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How can I assess whether burrs are dull or need to be replaced? The Super Jolly I'm fixing up and playing with is really tricky. I poured the best shot I've had and I've poured a lot of dogshit shots that shoot out of the bottomless portafilter all over my coffee station. I don't know what's doing it... I'm hoping this can be attributed to something I can swap.
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VelociBacon posted:Usually this (channeling) is caused by your puck prep not being as good as it needs to be. Same technique on my pucks. Only difference is the grinder. The Baratza Encore ESP vs this Super Jolly. I do a light misting of water on the beans, throw'em in to grind. I use a WDT tool and give the grinds a stir in little circles around the periphery, then slowly inch the tool out while continuing to stir. I use a distrbution puck to flatten, then I tamper. Same amount of beans measured before/after 16.8g Same espresso maker Same puck screen That's why I think it might be the burrs. Is there a way to figure out if they're dull? They're probably super old.
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Aug 29, 2023 04:11
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hypnophant posted:If it’s not had years of service in a busy cafe, the burrs aren’t dull it's an '89, bought from a failed shop, bought by that shop second hand. It probably has varicose veins.
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Aug 29, 2023 21:33
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I left my buddy unsupervised because I had a meeting and he was staying over at my house for a week. Every day I showed him my process for making the Encore ESP work with my bambino plus. 16.8g, tamp, puck screen, wdt. I leave for the meeting and check in with him after. Motherfucker put 45g in (having weighed them) into the grinder and hosed with the grind settings to bring them into v60 territory. The dick head then gave up and just left a mess and didn't even try to pour a shot. All of this would be forgivable if he didn't have a Breville Barista Express that he uses loving daily at home. 
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Sep 8, 2023 14:44
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I like my Encore ESP (it adds an espresso range) but it's def a better pour-over grinder than espresso. The espresso range is 1-20, then 21-40 for coarser grinds, using a stepped adjustment. I have yet to pour a decent shot outside of settings 19 and 20, so I can't recommend it for espresso (even if I've successfully poured it), but I can't complain about the burs in regards to pour-over. What coffee is your buddy trying to make? That'll probably inform the replies a bit better.
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Sep 13, 2023 16:23
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Ptolemaeus posted:I spent 400 USD on a technivorm, read through this whole thread, learned how to grind my own beans, became overbearing about coffee and thought I finally found what I liked. My wife then blew my mind falling in love with a 20 USD piece of flimsy stainless steel and some fine ground filter kaapi south Indian style mix of 80 percent coffee and 20 percent chicory that was pennies at the grocer she goes to. Now we just make that every morning and I feel dumb. I'll offer you $50 for the 'vorm. RE: Flair58 I went to a coffee roaster's 16 anniversary event and they were busting out a bunch of machines for espresso. I got to talking with the owner and he loving hates the Flair. It pours ok shots but the company has left early-adopters in the lurch whenever they come up with a design update and it's a finicky workflow.
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Sep 19, 2023 22:48
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BrianBoitano posted:Only way Flair is a café machine is if they make the slow workflow part of the "experience" and charge enough to either hire more baristas or to create scarcity / luxury levels of clientele. I enjoy the ritual, but my local café already runs slow if there's a crowd so while I love it at home I'm not surprised coffee shops haven't embraced it. It's not a cafe, it's a roaster. They have it to product test using a few different machines. Fair point though.
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Sep 20, 2023 15:09
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SlinkyMink posted:Nah, I definitely appreciate the counter points, hence why I'm here! I've not heard of them before, but reading online, it seems to have a pretty cult following with a huge aftermarket scene, as well. They've been making the same machine with minor iterations since the 70s which is incredibly cool to me and seems like they've held up well because of it. I've been watching reviews and reading about them and seeing people who have bought them and refurbished them second hand with little push back and great results. Hell, I think Hoffman made a video with a 20+ year old machine that seemed to make a really clean cup and that just furthered my interest. Minimal moving parts, pumps, and things to go bad is a huge plus for me and the learning curve is something I'd embrace. I was on the Gaggia Classic train for years, but this thing is basically everything I've been looking for in a machine, so we'll see. I'm mostly sold, but am gonna do a bit more research today to finalize my thoughts. I'll definitely be reporting back if I pull the trigger. To piggy back on this, the gaggia classic pro evo https://www.gaggia-na.com/products/gaggia-classic-pro just got released and includes a few of the "need to have" mods that the community used to say were mandatory. They improved materials on the grouphead, changed out the pressure to 9bar and a few other changes to the classic pro.
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Sep 21, 2023 12:54
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I'm beginning my espresso adventure but I'm pretty pleased with the bambino plus. You can find them at discount off the remanufactured site. I'll echo that if you want a better taste and experience, then your money is best served splurging on grinder and not the espresso maker.
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Sep 21, 2023 12:57
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Is it 9 bar? The website says 15. Lol Welp, then they walked that back. https://youtu.be/iZs6Ehvztz0?si=iEBlBDSqrXmv8nZi And a couple other reviews cover it as 9bar Cannon_Fodder fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Sep 21, 2023 |
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Sep 21, 2023 22:25
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Look up the bambino plus on the remanufactured site and save some money. I like mine, it's pretty nice and I've got no regrets. One day I'll upgrade but I'm in no rush.
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Sep 24, 2023 03:38
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That Moccamaster sure is tempting.
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Sep 28, 2023 03:18
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MetaJew posted:If anyone is in the market for a Vario W with steel burrs (and the ceramic burrs which were never used) please let me know. What're you asking for it?
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Oct 1, 2023 13:52
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bizwank posted:That model has a thermoblock so it's quite a bit more stable temperature-wise than any entry-level machine with a traditional boiler; most of the ones I see hover in the high 190s for the full duration of the shot, assuming they've been regularly descaled. They've got the same 15 bar vibratory pump that's in every other home machine on the US market so any pressure issues are probably going to be a problem with your coffee or puck prep, or a sign of a machine that's in need of some maintenance or otherwise malfunctioning in some way. If you want a more traditional steam wand there's also the EC885M, for roughly the same price. There just really isn't a better starter machine on the (US) market, especially for the money. The bambino plus also has a thermoblock and is pretty cheap. Same general issues though, 54mm basket.
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Oct 3, 2023 23:24
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I've had great experiences with Kona in both Hawaii and I'm the Midwest though it's hard to get out here due to prices. The espresso buzz is way different (gave me the same sensations as a body high). Ymmv.
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Oct 6, 2023 17:16
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That's also how my guy got his beans - a direct deal with his own farming friend in Hawaii. If you're ever in Oahu, check out green world coffee. poo poo is absolutely dope.
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Oct 6, 2023 18:04
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Ah, the PHITS technique (Piss hole in the snow)
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Oct 11, 2023 16:29
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Wachter posted:Speaking of the Encore, I'm looking to start putting together an espresso setup - does the burr upgrade (I want to say M2?) make for an acceptable entry-level grinder? The Encore isn't an espresso grinder. At least look at the Encore ESp. You're going to be frustrated by the steps and the lovely range but it can do espresso. Save yourself the headache and get a decent hand grinder if you're trying to go inexpensive. https://a.co/d/3Z20rjr People really like this one. The grinder is the biggest bang for your buck in espresso. Going cheap there will haunt the rest of the product and you'll end up chasing its ghost.
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Oct 16, 2023 22:31
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Can't imagine how much fun it is to season hand grinder burs.
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Oct 23, 2023 19:43
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I'm sure you could offload it if you wanted to in the espressoafficionatos discord
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Oct 24, 2023 00:11
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I mean, it's a cool toy. If you're using it as your only method for coffee, I'm sure it'll be horribly aggravating, but as a novelty or treat, congrats! Now you've got to figure out thermal management and how to go through a bag of beans before they go. Low-volume usage might make tuning that grinder tricky.
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BrianBoitano posted:On the other hand, flair + hand grinder is my only coffee maker* and most days I pull one shot in the morning and one in the afternoon, and I absolutely love it. Can't imagine being happier without spending 2 thousand bucks, and the process is great for me. 6 minutes from cold water to hot bean slurp, cleanup included. That's great feedback. I've only used a flair once or twice.
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Nov 7, 2023 18:19
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Make bespoke suppositories for the refined healing crystal crowd
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New tamper day. Let's see if this normcore actually improves poo poo. I've had some odd sideways squirting with the ims basket I'm using and my theory is that I'm not tamping evenly.
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I loving love the Mara X look. I'm still doing research, hopefully will have the funds in May/June, but right now the front runners are profitech, the Mara X, and ECM. I also have a connection that is selling a Izzo Alex Duetto ii... I don't know about buying a 10 year old machine though. Does anyone have experience with the Alex?
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:I got my Flair set up and pulled three shots this morning. I think the portafilter is pressurized. It looks like the 2 in 1 filter that came on later models, but it's one piece. Hard to tell if it's truly pressurized though, the spout seems big. The puck screen has a rubber gasket on it, which gets stuck down in the portafilter easily. I found a Flair for 100 bucks with the pressure gage and some additional accessories. Looks like we're about to be flair buddies. 
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Steve Yun posted:My sister is cleaning out her kitchen clutter and gave me her Nespresso machine If you didn't own it originally, probably take a poke around. Who knows what's been put through it and if the scale has built up.
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Nov 19, 2023 16:49
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Why do you need both burs? Send like if you've got a niche zero and you're adding a duo, just keep them set up for pour over and espresso accordingly. Am I missing something?
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Nov 20, 2023 18:20
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Totally makes sense. Goonspeed on your big move!
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Nov 21, 2023 05:24
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Fellow has a nice discount during the mad days of November. https://fellowproducts.com/products/ode-brew-grinder-gen-2?variant=40978992496740 Upgraded burrs too.
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Nov 21, 2023 19:51
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Spiggy posted:I admittedly bought a puck screen when they were in vogue and even though they don't really help with extraction, they are great for keeping the group head clean. If you do get one I would recommend getting a teasing needle as well to make it a little easier to pry the screen it because those things like to get snug in the portafilter. Keeping the group head clean is good enough reason for me. Also, if you are crankin' until you've got a sloppy puck, in my experience, the excess water sits above it so you can pour that off before you knock mud into your knockbox
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obi_ant posted:The Eureka Mignon Specialita owning goons, how is the noise like? People piss and moan over the Sette 270w, never heard a complaint about the Mignon. I'll ask in the espresso discord.
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Corb3t posted:Looks like my TimeMore Sculptor is going to ship in the next couple weeks - I'm excited to dust off the Bambino again now that I'll have a truly stepless grinder to dial in my shots. I just got kinda lazy about dialing in beans every month with our Fellow Opus, which is a great grinder, but not something I'd recommend to somebody primarily using it for expresso. Lately we've been drinking v60 pourover, which we really enjoy. I did 60g of a light roast on the encore esp and forgot RDT. Might as well have spread flour on the counter. 
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hypnophant posted:Coffee’s 800 years old, which is not to say I disagree Pretty sure that plant has been around for a bit. Commercial coffee has been around that long. Pedant insurance: and people have been brewing tea in Ethiopia for a good long time.
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:And Frangelico or amaretto. I think you just outlined dinner. Maybe some liqor 43
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I'll second that sentiment. Your best bet is to get the encore for pour over and pick up a good hand grinder if you're on a budget. I like my bambino. I'm only upgrading to something else soon because I'm looking for a beefier machine with a 58mm basket. Won't lie, it's an aesthetic decision.
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I've got a bead on a nice dual boiler machine. Used, old, but with the mods I want already done and it should be a good kick in the rear end to get my coffee station woodworking project designed. It's an Izzo Alex Duetto ii, so a circa 2012 machine, but 1300 for a well cared for, updated PID, flow control and pressure gauge on the e61, I think the price might be right. Cannon_Fodder fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Dec 11, 2023 |
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Pro tip: get rid of the hopper and get the single dose hopper.
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amenenema posted:I liked it because you could use the "lid" as the dosing cup (vs the flat round disc that is the standard hopper lid. Pilfered Pallbearers posted:If you get the bellows based single dose hopper it helps deal with the pretty significant retention. You can use the single-dose hopper as a bellow and a dosing cup, plus it matches the rest of the machine. I won't argue, silicone bellows would def do a better job, but it's pourover not espresso so whatever.
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Corb3t posted:Me and a friends Sculptor 063s arrived in the US today. Built like a tank. No issues with mine, other than some minor UX annoyances (button should be in front, wish it was easier to eye changes to the grinder notches, beans can get stock in the hopper). Sorry, a 1 minute preinfusion?
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