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I got a 3-pack of tp-link decos a couple of years ago because I was too lazy to do proper wiring here, but now I am regretting it, looking at 0.9mm single fibre and bidi optics in a couple of mikrotik switches now Might redo the networking at my folks too, as what they have is sorely outdated. Pfsense appliance, Aruba 8 port PoE switch and 2-3 access points will do the trick there.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2022 22:33 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 04:39 |
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Everything has been hosed since the pandemic kicked off, and you have a specific set of requirements that is pretty hard to fill without throwing money at the problem. Lots and lots of switches have 4 SFP+ and PoE, but the moment you want more than 4 SFP+ ports and PoE, it gets tricky. Also 10Gbase-T SFP's are power hogs, you want to avoid those at all costs. I'd consider combining a Mikrotik CRS309-1G-8S+IN with some suitable PoE switch with 10G uplink and use a DAC cable between them.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2022 11:08 |
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Raluek posted:i guess the answer is that i should wait a few more years for prince charming to come along Comedy option, if you can use mikrotik passive PoE: The CRS309 I mentioned, along with an RB260GSP and a 1gbit DAC between them. That gets you some PoE ports on copper, for reasonably cheap Management is annoying enough, but it's mostly a one-time pain to get the basics setup.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2022 12:50 |
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Eletriarnation posted:OpenWRT also works on the old 802.11n models which current versions of the UniFi controller aren't even willing to adopt anymore. You're pretty limited in what you can do with a single-core 400Mhz processor, a 10/100 port, and 8MB flash/64MB RAM, but the UAP-LR only uses about 3W from what I've seen so it's perfect if you just need a 2.4GHz network for some IoT stuff. No poo poo? I need to look into this. I have one of those in the basement
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 11:43 |
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A really cheap VPS and tailscale or something might do the trick.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2022 06:56 |
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Rugged preterminated duplex single mode fiber with a pull end should fit through a 2" conduit.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2022 12:12 |
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Internet Savant posted:Since it isn't clear from your description, my only suggestion is to consider outlets in every room regardless of how much you plan to use the room in the near future. When we did our house, we ran coax and cat 6 to every room (coax for antenna hook ups). Some rooms got two outlets. The cabling is cheap, it's the people time that gets you, and the cost of dropping lines in every room isn't necessarily that much more than a limited set of rooms. This is good advice. As for fibre, I would go with SM, but I'm professionally challenged in this area (I maintain a large metro-area network and we have banned MM fibre in our entire network for maintenance reasons). fs.com is your friend for cheap optics.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2022 07:01 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Interesting - when I maintained a campus-area network, what'd most often break would be the Lucent connectors. Our issues are more with standardization - by not explicitly banning MM fibre, we had lovely subcontractors installing it where they should have used SM fibre and it led to massive problems for a while. On connectors, our oldest (mid-late 90s) fibre panels have SC, the newer ones have FC, and we standardized on LC a few years ago. They've mostly been problem-free, but we don't re-patch all that often, and we have strict standards for cleaning and inspection, as well as good training for our techs.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2022 16:52 |
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I would have bought two mellanox connect-x 2 10gbe SFP+ cards (€30 each on ebay) and a DAC cable from fs, total price would probably be less than €100 Be aware that you will probably have to enable jumbo frames to get full throughput.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 12:28 |
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SFP+ ports are not weird. They're the industry standard for 10Gbe networking This is the same type of card I use: https://www.ebay.com/itm/125537015114 - They work just fine in windows 10 and linux. You can find DAC here: https://www.fs.com/c/10g-dac-1114
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 13:03 |
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Ihmemies posted:I was looking at products inside EU. Products from china take 1-2 months to arrive, are most likely counterfeit, I have to pay duties, VAT and a "chinese small items handling fee", I have to manually get them through customs etc. In the end it's so noth worth it to order anything at all from china. I wasn't aware that Germany was even more backwards than Norway on these things, the only thing we pay here on top of shipping is VAT, and ebay collects it for me. Make sure that AOC-STG-i2T card has plenty of airflow.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 13:28 |
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Ihmemies posted:Also the sfp+ thing doesn't seem to be very good. SFP+ is mostly wasted on home users that don't run fibre across a property or similar, the main value is that you can find very cheap second-hand cards that work very well. Of course that means you have to be willing to play the lottery*. And you clearly aren't. That's your choice to make. *It's not much of a lottery, you have to really work at getting poo poo cards on eBay, even from China. Ihmemies posted:Cables are many more times expensive than regular cat cable. Also cables longer than 7m don't work, while you can do 100m runs with cat cable. The connectors have weird pull tabs etc. Nothing really looks good with that setup. DAC cables (and their sibling, the AOC cable) are mainly used for short runs inside racks or in the same room. For going further, you use a very cheap (€23) multi mode fibre transceiver, that lets you go 300 meters, or a single mode fibre transceiver, that lets you do up to 100 kilometers (depending on the transceiver you buy, 10km ones cost €33, 100km costs €677). Try doing that with cat6. The pull tabs for DAC/AOC cables are made that way to make them easy to get out of an SFP+ slot in a switch/NIC, they're not designed to please your sense of aesthetics. I prefer them that way, they're easier to deal with than cat cables Also a PSA, you need properly terminated Cat6a cable to go 100m with 10gbase-t, if you have regular Cat6, it's down to 45-55 meters, and if you terminated them yourself, well... good luck. Wibla fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Oct 14, 2022 |
# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 15:00 |
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Inept posted:If the computer and server are in the same room, you could connect them via Thunderbolt/USB4 and have even more speed I was going to mention 25gbe cards, but he updated his post with the 10gbase-t stuff before I got around to it
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 15:05 |
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Ihmemies posted:Welp. Well. The server without network card was 1700€, so I guess it doesn't hurt too much to lose a bit extra to the 10Gbe cards. I'm curious now, what did you buy?
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 20:12 |
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Ihmemies posted:Mobo: Supermicro X10 SRi-F 2011 If there's any consolation, I paid about €1300 for this in april/may: Asus X99 ROG Strix E5-2670 v3 (12core 2.6GHz) 128GB ECC DDR4 RAM (4x32GB) Fractal Design R6 Corsair TX750W Corsair MP600 1TB NVMe SSD Quadro P400 GPU intel 10GbE SFP+ NIC Adding 9x8TB and an LSI SAS controller puts it at 150W idle after I enabled power saving stuff in BIOS. It's way overkill for what I do Ihmemies posted:The only problem so far is the power usage, which is terrible And lack of decent skills to use server software... How many watts does it use idle?
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 22:00 |
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priznat posted:The node 804 box tape looks sus I am wondering if amazon sent me something previously opened Might want to check that out ASAP
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2022 18:56 |
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Just out of curiosity, what's the cap?
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2022 09:27 |
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I would slow down a bit and spend a bit more time researching that network upgrade. Don't fall into the sunk cost trap just because you already have some Unifi equipment.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2022 16:56 |
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Iperf?
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2022 13:08 |
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Tailscale?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2022 22:29 |
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Pfsense/opnsense for firewall/routing. WiFi to taste, pick one that supports vlans.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2023 06:25 |
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Their WiFi stuff is OK, I would steer clear of the rest.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2023 15:32 |
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Kin posted:That seems like a lot to me but maybe its not? I count 12 devices with DHCP leases in my one bedroom apartment, so I dunno... YMMV?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2023 08:51 |
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I have 350mbit symmetric and it's fine, I guess? no CGNAT, no bullshit transfer caps, it just works.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2023 15:53 |
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Paying for proper backups of your NAS is not free either. And you'll want to back that poo poo up.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2023 12:00 |
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MarcusSA posted:I’m having this weird issue with my new network and I’m not sure how to trouble shoot it. What router do you have? This sounds a lot like connection states being dropped by the router after a timeout has been reached. Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/jqmkiq/wifi_calling_fyi/
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2023 12:02 |
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I use mikrotik at home, it does the job but the vlan interface is annoying to say the least.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2023 21:21 |
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Can they be fanmodded?
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2023 21:37 |
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Nice! I've considered getting an Extreme 5320 for home use, but those are hardly free
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2023 21:44 |
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Twerk from Home posted:Come to the Intel thread if you want to see griping at length about why you want a Realtek NIC. Oh, how things have changed
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 23:59 |
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Evis posted:Tailscale is quite nice They changed their pricing model recently too, basically don't have to think about it for personal use.
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# ¿ May 2, 2023 05:22 |
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VostokProgram posted:Is there any reason not to make my home network 10.0.0.0/8? Yes. Have a /24 for your wired, mostly trusted stuff. Another /24 for WiFi poo poo that you control, and a /24 for untrusted poo poo like iot and guest devices.
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# ¿ May 12, 2023 08:22 |
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SonicWALL and lower-end Fortigate gear can eat poo poo.
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# ¿ May 25, 2023 16:49 |
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Cold spare is the real answer here, yeah.
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# ¿ May 26, 2023 09:04 |
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With unifi you want to sit out new releases until other people have beta-tested it first.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 21:12 |
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Sounds like you need a Mikrotik! https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in#fndtn-specifications
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2023 16:05 |
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For 200 units I would have gone with 25gbit service to the building, but I don't like overselling bandwidth
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2023 08:34 |
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I run powerline between floors, through modern GFCI breakers - the link tops out at around 70 megabits.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2023 13:41 |
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Yeah, that'll work fine.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2023 13:22 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 04:39 |
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One of the unifi AP's with a directional (45 or 90 degree) antennas would probably do the trick at the distances involved here... at least worth a try. You can also do direct bury-fibre cables and use mikrotik switches to connect it all up. Add AP's to taste.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2023 18:47 |