan for an entire batch from start to finish. Shaking and using autosiphons to pump it around through tubing is the trick. Soaking just uses tons of the stuff.


Hypnolobster posted:

TSP, Oxyclean Free and Oxalic Acid are pretty much the only cleaners I ever need, and they're all dirt cheap and hilariously effective. I love it.


e: related chemicals tip: For people using StarSan, BUY DISPOSABLE PIPETTES. 3ml or 6ml pipettes let you mix 1 gallon of starsan in moments. 1 gallon needs 5.9ml of star san and you don't have to mix the basically required for accuracy 2.5 gallons/.5oz anymore. I've had a bunch of sterile pipettes for a while but always just used them for taking refractometer samples during brewday. This is a way cooler use.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Feb 3, 2012

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Sounds a little crazy, but craft stores sometimes have them. Pharmacy or medical supply store should have syringes, too.


e: I got a gross/144 6ml pipettes off of ebay for like $10 shipped a year or two ago. I made a little holder for the side of my starsan bottles similar to the things that hold the straws on the side of spraycans.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

withak posted:

I heard oxygenating it while it is still hot is bad.
Theoretically it is, but on the homebrewing scale it's not really a worry.

Leaving the lid off of cooling wort, however :v:

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

withak posted:

I'm making a porter today and while it is cooling in the ice bath I am going to stir it not-gently and also leave the lid off. If it is ruined then you guys will owe me 5 gallons of porter.

For the record, I don't owe you anything if you leave the lid off and it's ruined :v:


e: don't sneeze

ee: People who use iodophor are weirdos. Starsan is wonderfully safe and easy, and is wonderfully foamy. Hell, I've drank partial boil beers that were half Starsan.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Feb 5, 2012

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

I've sort of wanted to do a brett porter for a while.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

LeeMajors posted:

I always cool outside, with the lid off and have never had any infection issues.

You may never notice a problem, but it's a giant vector for infection. The air in a house and outside is absolutely full of dust particles carrying yeast and bacteria, your house probably has some fun little skin cells floating around, your breath is full of tiny particulates of happy little sugar-consuming bacteria, etc.


Really, lids are a good thing.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Josh Wow posted:

Anybody that uses an immersion chiller leaves the lid off their wort when they're cooling it, unless they're one of those weirdos that cut slits into their lid for it. I do this every time for 10-20 minutes outside and have never had an issue with infections. I would notice too, almost all the beers I brew are under 5% and I do a lot of lighter styles. There's not a whole lot of room to hide off flavors in an ordinary bitter or helles.

Guess who's one of those weirdos :v:

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

e: ^ correct

TOMSOVERBAGHDAD posted:

As a counterpoint: leaving the lid on while cooling promotes DMS in your beer. The DMS-filled condensate will drop back into your beer, and cause off-flavors.

Not if you actually, y'know, boiled the wort for 60-90 minutes. You'd have a pretty hard time getting anywhere near the DMS flavor threshold from 15 minutes of chilling wort with a lid on.

If you're worried about it, the lid can go on after you've knocked down to ~150 f or so. Above that, short of a squirrel/flies/etc falling into the wort, you're not going to get many beer spoilers that will survive.
I still have some issues imagining how people think that 16" of cool wort exposed directly to the air is a good idea.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Angry Grimace posted:

One guy I know took some big wide pieces of aluminum foil, sprayed it down with Iodophor, and wrapped it around the top of the immersion chiller and kettle to prevent stuff from getting in.

Cookie sheets!

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Brew in a bag is an amazingly cool method. Despite my giant brewstand and pumps and eRIMS and all that ridiculousness, I love doing quick, easy batches.

BIAB 5 gallon on just a turkey burner in a 10g pot is ridiculously easy and simple, and it gets even easier and more ridiculously simple when you do no-chill with a Winpak for a fermenter. I did two BIAB no chill batches this winter because it's been horribly rainy weather for a full brewday.

It's awesome being done in ~3 hours, and truly 1 pot to clean, no chiller to clean, the entire brewday's worth of water goes into the kettle at the beginning.
It rocks. I finish the batch, it goes into the winpak hot and then I go make my yeast starter and pitch the next morning.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Scottw330 posted:

BIAB might just convert me to all-grain with everything I've been hearing about it. What is the largest batch you could brew with BIAB on the stovetop in a 4 gallon pot? (I.e. what I'm using for extract brewing) I know where to find 3 gallon fermenters for maybe 2.5 gallon batches, and I feel like that is a good amount of beer to get in exchange for several hours of work.
2.5 should be fine with a 4 gallon pot. You've got to account for .5 to 1g of boiloff and then the added volume of the grains.
You could make it a 5 gallon batch pretty easily by adding extract near the end and then diluting into the fermenter, too.


Dukket posted:

I mean five gallons of cold pasteurized apple cider (from Grand Rapids, MI) poured into a carboy with a bunch of brown sugar and some Champagne yeast. We tasted some when we racked it and it was not great, but I'm willing to wait it out.

Cider generally takes a very long time to condition and develop some acceptable flavor, doubly so if you didn't use any yeast nutrient (yeast sort of hate cider, nutrient sort of helps).

It also will more than likely not taste quite like what most people think cider tastes like if you're used to drinking easily available commercial ciders. It will probably end up very very tart and dry.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Feb 7, 2012

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

If you don't want to spend the money on a ball valve on a kettle, you can also just rack into the fermenter with an autosiphon after you've chilled.

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Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

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Midorka posted:

In my homebrew group we're doing a cereal competition with random teams. The goal is to make a beer using a cereal in the mash. Does anyone have any good recipes for ones with Fruit Loops by chance?



Yeah, if the competition is to make a beer with a good flavor derived or that reminds you of cereal X, then it'd be sort of tough.

If the goal is just to make a beer that happens to have cereal in it, make pretty much anything and 8oz of Fruit Loops would pretty much make zero difference in flavor.


Actually, if it's the former, then a clone of Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat would be more than likely a pretty drat good bet. A pretty good majority of the reviews for that beer mention that it pretty much tastes like Fruit Loops or Fruity Pebbles.

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