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GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

got a mini country ham curing.

Anyone ever try tri tip bresaola? I wonder how it would be. It's got more fat than top round anyway, so maybe it would be better?

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GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Tweek posted:

Like Luxembourg Style or something?

it's a 4 lb chunk of bone in pork butt. Got it curing in salt/pink/sugar, ginger, coriander, arbol/california/ancho chiles, and dark rum.

gonna cold smoke it for idkyet hours then hang it to dry in my garage.

what is Luxembourg Style?

this is what I mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_ham

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Tweek posted:

You had said you had a mini-country ham on the cure.

o. welp. I get it now. :downsrim:

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Anyone ever try the umai dry bags for aging charcuterie? Ran across them online the other day and they look interesting for us who don't have basements or aging cellars.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

I don't know if this has been shared in here, but this is seriously one of my favorite food blogs http://frombellytobacon.com/

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Started more charcuterie curing today:





Belly three ways. Bacon in the style of Benton's. A belly cured with DQ #2 destined for heavy cold smoke and a long aging, so like, a country ham, but belly instead of ham, or a heavy smoked pancetta, however you want to think of it. And some belly for confit with cinnamon, allspice, clove, bay, and thyme.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Martello posted:

How did you flavor it? Kinda sounds like mine except for the smoking.

in the style of benton's ham, too. so just salt, brown sugar, black pepper, and crushed red pepper.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

has anyone done a country or other air cured ham at home? I read some foodie messiah chef, maybe it was chang, i dont remember, but they said they cured then hung their ham in their garage for a year to air dry. does anyone know the temperature limits of that? I live in so cal so it gets pretty hot in my garage, tempted to try it during the winter when I can get the initial aging done in colder temps.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

goodness posted:

Anyone know a good site to order some charcuterie on?

Also, I am trying to find some easy stuff to make at home. I see that rillettes are pretty simple, any other easy to make things that don't require exotic machinery/methods ha.

Duck prosciutto and confit are both easy. So are pâtés. If you live in an area with appropriate weather a ham, lonzino, or bresaola can be done though they are safer with pink salt #2.

Bacon and corned beef are both good beginner friendly cures too

Chicken liver pâté is seriously stupid easy though.

GrAviTy84 fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Dec 6, 2014

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

goodness posted:

I live in Arkansas, I don't know what kind of weather I need for that.

Got a recipe/link for the chicken liver pate?

And for the duck prosciutto/confit, are frozen duck breasts fine?

pate: http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1015975-chicken-liver-pate

confit you want to do with leg quarters. prosciutto can be done with frozen breasts just fine. http://ruhlman.com/2009/03/duck-prosciutto/
http://stellaculinary.com/podcasts/video/hcc-1-duck-confit

You can also do pork belly confit and it is awesome.
http://leitesculinaria.com/5723/recipes-pork-belly-confit.html

re: weather, as per: https://pubs.ext.vt.edu/458/458-223/458-223.html

quote:

Early December is the best time to start curing Virginia-style hams under ambient conditions. During the curing period, keep hams at a temperature of 36 to 40° F.

A full blown ham is admittedly a pretty ridiculous first charcuterie project though.

There are a lot of good recipes here, too. It's probably one of my favorite food blogs:
http://frombellytobacon.com/category/charcuterie/

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

goodness posted:

I don't have a smoker yet so that is the only thing holding me back from some things. I know bacon for instance does not need to be smoked but it seems to be a lot better if it is?

you can do it in the oven, it's still worlds better than packaged storebought stuff. Really the only thing you need special tools to make in charcuterie land are sausages and even some dont need grinders and stuffers, specifically capicola/coppa which is just chunks of meat stuffed into middles.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

That Works posted:

Any recommendations for something that can be made from a pork shoulder? I can get those super cheap but the only pork bellies I can find around here sell for >$7-8 per lb which is more than most of the good steak cuts.

Shoulder is kind of the bread and butter of a lot of charcuterie. It's the base for a lot of different sausages both dried and fresh, they make great rillettes, I've made bacon with it (slice it into belly sized slabs before curing, technically called "cottage bacon"), and of course a whole shoulder is what makes a ham.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Oldsrocket_27 posted:

I could order it, but it's a pain in the rear end, I'd rather just get it locally if I can.

Do you have a smart and final? They have both there.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Oldsrocket_27 posted:

It's a pain in the rear end in that my landlord can't/won't label the apartments/entrances on the house I live in for poo poo, and so everything I order online ends up at the wrong apartment, or sometimes at the wrong drat house, or sometimes back at FedEx/UPS/USPS, so it's always a treasure hunt to find out where poo poo actually got delivered to. If I'm going to the store anyway, I can just look or ask while I'm there.

Can you send it to work by any chance?

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004



so this happened yesterday.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Carbon Thief posted:

I just bought Ruhlman's Charcuterie for my uncle for Christmas. There's a really nice spice shop near here that does gift tins of 6-8 spices/herbs/salts so I figured that would go well with the book. What spices would be most practical for starting out with charcuterie? I was thinking peppercorns, maybe fennel or mustard seed? Thanks for any suggestions.

quatre epices (pepper, clove, nutmeg, ginger) is used in a lot of french charcuterie. fennel is good, too.

I'd get him some DQ #1 though, he's probably going to want it for a lot of different things.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

I rinsed my whole ham for equalization yesterday and it had some greenish brown spots. Didn't smell off though so I'm just trudging along with the original plan.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

would

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GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

99 ranch market in Rowland Heights had belly for 2.99/lb a few weeks ago.

I bought like 5 bellies lol

They also routinely have "stewing ducks" for 1.69/lb

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