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Can someone help me with choosing which ADSL2+ modem/router to buy? I'm with Orange who gave me a Netgear N150 (DGN1000) but I'm having real trouble getting it to work properly, especially on wireless. I figure I'd rather just plump for a new router and stick Tomato on it, but there's such a huge range and so much weird networking terminology out there it makes my head explode. I'll just list random facts that I think would be relevant, I guess:
Does anyone have any decent suggestions? I'm willing to pay more if it means I'll get less headaches from the router randomly deciding to stop transferring data, or having certain programs deciding not to connect. Jimlad fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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Oct 30, 2011 17:58
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Devian666 posted:For example the 3500L runs fine and is in the $75USD category which is well within your budget. Does that come in an ADSL modem variety? I'm totally confused since are those all just routers or cable modems or ADSL modems or what? If I just get a router, does that mean I need to get a modem as well?
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Oct 30, 2011 20:03
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fagalicious posted:you need a separate modem. Those all in one things are pieces of poo poo and crash if you even think of doing more than check your email. Ahah, so uhm... is there anything to look out for from an ADSL modem, or are they all basically the same? I assume I can get one fairly cheap. Is it especially difficult getting a modem to work with a separate router? I have no idea how these things work. Would it be possible to use my existing modem/router as just a modem - and if I did, would I be any better off? Jimlad fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 30, 2011 |
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Oct 30, 2011 20:55
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Great, thanks guys. I'll go out and get a router and use my existing one as a pure modem. Then hopefully everything will magically work! Fingers crossed...
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Oct 30, 2011 23:46
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My router arrived! I ended up going with an Asus RT-N16 since that one had the bigger numbers in the specs. I flashed Tomato USB on it and everything seems to be working just about. I have it hooked up to my Netgear DGN1000 modem/router and access to the internet and wifi and all that seem ok. So far I'm just running on "default" settings, so it would be nice if someone could offer some advice on how my setup is supposed to be configured. Am I supposed to disable NAT and DHCP on the modem and have the Asus router handle everything? I'm under the impression I'm supposed to make my Netgear act as a "pure modem" somehow and have the router do everything else, but I'm not quite sure how I should go about doing that. Anyone have any ideas?
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Nov 2, 2011 23:18
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For some reason when I turn NAT off on my modem, I can no longer connect to anything on the internet. I can access the modem itself though. Shouldn't it just work, or is there some obvious setting I'm missing?
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Nov 2, 2011 23:57
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CuddleChunks posted:How does your modem connect to the network? Have you duplicated those types of settings in your PC? Why are you turning off NAT are you trying to set this modem up as a bridge? My modem is a crappy Netgear modem/router that I want to use only as an ADSL modem. It connects to my nice new Asus router's WAN port, which connects all the other devices on my LAN. I don't know what duplicate settings I'm supposed to set up on my PC? I'm turning off NAT on the modem because Devian666 suggested that I should. I know that something might be up with the modem because I have a game that connects fine on my phone's wireless hotspot but won't connect through the modem, so I'm hoping that if I avoid using the modem as much as possible, there's a better chance things will work more reliably. I only got the router yesterday, but wireless performance on all my connected devices has improved by miles, and I'm not noticing any more issues with needing to reboot the router at random. At this point I want to make sure I have all the settings as they "should" be so that everything just works without me having to worry about it.
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Nov 3, 2011 19:31
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fagalicious posted:what is your ISP and what is the modem model? Orange, using a Netgear N150 (DGN1000). My router is an Asus RT-N16 which I've flashed with Tomato USB. Ragingsheep posted:Put your modem into bridge mode and use your router to do PPPoE. I just put together a similar setup last night. I tried doing this; turns out the Netgear has a secret "put into modem mode" option, which I enabled. I assume it's normal that I can no longer access the modem's settings through the router? Now I can't seem to access the internet though, so I assume there are some settings on my Asus that I need to change to get it to work? Is there a simple way of confirming whether the modem is actually working as intended? CuddleChunks posted:Hit up google with "set netgear <your model number> bridge mode" and see if someone has written a walkthrough. You'll need to know your connection type - pppoe, pppoa, dhcp, or static ip's - so that you can program your Asus router once you have the netgear in bridge mode. I'm hoping putting the Netgear in Modem mode counts as "bridge mode". I tried setting up my Asus router but Orange says I need to use PPPoA, and there don't look to be any settings for that in Tomato. Does this mean it's impossible to use PPPoA on the router and I'm basically stuffed?
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Nov 4, 2011 02:27
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fagalicious posted:try pppoe and see if it works I set the Netgear back to modem/router mode and connected my computer to it directly, and set it up with PPPoE. When I did that, I couldn't connect to anything on the internet. I then put it back to PPPoA and it connected just fine. So I guess that means PPPoA only.
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Nov 4, 2011 02:55
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fagalicious posted:You want to put it on modem only mode, connect it to the tomato router from the modem's lan port to the wan port on the router, and set pppoe on the tomato router. ok, I gave that a go. The modem said it was connected, Tomato on the router said it was connected, but nothing worked; I couldn't access anything on the internet and couldn't get to the modem's setup page without wiring to it directly.
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Nov 4, 2011 03:55
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Triikan posted:Did you power cycle both the modem and the router afterwards? Any time you connect a new device directly to a modem you have to do a power cycle on both devices. I'm pretty sure I did, but I tried again tonight with a 30 second wait just to be sure. Again, Tomato says it has an IP address and it's connected, but still I can't connect to anything on the internet. Is there anything I can try to diagnose the problem? I wonder if updating the modem's firmware is a decent last resort? I know it has custom firmware so it won't upgrade with any of the built-in methods, but I know it can be done. I'm just wondering if it's advisable since I have no idea what Orange have modified, and I have no guarantees the new firmware will work.
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Nov 4, 2011 23:42
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CuddleChunks posted:What IP address does your tomato router get? What is the LAN IP address of that same router? When I set the Netgear to "modem mode", this is what the Asus Tomato page says: Connection Type PPPoE IP Address 95.149.105.71 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 217.32.99.122 The Asus/Tomato router is set up on 192.168.1.1. The IP address above is in a similar format to what the Netgear establishes when I can connect to the internet in modem+router mode. Jimlad fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Nov 5, 2011 |
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Nov 5, 2011 03:12
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fagalicious posted:Maybe its the dns? Try going to http://74.125.226.148 after it gets an ip. Doesn't seem to work. I also tried pinging that address from the Tomato "Tools" section, and got no response. I tried this both before and after trying out the following suggestion. CuddleChunks posted:Cool, you're getting a pppoe connection. ok, just to be sure, here are the settings I put the modem + router on: Asus router: WAN Connection Type PPPoE IP Address 95.149.106.54 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 217.32.99.122 LAN Router IP Address 192.168.3.1 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 DHCP 192.168.3.100 - 192.168.3.149 Netgear modem: LAN TCP/IP Setup IP Address 192.168.0.1 IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Doesn't make a difference as far as I can tell. Router shows as connected, modem says it's connected, but I can't access anything online. I've also tried resetting the Tomato settings to defaults and configuring only the necessities but again, no difference.
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Nov 5, 2011 13:28
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CuddleChunks posted:It's strange that the pppoe connection from your Asus goes through the Netgear and gets an IP address but you aren't pulling down data. That's seriously weird. ok, well I tried the latter suggestion first; when I went to change the setting on the Netgear for "Enable PPPoE Relay", it told me that I needed to set my encapsulation setting to PPPoE (it's PPPoA normally, and the ISP specified that it should be PPPoA). When I changed it to PPPoE, it said it had connected and gave an IP address, but I was unable to connect to anything on the internet - basically the same behaviour as when I tried to use PPPoE on the Asus router. So, it seems likely to me that this is the problem; I need to be able to access PPPoA on my Asus router. Is this possible, and is it dependent on the hardware or the firmware? I don't think Tomato allows PPPoA (at least I can't see any options for it), but can I get it to work through DD-WRT or similar?
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Nov 7, 2011 20:18
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CuddleChunks posted:Sorry, you're out of luck. The PPP is being routed over an ATM interface provided by the DSL circuit. DD-WRT won't know how to talk to that, same with Tomato. You've done everything you can, go setup the netgear as a regular router, plug yours in behind it and accept double-nat as a fact of life with that setup. Bummer. I got it working! Figures, the crappy Netgear modem was REALLY crappy and was the cause of all my troubles. I got a Linksys and everything just works. Yays. Thanks for your help, everyone.
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Nov 10, 2011 20:14
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CuddleChunks posted:Hooray! I'm glad you got things running finally! Let that be a lesson to all: the bundled modem/router you get from your ISP goes in the bin, not in your network. Especially the Netgear N150 (DGN1000) from Orange.
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Nov 10, 2011 22:25
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