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Ah cool a new whisk(e)y thread, I missed the old one. A few notes on the OP: wormil posted:The main types of whisk(e)y you'll encounter are: quote:Tennessee Whiskey - similar to bourbon but sometimes filtered through charcoal, must be distilled in Tennessee quote:Single Malt - a whisky from one distillery from a single type of malt
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wormil posted:Those are the two I'm familiar with although there are two additional distilleries listed in wikipedia and it says they do not filter, which is why I wrote "sometimes filtered". The other two are not sold in my state (not unusual, state run liquor sucks rear end) so I'm unfamiliar with them. quote:I meant one as single. Do any distilleries have multiple locations? Well you say "from a single type of malt", and I don't think the type of malt is in any way regulated.
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Oct 15, 2011 21:33
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Uigeadail is a cut or two above QC in my opinion. It's a truly great dram.
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Oct 19, 2011 17:46
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Wilitus posted:So I started my foray into whiskeys by purchasing a bottle of Highland park 12 year old single malt, and well I liked it enough but now I'm looking for something with a little more smoke and robustness, any suggestions? One step above the HP in terms of smoke and robustness would be Talisker. I can recommend basically any Talisker, the 10YO is very good value especially. The 57 North or the 18 are fantastic but a tad pricey. A few steps above that are Islay whiskies. I can recommend Ardbeg, Laphroaig and Lagavulin personally. I can't really decide which distillery is better, I kind of like them all.  They each have their characteristics.Other Islays are good too like Bowmore, Bruichladdich, Bunnahabhain but these are less strongly flavoured. Caol Ila is also a peaty bugger but has more iodine which might not be what you're looking for. There's several peated non-islays that are worth looking at, Benriach makes a few good ones, Connemara (Irish peated) is generally well-liked but is a bit lacking in body IMHO.
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Oct 20, 2011 21:22
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Don't forget green spot, probably the best Irish I've tried.
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Nov 20, 2011 14:58
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Ben Nevis posted:Bought this at the beginning of summer for hot weather drinking, and I was pretty impressed. It was very tasty. Nice user name.
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Nov 23, 2011 16:06
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The tube types hold WAY less than the hip flasks so there's that.
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Nov 24, 2011 21:42
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Cinnamon Bastard posted:I'm also working my way through a 750ml of 40 Creek. 40's not exactly Man Fuel, but it's a fantastic accessible Whisky. Especially delicious in a sufficiently dark coffee. I've tried Forty Creek and it's one of the better Canadian Whisky's I've tried. Canadian whisky in general isn't really "man fuel" because the style of whisky in Canada is very light.
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Dec 9, 2011 09:11
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Killer robot posted:The wood characteristics are a pretty major part of what makes American whiskeys, as I understand it. Absolutely, since the laws surrounding Bourbon dictate the use of new white oak barrels every time, whereas with Scotch there is no such requirement and consequently the re-use of barrels is very common.
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Dec 10, 2011 00:31
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Kenning posted:The crazy thing about Scotch barreling is how a fundamental character of the whisky has changed due to seemingly unrelated economics. A couple hundred years ago the vast majority of Scotch was aged in old port, sherry, or Madeira barrels, since those Iberian fortified wines were insanely popular in Britain and were being imported en masse. Rather than pay to ship back empty barrels, people would sell them dirt cheap to the distilleries. That gave the Scotch a particular character. Yes, and it's even gotten tot the point where due to the shortage in sherry casks, some heavily sherried whisky expressions (like old-style Macallan) are importing barrels of sherry, then dumping out the contents and filling it with distillate.
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Dec 11, 2011 13:26
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muscat_gummy posted:So my boyfriend suggested that I buy him some good whiskey for Christmas, specifically bourbon. Any recommendations? I'm looking to stay in the $40 - $60 range. I don't usually spend more than $20/750ml, so I'd really like to find something that's at least a good deal. fake edit: Wow that website is terrible.
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Dec 11, 2011 19:58
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There's tons of good choices here but i'd get him Lagavulin 16 YO personally. It's a peaty Scotch from Islay and one of the better ones at that.
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Dec 11, 2011 23:06
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muscat_gummy posted:Thanks for the recommendations! Excellent choice, I like it a lot.  The Uigeadail is Ardbeg that has been "finished" in sherry casks for 6(?) months, which imparts a sweetness to the otherwise smoky briny Ardbeg. It works very well. spankmeister fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Dec 13, 2011 |
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Dec 13, 2011 09:10
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Can't go wrong with Highland Park 12! A great dram and it's one of the cheaper Single Malts. e: reading comprehension, derp. You've already tried it.
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Dec 13, 2011 15:50
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I'm a snob when it comes to whisky, I don't really consider Canadian whisky proper whisky, since most brands mix in neutral grain spirit.
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Dec 19, 2011 16:24
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Turnquiet posted:Costco has a three bottle gift pack that includes Dewars 12, Dewars 18, and Dewars Aberfeldy 12 single malt for $99. What do people think of those three? Eeehhhh.... Maybe get the Aberfeldy separately, forget about those two blends.
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Dec 22, 2011 09:07
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zonacat posted:Had 2 gift pack choices at Costco. Absolutely, nothing wrong with glenlivet, but it doesn't hold a candle against HP, imho.
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Dec 28, 2011 09:23
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Balvenie is a fine whisky but comparing it to Laphroaig??? Nah, it's both single malt scotch whisky but really the styles could not be further apart within those bounds.kidsafe posted:I don't know though...I think I'd choose the Glenlivet pack based on bang for the buck. $100 for three bottles vs. $115 for two. Glenlivet 18yr is no slouch and the 15yr French Oak is an interesting diversion (much like HP 15yr is a diversion from the rest of HP's core range, too bad it isn't included in the gift pack.) I glossed over the part where the HP set was two, and the 'livet set was 3 bottles. On second thought the Glenlivet set was probably the best deal. Glenlivet 18 and 15 French oak are quite excellent. Still I'd take an equivalent HP over them any day.
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Dec 30, 2011 02:19
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Had some Yamazaki Sherry Cask and after that some Ardbeg Uigeadail. What were your new years drams Goons?
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Jan 1, 2012 12:31
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DoctaFun posted:Yay, a new whiskey thread! quote:As for scotch, I am far less experienced. I like the Balvenie doublewood, which besides the taste I really like because the aforementioned liquor store sells it for $32 a bottle! They also have the Balvenie Signature for $36, would you guys recommend that for an extra $4? I like the Glenfiddich 15 I have, and The Dalmore 12(I don't like this quite as much as the doublewood). I have found that I don't like the peaty scotch's, I have tried some Talisker 10 and it was hard for me to finish it. quote:I also got a bottle of Jameson 12 special reserve from a friend, so I'm anxious to try that out. I haven't had any irish whiskey besides regular Jameson. If I like it I might have to check out some other varieties like RedBreast or something. quote:Also, I was just thinking of how hard it would be to start a new distillery to make and sell scotch. I mean aren't you looking at 10-12 years before you can even sell product? That's a long time and a lot of operating cost you have to eat before you can make any money. e: not sure if Amrut has just started distilling or if they've been at it for some time. spankmeister fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 3, 2012 |
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Jan 3, 2012 23:36
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DoctaFun posted:I would love to try this, but I haven't seen it any stores around my house. This is normally pretty pricy too right? quote:Do you mean it's in a different league than Jameson's normal offering, or just any Jameson in general? I know Jameson is marketed pretty hard and is thus pretty 'popular', but is the 12 year not any better than the normal stuff? I'll definitely try out the redbreast sometime though. quote:I guess I just haven't seen many scotch's sold that advertise anything less than 8-10 years aged. And I know geographic location has a lot to do with how quickly the whisky ages, and comparing years isn't apples to apples between different distilleries. But is there much of a market for 3 year aged scotch? I'm not talking American whiskey or canadian, but scotch. It would be pretty rad to start your own distillery, but it also makes sense why so many of the distilleries are so old. Pretty daunting task to put up money for 3+ years before you can really sell anything. Do a lot of the distilleries sell off a portion of their product after 3-7 years to be used in blends or for other purposes or anything? Generally speaking, if it's less than 10 years they will just omit any age statement. And most of the young whisky produced by the established brands does go into blends. But I doubt if a distiller is just starting that they will be able to sell their young product to blenders. In any case small independent distillers that have just started will generally not be interested in selling to blenders, but they want to sell their product as single malt. Taking Penderyn as an example, it's a distillery that started 6-odd years ago in Wales producing malt whisky. Once their product reached 4YO or so they started bottling it, and quite successfully, it's rather good. I wonder how the 10YO will be in a couple of years.
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Jan 4, 2012 00:04
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Killer robot posted:To be a little more detailed on Canadian whisky, the thing is that it's not really terribly defined. They're usually mostly corn based, but there's no requirement for them to be. They often are called "rye" but don't actually have to have rye either. They need to be barrel-aged, but it doesn't need to be any particular type of barrels so may or may not add flavor. It can be distilled, as Kenning says, to nearly pure alcohol before that aging, which reduces the grain character. So really it's totally up to what the distiller wants to make, as long as it's made in Canada. Crown Royal isn't a bad one but isn't amazing, there are doubtless better brands I'm not familiar with, but at the lower end you're basically getting brown vodka that at best is mixing material. One of the things that sucks about Canadian whisky is that they can blend in neutral grain spirit after aging.
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Jan 13, 2012 11:47
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I think we can conclude that the vast majority of Canadian whisky is crap. Sorry Canada 
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Jan 14, 2012 11:42
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LogisticEarth posted:So I got some of those "whisky stones" for Christmas. Does/Has anyone use them here? I've read they're supposed to chill the spirits by a few degrees without making it super cold and without watering it down. Might be helpful as my apartment tends to flucuate between 70-80F even in the winter (I don't control my heat), and my room-temperature stuff always seems a bit "hot". Putting straight whiskey on ice always seems to kill the flavors for me, so I avoid it. I don't use them as I always drink at room temp, but it's better than ice I suppose because it doesn't water down your drink.
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Jan 14, 2012 15:24
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Jetfire posted:It's just we keep all the good stuff to ourselves. Actually I've only ever bought one full bottle of Canadian whisky, and it was Forty Creek. But Forty Creek is the exception unfortunately. Have you tried Glen Breton btw?
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Jan 14, 2012 21:13
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A $240 bottle of Jameson is probably good but nothing beats Redbreast 15 or even the 12.
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Jan 18, 2012 00:50
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pork never goes bad posted:That said, for some of the tip-toppest Irish whiskies topping out around $150 try Middleton Very Rare, Connemara 12, or Tyrconnell's top end offerings. Redbreast is also very good, the 15 year in particular. Never had the pleasure, but experts would disagree with you about Midleton being the pinnacle, instead Redbreast is widely regarded to be the best, by professional whisky tasters. So, if I come across a bottle for a reasonable price (not likely) or find one in a bar for a reasonable price (slightly more likely) I'll be sure to try it out.
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Jan 18, 2012 09:21
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spandexcajun posted:I had a glass of Beefeater on the rocks at my wife's grandparents house sometime ago, grandpa informed me it was from his first marriage, in the 60's! It tasted the same as any gin I have ever had, although I am not a big gin fan. Well by the looks of it you like Speyside whiskies, I suggest the Glenlivet 15 French Oak or the Glenfiddich Solera Reserve, Macallan has some very nice offerings like the 12YO Fine Oak. These are all rather light but rich in flavour.
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Jan 19, 2012 09:11
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Killer robot posted:Best thing about high proof whiskeys is that a little water and you have exactly what the 80 proof version would be anyway. Higher-proof whiskies are better value.
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Jan 24, 2012 09:57
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wormil posted:After all the grief you gave me over putting an ice cube in bourbon. I believe, but I may be mistaken, that I said that adding a splash of water is A-OK but that adding an ice cube dulls your tastebuds first of all and second of all adds way too much water. But if I didn't say that, well I said it now.  Small splash of water is fine, ice cubes are still a crime.  But drink your bourbon however the gently caress you want, I don't really care in the end 
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Jan 25, 2012 09:09
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NightConqueror posted:Had some Laphroaig 10 tonight with another friend who's a fan of scotch. The stuff was unbelievably smoky, woody and peaty - really wonderful, unique flavor. Totally hooked. Once you go
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Jan 28, 2012 10:48
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Yeah the problem is also that you should start with the lightest whisky first, then work you way up to the heavier ones. Drinking a 'froig before a macallan is the exact opposite of what to do.
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Jan 28, 2012 10:59
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Seconding the Four Roses Single Barrel recommendation. It's the bourbon that made me interested in bourbons. It can vary from bottle to bottle because each barrel is different, but I haven't had a bad bottle yet.
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Jan 31, 2012 09:25
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Stultus Maximus posted:Anybody have experience with Speyburn? I saw it at the store around the same price point as Glenlivet. For that money I think Glenlivet has the edge. e: The speyburn is like the $5 handle of vodka of the single malts. It's like THE cheapest SM I think.
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Feb 1, 2012 22:41
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Hypnolobster posted:
I'm drinking one right now. 
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Feb 1, 2012 23:38
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It's not incredibly special but for $26 it's a good deal.
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Feb 11, 2012 10:04
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wormil posted:Got an email yesterday from Woodford announcing Double Oaked will be available the first week of March. This will be their regular offering of what was the Oak Finish Master Collection. Great news for those of us who loved it. Hopefully it will be available in my state. Suggested retail is $50/bottle. Cool, I hope it makes it across the pond.
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Feb 18, 2012 09:58
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d3rt posted:Thanks for the advice everyone. You can stay with the light stuff for now, but someday you'll graduate to the manly stuff.
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Feb 19, 2012 21:22
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I like Japanese whisky. I do get the feeling that there's a difference in philosophy which you can taste. In Scotland it was more or less luck of the draw where you'd build your distillery, how your stills were shaped, how the water was etc... If you were on a peat-rich island you'd dry your malt with peat, if not, you'd use something else. Took a lot of experimentation with different kinds of malts and barrels and distilling to get it right. It wasn't an exact science but it turns out that for the most part it worked out good and you got a nice whisky. It seems to me that the Japanese tried to copy the success of the Scotch distilleries. They are very meticulous about their whisky, with importing stills from Scotland made to exact specification and such. (Something distilleries in Scotland do now too, of course). Taking a very calculated approach to get the exact kind of distillate they were aiming for. I find that you can taste the meticulous care in the quality of Japanese whisky, but it lacks a certain character, it's almost too well-rounded. Scotch whisky may have some imperfections here and there, but it adds to the character of the dram. If y'all get what I mean.
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Schpyder posted:I haven't tried it yet, but I do know that it's a Beam product, and I'm not particularly fond of any particular Beam bourbon, so I'll probably just pass on it entirely. Have you tried any of the Beam bourbons that don't have Beam on the label, like Knob Creek? I prefer woodford over knob but it's not bad.
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