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KoRMaK posted:this was stated almost plainly, with the slightest bit of inference and deduction needed by the audience. i didn't even think it was a controversy lmao Literal final shot of New Vegas complete with Lucky 38, a Tops billboard and securitrons in the credits and people were still somehow clinging to the evil erasure of all canon lol
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Apr 18, 2024 01:17
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It's too bad Rene Auberjonois passed away. Would've been interesting to see how a House controlled NV shifted without an NCR to siphon resources from and with a Legion that may or may not still be out there and looking for revenge.
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Arc Hammer posted:Heading east in 2077 to fight the Legion at the first Hoover Dam and barely scraping a win could be considered the start of a downward spiral.
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Apr 18, 2024 01:32
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Gaius Marius posted:It's too bad Rene Auberjonois passed away. Would've been interesting to see how a House controlled NV shifted without an NCR to siphon resources from and with a Legion that may or may not still be out there and looking for revenge. Yeah I've been replaying NV and he's a delight to listen to
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Apr 18, 2024 01:45
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Byzantine posted:The fact that people keep going "[exact textual reading of Bethesda-Fallout, like literally things characters say directly to the screen while staring into your eyes], but I'm thinking about it way more than Bethesda does" would be extremely hilarious if it wasn't so constant that I feel like I'm going insane. Which is funny, because I find people having to write pages of fanfiction to try and reconcile the canon and then claiming "oh this is all in the plain text and you're an idiot if you disagree" to be insane compared to the very simple explanation that the creators did not care about contradicting the events of past games when writing their show. Like, do you seriously think there was any more thought to blowing up the NCR beyond "huh, we want to set the show in LA but there's supposed to be some other faction already there in the lore? Let's say they blew up and call it a day." Do you think they just came up with these elaborate justifications of why the NCR capital was moved hundreds of miles or how civil society broke down completely within a decade and a half and then didn't use any of it in the show itself?
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Apr 18, 2024 02:01
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Did anyone ever actually use arcade gannon
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Sex Farm posted:Did anyone ever actually use arcade gannon yea
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Sex Farm posted:Did anyone ever actually use arcade gannon You didn't??? Guy was a great companion. Just sarcastic as hell about everything. Edit: Or wait, did you mean use as in give him to Caesar or the cannibals, in which case no. Who would be so cruel!
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Apr 18, 2024 02:21
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Which is funny, because I find people having to write pages of fanfiction to try and reconcile the canon and then claiming "oh this is all in the plain text and you're an idiot if you disagree" to be insane compared to the very simple explanation that the creators did not care about contradicting the events of past games when writing their show. Like, do you seriously think there was any more thought to blowing up the NCR beyond "huh, we want to set the show in LA but there's supposed to be some other faction already there in the lore? Let's say they blew up and call it a day." Do you think they just came up with these elaborate justifications of why the NCR capital was moved hundreds of miles or how civil society broke down completely within a decade and a half and then didn't use any of it in the show itself? we've already kind of written pages of fan fiction itt speculating on the outcomes of FNV before Amazon Presents Todd Howard's Fallout ever existed, and one of the main takeaways is that the NCR is pretty much hosed without the exact right series of courier-specific choices leading them from the brink they are doomed to repeat all the mistakes the former US government already made, not just if they lose but especially if they win, and that's just one of four possible outcomes not even counting the DLC where there's even more opportunity for their poo poo to get rocked, vault dad dropping a nuke is just the cherry on top of a collapsing state in like 90% of NCR futures what i'm trying to say is sorry NCRailures, house supremacy forever
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Wolfsheim posted:we've already kind of written pages of fan fiction itt speculating on the outcomes of FNV before Amazon Presents Todd Howard's Fallout ever existed, and one of the main takeaways is that the NCR is pretty much hosed House is explicitly reliant on a functional NCR state to leech off of so any ending that results in the NCR getting rocked is also by default bad news for House. so congrats, we both lose!
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out of curiousity i checked and my first posts itt are from september 2011 and arguing with someone about how no, yes man is not secretly evil and going to kill the courier and take over after the ending, really takes me back lolAcebuckeye13 posted:House is explicitly reliant on a functional NCR state to leech off of so any ending that results in the NCR getting rocked is also by default bad news for House. so congrats, we both lose! if anything a capitalist society in decline would funnel even more money towards predatory gambling halls, the house always wins 
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Wolfsheim posted:out of curiousity i checked and my first posts itt are from september 2011 and arguing with someone about how no, yes man is not secretly evil and going to kill the courier and take over after the ending, really takes me back lol can't have a capitalist society without a society!!!
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Which is funny, because I find people having to write pages of fanfiction to try and reconcile the canon and then claiming "oh this is all in the plain text and you're an idiot if you disagree" to be insane compared to the very simple explanation that the creators did not care about contradicting the events of past games when writing their show. That's actually my bad, I posted that in the wrong thread. There's a different thread where somebody was going "i guess there's other super mutant factories on the east coast? dunno how they'd get there otherwise, but i don't think bethesda thought that hard about it". Wolfsheim posted:Literal final shot of New Vegas complete with Lucky 38, a Tops billboard and securitrons in the credits and people were still somehow clinging to the evil erasure of all canon lol Ahhh, it all makes sense now. NCR stans are raging because despite having freedœmocracy, their imperial conquests ended in overextension and collapse just like every single other time.
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Cleaning my basement.
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I got Arcade Gannon as a companion only once I think I loved his “Uhhhh….” if you aim your weapon at him
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tango alpha delta posted:Cleaning my basement. Intensely jealous of you. Lost my guide ages ago.
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RandolphCarter posted:Intensely jealous of you. Lost my guide ages ago. I thought I'd lost it too. I was very surprised to find it in a box in a lonely corner of my basement. I just found this. https://annarchive.com/files2/Fallout%20Vault%27s%20Dweller%20Survival%20Guide.pdf Please enjoy.
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tango alpha delta posted:Cleaning my basement. Dang. Pretty sure mine is long gone. I might have the CD stashed somewhere but I have no idea where, I haven't touched a disc in 15 years.
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Cat Hassler posted:I got Arcade Gannon as a companion only once I think I loved his “Uhhhh….” if you aim your weapon at him Try playing as a low INT build and he takes pity on you and agrees to follow because you definitely need help.
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Arc Hammer posted:Try playing as a low INT build and he takes pity on you and agrees to follow because you definitely need help. You can also recruit him this way with a high INT build if you get really hosed up on alcohol and ant chems before talking to him.
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Grand Fromage posted:Dang. Pretty sure mine is long gone. I might have the CD stashed somewhere but I have no idea where, I haven't touched a disc in 15 years. I know this is a little off topic, but you seem to be someone that might appreciate something else I found:
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tango alpha delta posted:I know this is a little off topic, but you seem to be someone that might appreciate something else I found: Nice. I don't think I ever had the box, just a secondhand CD.
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Grand Fromage posted:Nice. I don't think I ever had the box, just a secondhand CD. One of the very, very best games I've ever played. Even the Body of The Many, though it''s a huge pain in the rear end. To get back on topic: 1) I binged all 8 episodes in a single night because it was so good. 2) Fallout 3 and New Vegas are absolutely rock solid on my Steamdeck; I've never had a single crash even after hours of playtime; Proton is some kind of wizard magic. 3) New Vegas is my favorite.
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Even if the timeline makes complete sense and everything fits, to me it feels uncool for them to have such a massive change happen in the backstory of a tv show. Like how the bad guy built up the first 3 Assassin's Creed games was killed in a comic book. Growing the NCR was something that I, personally did when I played all those games so if anyone gets to destroy it then it should be me! Though it could be interesting to explore society living in the shadow of the New Old World, atop the Old Old World in a potential Fallout game coming out in 2034. Fallout: Pentiment?
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tango alpha delta posted:I know this is a little off topic, but you seem to be someone that might appreciate something else I found: it's so loving funny to me that shodan being in system shock 2 is built up as a twist in the game and then every piece of supplemental material is like this
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Gaius Marius posted:It's too bad Rene Auberjonois passed away. Would've been interesting to see how a House controlled NV shifted without an NCR to siphon resources from and with a Legion that may or may not still be out there and looking for revenge. Mr house was eaten by a grue. Vegas, um, fell into the ground. It has since been replaced by another exciting Brotherhood of Steel base. Oh and the legion vanished and their place was taken over by androids sent over by the institute
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Actually all of FNV after the intro was just a dream induced by the bullet stuck in the courier’s head you can thank me for saving your canon
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chadbear posted:Actually all of FNV after the intro was just a dream induced by the bullet stuck in the courier’s head you can thank me for saving your canon So if FNV is out of canon, does that bring Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel back into canon? Fallout has had a distinct lack of Bawls Energy Drink for far too long now.
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tango alpha delta posted:I know this is a little off topic, but you seem to be someone that might appreciate something else I found: The PC big box is the GOAT physical media. I recently picked up a mint condition copy of Unreal Tournament 99 with the foldout cover like this and it's amazing.
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I always figured the 2277 thing was a production mistake but I don't buy that we get a date for a vague fall of Shady Sands but not for the actual nuke falling which would be extremely easy to date, but either way, it doesn't fundamentally change my problems with the show because they weren't strictly about invalidating New Vegas' place in the canon. At the very least, though, it should hopefully calm some of the dumbest discussion.
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NCR got nuked because some rear end in a top hat courier wouldn't sacrifice a copy of his flying robot buddy.
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Angry Salami posted:NCR got nuked because some rear end in a top hat courier wanted a spiffy coat.
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Angry Salami posted:NCR got nuked because some rear end in a top hat soldier got mad at a courier for "desecrating a war memorial"
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Angry Salami posted:NCR got nuked because some rear end in a top hat courier miss clicked on a menu.
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Gaius Marius posted:It's too bad Rene Auberjonois passed away. Would've been interesting to see how a House controlled NV shifted without an NCR to siphon resources from and with a Legion that may or may not still be out there and looking for revenge. They already recast House, if they want him to be in there, he'll be in there.
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Making House the canon ending would actually be the most unforgivable thing that Bethesda could have done, unless they correctly decide to make him the villain next season
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:They already recast House, if they want him to be in there, he'll be in there. He's in the show already?
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I want it to be the Yes Man ending and it turns out the entire time that Hank was talking to the House avatar on the big screen he was being tricked by Yes Man behind a literal curtain.
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esquilax posted:I want it to be the Yes Man ending and it turns out the entire time that Hank was talking to the House avatar on the big screen he was being tricked by Yes Man behind a literal curtain. Hey, Dave Foley is still alive and well!
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