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I am seriously considering moving away from the Google home ecosystem, which we haven't invested too heavily in but has been annoying me. Mostly it's because the Nest Hub software seems to be getting worse year by year rather than better. We have 3 Google Wifi pucks that work ok as well as a Nest Hub, Nest Hub Max, and a little Lenovo clock with a charger. We also have a projector that runs Android and is the OS is starting to show its age, particularly the Plex client. So the plan would be to get an Apple TV as the Plex player and redo the network, get rid of the Nest hubs, and maybe add an Apple smart speaker. In that case what would be a good Wifi ecosystem to get into? I do have a 5 year old Unifi Edgerouter X that I never figured out how to use as well as an AC lite. Would it be worth investing in the Unifi ecosystem at this point? I have heard mixed things. Mobile devices are mostly iPhones and Macs with a few chromebooks. House is about 2000 sq feet, 3 stories so probably would need at least 2 APs for coverage. TIA!
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Fwiw my Google Home mesh wifi thing was great when I got it early 2020, and it just started sucking and needing manual reboots every ~3 days about a year ago. I bought the Asus mesh version with just two devices, but I made that the main router ... and plugged the Google poo poo into it so that's still running. All my smart home poo poo is still running on the Google network, our office computers are running from the Asus network, but I haven't needed to reboot it since I set it up over a month ago  I'm using the Asus ZenWifi XT9 now. Devices with Wifi7 seem INSANELY priced. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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6/6E is barely a thing; what’s the upside of 7?
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Shumagorath posted:6/6E is barely a thing; what’s the upside of 7? WiFi 6 was mostly about better total system performance for lots of clients and barely improved single client performance. 6E expanded into a bunch of new spectrum, hopefully getting you clean air until your neighbor upgrades too. 7 will increase single client speeds again, but by using even wider channels and even bonding together 2.4 And 5ghz on a single connection: https://www.wiisfi.com/#wifi7 Edit: also we already had 2gbps wifi 10 years ago as 802.11ad, nobody wanted it and it died: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Gigabit_Alliance
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Yes, but this one goes to 11.
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Twerk from Home posted:Edit: also we already had 2gbps wifi 10 years ago as 802.11ad, nobody wanted it and it died: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Gigabit_Alliance 60Ghz 802.11ad/ay gear exists in the wild but mostly for inter-building bridging rather than directly to client endpoints. Examples: https://ui.com/us/en/wifi/building-bridge https://mikrotik.com/products/group/60-ghz-products
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teethgrinder posted:Fwiw my Google Home mesh wifi thing was great when I got it early 2020, and it just started sucking and needing manual reboots every ~3 days about a year ago. This sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. I'd move the clients over to the new wireless network or create the old Google wireless network on the Asus devices and then remove the Google stuff.
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Where's the nightmare, seriously? To be more detailed, the old Google network is running 2.4GHz which most of the internet of poo poo stuff is running on at home. I disabled 2.4 on the Asus network. I am not against testing all the switches and bulbs (and washing machine, and Google Hubs + cameras) on the new network, but I'm really not seeing what the harm is in letting that be its own thing, and my "important" stuff running on the new one. But also the Asus gear seems way better at just being a normal router. The Google Mesh poo poo is just behind the Asus one now wrt WAN.
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I'd be mostly concerned about double NAT or two different DHCP servers. Did the device that was needing regular reboots get removed or is it still in place? After that I'd just personally not prefer to have to maintain two different systems if I didn't have to. It's not hard to just add the old SSID and password to the new WAPs. If you know all this and aren't looking for advice, then by all means more power to you. Tossing poo poo together and hoping for the best isn't something I'd personally want hanging over my head.
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Twerk from Home posted:WiFi 6 was mostly about better total system performance for lots of clients and barely improved single client performance. 6E expanded into a bunch of new spectrum, hopefully getting you clean air until your neighbor upgrades too. 7 will increase single client speeds again, but by using even wider channels and even bonding together 2.4 And 5ghz on a single connection: https://www.wiisfi.com/#wifi7 There are a lot more non-overlapping channel sets on 6 GHz which will be great even as that spectrum fills up. 5 GHz is only 3 channels if you don't touch DFS channels and use 80 MHz width.
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movax posted:Getting some weird RSTP issues with UniFi now... I realized my den is the coolest room in the house, so I moved my new NAS build down there, since I have a MoCA adapter in that room also. Moved a switch to be connected to that MoCA adapter to feed the NAS until I get around to running fiber to that spot. Moved the switch upstairs and tested it out, no issues. I replaced the MoCA adapter with another one I had in the closet, and bingo-bango, problem solved. I'll have to factory reset the 'flaky' one / see what's up... it never caused problems before, so maybe there is something 'stuck' in config, or it's actually bad HW and it is marginal on the RF front-end, who knows.
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Shumagorath posted:6/6E is barely a thing; what’s the upside of 7? Wifi 5->6 was a decent enough update, but nothing worth trashing gear over unless you had an active problem. 6->7 is very very incremental for home users. Remember most of this stuff is geared at extremely high density requirements businesses need. The price premium of Wifi7 is simply a non-starter for me. I only upgraded from Unifi AC -> 6-Lite because one of my AC's died. Just now I looked at the difference from 6-Lite to 6-Pro or 7 equipment and there would be 0 benefits to me, and on 7 gear potentially even drawbacks as clients started using 6Ghz. And then I looked at the cost, which was all higher, and I stuck with a $99 6-Lite. (6GHz would likely result in a lot of roaming, because I'm not necessarily going to install sufficient APs to prevent roaming.)
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My experience with 6E to date has been that since the spec calls for WPA3 almost all cheap devices do not support it. I had to make a separate 2.4Ghz network for things like my printer and Roku and DIY WLED solutions since they wouldn’t even acknowledge the 2.4Ghz portion of the 6E network as existing. The next experience was having most clients other than my new iPhone not able to use full bandwidth channels, so I ended up rolling everything back to 40/80 so that all the other devices would work. And the third bit is that I’ve yet to ever need more than even mediocre WiFi speeds, which small channels and wifi 5 were more than capable of hitting.
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I've decided to use WiFi 7 as the excuse to upgrade my Apple devices, actually... or at least part of the reason. My iPhone 13 has a non-functional charging port + battery is decaying and with how lovely the build quality has gotten on those, I'd rather just get a new one than spend money on a new battery + repair of my existing one (RIP eWaste), if the rumors for this fall hold true. Likewise, my M2 MBA is virtually perfect, battery only has 206 cycles on it since October 2022 and is the perfect laptop in every way... but next year if a M4 model comes with a WiFi 7 radio, I might use that as an excuse to upgrade. I spent 30 minutes on a lunch break looking up the radio module on the mobo to see if it was reasonably possible to rework on the mainboard of the M2 MBA, but 1) antenna differences, 2) the chances of the footprint actually being the same between mobos is low, Apple has no reason to do that. Do I have WiFi 7 APs at the office? Nope... but I do at home and this logic feeds my brainworms. The U6-Pro was starting to reboot nightly (off to eBay you go, as-is for $20!) so a U7-Pro made sense as nothing I owned really took advantage of the 4x4 configuration of the U6-Pro. until Ubiquiti trolls everyone and never rolls out MLO on the U7-Pro
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ryanrs posted:How does a lovely 2.4-only device even know you're turning 5 GHz on and off? movax posted:I wouldn't think a 2.4 only device like a ESP32-based thing would even be aware of 5GHz -- IIRC the analog front end / entire PHY there is simply 2.4 only. The world does not exist to its ADC outside of 2.4. quote:Dumb question... 2.4/5/6 all share the same BSSID / MAC from the AP, right? I don't think there is a different MAC per band, is there? But then WiFi 7 MLO, you do need to be able to tell the difference between STAs... The AP nearest my desk is a UAP-AC-Pro which has two actual radios, one for 2.4GHz and one for 5GHz. I have it configured to broadcast three SSIDs, one of which is exclusive to 2.4GHz, one exclusive to 5GHz, and one available on both. The device is labeled with its ethernet MAC which is in the format x0:xx:xx:76:xx:xx. If I log in to it over SSH and run iwconfig, I see four "athX" interfaces, one for each single band SSID and two for the multi-band SSID. The two single-band entries are f0:xx:xx:77:xx:xx and f0:xx:xx:78:xx:xx while the multi-band one is f6:xx:xx:77:xx:xx and f6:xx:xx:78:xx:xx. There are also two "element-" and "vwire-" SSIDs configured on each radio using fa:xx:xx:77:xx:xx/fa:xx:xx:78:xx:xx and fe:xx:xx:77:xx:xx/fe:xx:xx:78:xx:xx which appear to be for wireless meshing and auto-adoption of wireless-only UniFi devices. I don't use either of those so I just disabled those, but it seems to show further how the concept works. Every unique combination of SSID and radio gets its own MAC/BSSID. How this loops back around to lovely IoT gadgets is that a subset of these devices, rather than storing a SSID and password in fact store a BSSID and password. Maybe it's to save space in EEPROM/NVRAM/whatever, maybe it's for faster association when the device wakes, maybe it's just so the device doesn't have to handle whatever unicode emoji barf someone put in their SSID for fun. Either way, if we assume the phone app is sending the device the BSSID of the AP it's connected to instead of the SSID of the network it all makes sense, the phone sends the hardware address of a network the IoT device can't ever see. Shumagorath posted:6/6E is barely a thing; what’s the upside of 7? The other thing that's interesting for personal use is support for non-contiguous channels. With WiFi 6 a 160MHz wide channel has to be a single chunk of spectrum, which means it's always been really hard to use that mode outside of WiFi 6E's relatively clean bandwidth. There are only a few 160MHz channels available and if your neighbors' 5GHz networks happen to fall in the middle of them you're not going to have a great time. WiFi 7 allows the use of a pair of 80MHz wide channels separate from each other in a given band, making 160 on 5GHz viable for a lot more users. They also introduce support for 320MHz in the form of a pair of 160MHz channels, as well as a mix-and-match mode with 80+160 for 240MHz total. Both of these will be useful as 6GHz gets more popular and we start having to care about interference there too. They also increased the modulation from 1024 QAM to 4096 QAM and allow 16-way MU-MIMO instead of just 8-way, but neither of those are going to substantially impact most users as the former is just for the best of radio conditions and the latter is hard to notice without a lot of active devices.
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Can I get a router recommendation? I live in a 2 story house. Current router (second-hand "tenda" ac1200 a friend gave me) works fine bandwith and coverage-wise but loses connection to the modem randomly and has to be rebooted, and I don't like its admin panel. In the days of yore I always had some linksys from the thrift store with tomato on it. I'd like something I can ssh into or at least get lots of logs and metrics and diagnostic stuff. Tools for me to figure out why my TV's stream resolution is always dropping randomly. Or just generally learn a bit more about network admin.
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SamDabbers posted:60Ghz 802.11ad/ay gear exists in the wild but mostly for inter-building bridging rather than directly to client endpoints.
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Wireless, but you still gotta be in the same room and within 20 ft of the AP. It probably makes sense for dense deployments. And imagine the  if you can get the school district to buy 4 APs per classroom.
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Sometimes I post and complain about my ubiquti gear but I've recently switched from wfh to working in the office and using teleport to vpn into my network and bypass work content blocking has been very nice and smooth.
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phosdex posted:Sometimes I post and complain about my ubiquti gear but I've recently switched from wfh to working in the office and using teleport to vpn into my network and bypass work content blocking has been very nice and smooth. Hopefully you're doing this on your personal phone or something like that, and not a work laptop. Would suck if you got nailed for this. Unless you are the person who would be doin the nailing 
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Yeah just my phone. I'm in a group that could bypass the blocker but I only do that when needed on work laptop.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The thought of using 60GHz in an indoors environment is loving hilarious. The idea that 60GHz was ever going to be usable for laptops or mobile devices to get online was always silly for sure, since anyone walking between the two points would interrupt the signal. I guess perhaps there might have been some uses similar to the TV/projector thing where a computer needed to go somewhere that was a pain in the rear end to wire but a 60GHz antenna could be stuck on the wall somewhere above head level.
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60 GHz is the real reason they moved you into an open-plan office with really high ceilings
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Maybe-dumb question: I just swapped to mesh wifi and it's solved some problems, but the hubs only have a single LAN ethernet port and one of em needs multiple devices attached via ethernet. Currently I have an Xfinity modem set up for bridging, connected to the mesh router which is hanging out DHCP addresses. Any reason I can't/shouldn't set up my old router in bridging mode as well and basically turn it into a switch? So Xfinity bridge --> router --> bridge --> multiple wired devices?
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rivetz posted:Maybe-dumb question: I just swapped to mesh wifi and it's solved some problems, but the hubs only have a single LAN ethernet port and one of em needs multiple devices attached via ethernet. Currently I have an Xfinity modem set up for bridging, connected to the mesh router which is hanging out DHCP addresses. Any reason I can't/shouldn't set up my old router in bridging mode as well and basically turn it into a switch? So Xfinity bridge --> router --> bridge --> multiple wired devices? You can do that if you make sure to change the LAN address on the old router, don't use the WAN port, turn off wifi, turn off DHCP. I'd just spend $20 on an ethernet switch. Unless you mean to use it as a wireless bridge, where it would act as a wifi to ethernet endpoint somewhere else. You could do that, it will depend if the router supports that mode since it needs to act like a wifi client instead of a host. Usually if they have that kind of support then they'll know to turn off the appropriate services themselves.
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Any good ideas or solutions for sort of "poor man" server cabinets? I somehow entirely forgot when I was building my media server box (build in a thermaltake v21 cube) that I'll need to look at networking (particularly segmentation / VLAN) because I want the media server to be entirely isolated from the rest of my home network. Hosting JellyFin for friends and will be setting up reverse-proxy and Tailscale but still makes sense to segment it since its going to be one of my only internet facing services in my homelab. So I'm struggling to figure out how/where to put my NAS given now I'll also need to look at some switching too. Any good resources or ideas on the hardware side of things? I should've just bit the bullet and went fully into rack / cabinet builds but I wanted to start small with just one thing (media server), but now I'm realizing the modularity of these setups are very good.
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How fast for the networking? If just gigabit, then even $70 Netgear GS308EP does vlans, and it's small and fanless and has a metal case and PoE (and is cheaper than the non-PoE GS308E). So yeah, how fast and how poor?
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Went to a local businesses estate sale as they're shutting down and noticed they had Ubiquiti cameras. Well a little talking later and I own a UDM Pro and NVR for $350. The NVR has four 6TB Western Union purple drives.  e: Two of the HDDs have bad sectors 
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I just got an email from spectrum saying that my connection was now symmetrical and lo and behold it is. Now I can at least stop pining for a fiber connection for a while I guess.
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Hell yeah symmetric service. I only bothered with a 500Mbps plan when 2.5Gbps is available because once I can upload at half a gig there's really nothing else I need.
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Arson Daily posted:I just got an email from spectrum saying that my connection was now symmetrical and lo and behold it is. Now I can at least stop pining for a fiber connection for a while I guess. Where do you live? I'm hoping Spectrum can get me symmetrical service since At&t fiber skipped my side of the street. E: I called Spectrum and they have an ETA for my corner of the DFW area of 5/21 
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Does anyone in the US use Verizon wireless for home internet? We’re about to switch cell phones and they have a special for home internet as well. You can try it for 30 days so I’m not super worried about it sucking but I’d love to hear peoples experiences. I use Comcast now and that bill has grown so much for little value that I’m really hoping I can tell them to gently caress off, at least for a while. We should be in a really good area for wireless coverage and I would plan to test it a ton before committing. Looking at their router it looks like I can plug my UDM PRO in and change nothing else hopefully. Moving to a different provider always seems like such a huge risk because you never seem to know if all of a sudden they’re going to suck. Thanks capitalistic oligopoly
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I do not, but one thing I’ve seen multiple people mention about cellular based ISPs (like Verizon Wireless & T-Mobile Home Internet) is that their WAN IP geolocation is all over the place, which could be an issue with services like streaming live TV where it uses your geo located IP address to determine your location sports stations and such. Also, you’ll probably be behind CGNAT which could be a pain.
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yeah symmetric is great but makes me really feel like I should back up stuff more aggressively to take advantage of it slowly, slowly I’m collecting the parts to get my home network to 5Gbit, and then I will get to stare for a long time at the 8Gbit offering from my ISP, hovering over the button
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namlosh posted:Does anyone in the US use Verizon wireless for home internet? We’re about to switch cell phones and they have a special for home internet as well. You can try it for 30 days so I’m not super worried about it sucking but I’d love to hear peoples experiences. I use Comcast now and that bill has grown so much for little value that I’m really hoping I can tell them to gently caress off, at least for a while. Is it wireless home internet or FIOS? I've used comcast and verizon fios at the same address and fios has been way more reliable and faster. Costs are similar, though.
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I've used Verizon mobile broadband as home Internet for a few years, it was only as an alternative to dial up. Worked good, latency was ok, better than sat, worse than land lines. (probably better now days) As mentioned your geo location is all over the place which can be annoying depending on your use case.
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Internet Explorer posted:I'd be mostly concerned about double NAT or two different DHCP servers. Did the device that was needing regular reboots get removed or is it still in place? After that I'd just personally not prefer to have to maintain two different systems if I didn't have to. It's not hard to just add the old SSID and password to the new WAPs. edit: it was both the smartest and stupidest networking device I've ever bought. The only one I haven't been able to manually configure one way or another, but that was acceptable when it "just worked". But one day it stopped just working. If I understand correctly, more modern ones have custom firmware available, but I just wouldn't risk it. Also the Asus just does everything someone with basic network comprehension would need... gently caress it even lets you schedule a reboot which would have been a fine bandaid on the Nest poo poo. late edit #2: but not sure if I regret the Google Mesh ... it was really not bad at the time and I feel I didn't see better alternatives available when we really needed it (the sudden WFH rush). And frankly the smart speaker stuff has worked great all this time and we're still using that. I'd be happy to get better ones, but haven't found great alternatives for a decent price. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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Thanks for the replies re:Verizon everybody. The switch is on hold for the next two days because AT&T says I still have an installment plan on one of my phones even though it’s been paid off for two years and I haven’t switched plans in that long. Fuckin assholes Oh and it’s Verizon wireless I’ll be getting not FIOS. The place I live in is so old and crap that I don’t think anything but Comcast actually has a wire coming near here
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namlosh posted:Thanks for the replies re:Verizon everybody. The switch is on hold for the next two days because AT&T says I still have an installment plan on one of my phones even though it’s been paid off for two years and I haven’t switched plans in that long. Fuckin assholes
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