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Hello, wireheads. I currently have Cat 5e run to most places in the house that I want it, with 3 UniFi in-wall APs for wifi (5) coverage. The APs are PoE off a UniFi switch, and I have an EdgeRouter that does PPPoE passthrough through the ISP’s router/AP. I use the switch ports on a couple of the in-wall APs to connect our desktops and a couple of consoles. Everything is gigabit. In the wiring closet (which is sadly not the right size for rack-mountable stuff) is the home server, which is used for backups but not streaming media currently. In the office, I have a small LAN of my desktop, a Mac Mini, a RPi, and either my Steam Deck or laptop depending on what I’m fiddling with, all connected into a 2.5GbE switch. For no especially urgent reason, I’d like to upgrade my wired network to be 5GbE+, which basically means 10GbE because nobody ships 5GbE stuff it seems. I’d also like to upgrade to Wifi 7 to let newer devices take advantage of their fancier Wifi chips. I think I can get away with leaving the Cat 5e in place for 10GbE since the runs are pretty short, but otherwise I’ll pull Cat 6a. I’m not sure what to do for APs, since finding in-wall ones that have 10GbE ports on them seems unlikely, even once Wifi 7 is out. I’d really like to keep using PoE even if I have to deploy separate APs in the ceilings or whatever. Obviously (?) for Wifi 7 I’d need beyond-gigabit backhaul on the APs to make use of the full speed. I can get up to 8GbE ISP service, but that doesn’t really make sense until I have a border device that can handle more than a gigabit. I’m not emotionally attached to any of this hardware, though the UniFi controller interface isn’t terrible and I have learned to live with the EdgeRouter admin. I do really like the in-wall APs, but the UBNT Wifi 6 ones are the size of a dinner plate, so I might be out of luck there. What are people using for 10GbE home networking at this point?
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2024 01:40 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 15:02 |
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I mean whatever I end up replacing will find a good home somewhere else, but yeah I’m not especially price sensitive and some of this gear was hand-me-downs from the really crazy home networking folks I used to work with.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2024 01:47 |
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H110Hawk posted:Unless you have a whole group of people over streaming on their laptops/phones you're just not going to feel the improvement. I realize this is an academic concern because the prompt is "I want to spend a few grand on my hobby of absurdist home networking" and who am I to comment driving an out of warranty German car I cannot do my own work on a few hundred miles a year. Fair enough. The use case I have in mind is both my wife and me installing games on our Decks at the same time, and I’ll freely admit that I’m stretching to get there. I can wait for the hardware to evolve, since there’s no incipient crisis. It’s too bad that 5GbE didn’t get more support, since that would be closer to reasonable for my use case, but it seems like there isn’t a lot between 1GbE and 10GbE when it comes to switches and APs.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2024 18:55 |
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Azhais posted:Mikrotik has The Dude to manage all your devices. Not quite as integrated but it's an option That is quite the interface in those screenshots.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2024 02:26 |
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Yeah but for home networking I don’t really expect direct support beyond reset and maybe firmware update access.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2024 23:18 |
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You can disable the cloud login and auth sync, no?
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2024 00:13 |
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Arson Daily posted:this may be for a different thread but is there a VPN that doesnt slow the poo poo out of your WAN? tailscale
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 05:25 |
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it might also be that your old router was doing PPPOE, and you need to set that up
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2024 18:31 |
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NetworkManager is probably what’s underneath, and you can drive that from a CLJ or TUI on a server, if that helps.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2024 00:20 |
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Shumagorath posted:Gonna go ahead and admit I don't know what either of those are Might have helped if I’d spelled “CLI” correctly, apologies!
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2024 02:36 |
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Shugojin posted:Definitely just to tick a box if people are blindly searching for a feature of 2.5Gb WAN Yeah I might have been caught by that, sucky.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2024 19:17 |
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Agrikk posted:42U home network that’s too much, pic please
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2024 12:32 |
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rumpus
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# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 03:42 |
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What is the Bluetooth used for in the AP22? Management from an app?
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2024 22:39 |
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After all the UniFi poo poo I’m loath to go the cloud-admin way, but they otherwise look pretty good for the price…
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2024 23:08 |
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I just run Tailscale on the different devices/VMs I want as end-points, because then I don’t have to worry about addressing overlap when I’m on some hotel network that uses the same RFC1918 choice I do. Also lets me share individual services/devices with people instead of having to let my kid’s friend onto the whole network so they can join the Minecraft server.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2024 18:51 |
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Cygni posted:But they explicitly do collect MAC addresses, IPs, network data, hostnames, headers, wifi mapping vs other networks etc. Wait, what headers do they collect? Do you mean IP packet headers or HTTP headers?
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2024 21:01 |
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H110Hawk posted:They're in the section about access an eero "Site" so in theory it's just their websites, where you collect headers to process data. These laws are so ham fisted they make lawyers write "yes we use the normal browser stuff to give you a website" but it also gives companies huge umbrellas to hide under if they don't extremely narrowly scope things in their policies. Yeah I don’t see how that Site language would let them do anything except maybe request headers when using the admin UI, but even then that would require that they were considered the operator of that device and I don’t think they want that…
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2024 21:07 |
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wolrah posted:Others might be able to yell back loud enough for you to hear as well, but small children might not be audible. I think this is a perfectly serviceable analogy, but as a parent lol at the idea of not being able to hear a small child who wants to be heard.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2024 01:45 |
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I have a number of devices that will do 10GbE but not SFP, but I guess there are converters…
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2024 14:45 |
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Wibla posted:10gbe SFP+ cards can be had for $30 on eBay. I do not recommend using 10gbit copper SFP+. Sure, but I can’t put a card in a Mac mini or a laptop, whereas they can do 10GbE RJ-45 (untested)
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2024 18:33 |
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“life easier in the future”: run conduit if you can, and a run of pulling line alongside the cable if you can’t, so you can more easily get updated/additional cable along there later
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2024 15:18 |
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And to be clear, 6a can push 10 gigabit on a clean, well-terminated run.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2024 15:53 |
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Wibla posted:Tailscale takes most of the pain out of that.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2024 22:34 |
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Tailscale is basically a fancy control plane for Wireguard, meaning that you have a fully meshed network instead of hopping through a central server, as well as a pile of management and observability tools. You can share just a single service with someone else, or use Tailscale to ssh into a node based on your Tailscale-auth credentials, or configure subnet relays. posted while wearing my Tailscale hoodie, but I have no financial interest in it
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2024 01:30 |
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Aware posted:There's also netbird as a tailscale alternative that offers a self hosted version. Is that much different from using headscale as the control plane? I guess you’d have to run your own DERP relays too.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2024 14:16 |
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ryanrs posted:I'm not sure how good the wireless hardware is (haven't tested it myself). But I kinda don't care for my application. It's providing 2.4 GHz spot coverage for some motion sensors in a garage. Not video, just a binary sensor. I can’t believe that I might be buying more little computers. You utter jerk.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2024 16:54 |
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oh good, they aren’t cheap from Canada
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2024 16:55 |
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yeah, I like the UniFi in-wall APs because they’re POE, have 3 gigabit ports (one with POE itself!) and hide in the wall plate. They are not $20 though, that’s for sure.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 01:11 |
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Shumagorath posted:Please let me know if this is more of a layer 1/2 thread than higher up. I've made progress on my Network Manager based gateway / firewall, but I can't figure out how to make the VPN fail closed since nmcli treats Wireguard as different from all other VPN types. Am I stuck using OpenVPN or something older so I can designate a secondary object? I tried not having a default route through the main WAN and making routes that only populated when the VPN was up, but that must have been wrong as the connectivity didn't survive a reboot. Just use Tailscale, OP. In the very unlikely case that it doesn’t work, it’ll be because of one of the reasons listed in the detailed, thorough FAQ that explains the cause and the solution.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2024 03:37 |
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Shumagorath posted:Will Tailscale connect me to a commercial VPN provider like Nord/Proton/etc? I don’t own the far side of the connection. It’ll use Mullvad exit nodes via the dashboard config, but I think that’s it right now.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2024 04:10 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 15:02 |
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yeah symmetric is great but makes me really feel like I should back up stuff more aggressively to take advantage of it slowly, slowly I’m collecting the parts to get my home network to 5Gbit, and then I will get to stare for a long time at the 8Gbit offering from my ISP, hovering over the button
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 01:32 |