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Loving this so far, and I can't wait for more of these tales. Love the writing style and your drawings are just perfect. Also voting for chronological order. I'd like to see read the horror unfolding in the same order that you experienced it.
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mad carl posted:More on the American lolitas later. As I posted in the Fandom Secrets thread, I'm a member of the lolita community and I'll attest that there are plenty of crazies there too. My local community is thankfully lacking in drama and crazy for the most part, but that's kind of uncommon. I'd love to hear your experiences with this, I'm sure it ain't pretty due to you posting about it here.
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Twiggy Johnson posted:At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest, is there an explanation for this prevailing fascination with gays? I've never met a woman that thought male/male sex was sexually appealing (as opposed to men and lesbians Even if you haven't met one, straight women enjoying male/male porn is becoming a lot more prevalent. I'd say it's a combination of that, and the nonthreatening nature of it. Women may view gay porn as "safe" because the men are attracted to each other instead of the women, meaning they're safe from physical or emotional harm that might come from a relationship with a man.
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Twiggy Johnson posted:Sure, but a lot of the slash fiction I've seen (why?) involves domination or rape, too. Yeah, but against a man, not a woman. Technically it's still safe for the woman reading it.
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mad carl posted:It's really an interesting group of people to me. If you have any particular experiences you might like to relate, I would likewise enjoy that. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, now that I think about it) I haven't encountered too many crazy lolitas in real life. Most of my stories come from internet drama, which is usually where all the drama goes down. I do remember one person from Livejournal, who happened to be about 40 years old and loved Twilight, who insisted that all pearls on brand-name lolita dresses were cheap and bad (uh, well, no) and even a "$10 string of pearls from Wal-mart" would be better. And also that teddy bears and prints with teddy bears are dangerous because they would encourage children to approach real bears. 
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Casca posted:As for the lolita there are several types of it, but in general it means dressing up like a little girl with loads of lace and frills, then walking around in public looking like a massive pastel cupcake so everyone can stare at you. Gothic lolita means dressing up like a little girl who is about to attend a funeral. At first I sort of wanted to correct you about this, but I realize we look pretty ridiculous to most people no matter what. Some styles look a tad bit less ridiculous than others, but in general it's a bit extravagant. The problem is, yes, many lolitas get extremely offended when anyone implies they look sort of out of the ordinary. You kind of have to anticipate that you are dressed very fancy and different and people are going to notice and ask. I understand getting insulted if someone mocks you outright, though it's best to expect it and take it in stride if you're going to get into this hobby. And God help you if you call lolitas ageplayers.  Out of context that sentence looks like an oxymoron, but they are separate things.I've considered before making an A/T but I'm not sure if there would be enough interest. Plus I don't have too many interesting crazy-people stories from real life.
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Casca posted:(The other reason is that lolitas like to carry dolls around as part of their infantilization fetish they have going on, but that's a whole nother discussion.) Not sure how I missed this but this is generally definitely not a thing. There are lolitas who are infantalists or ageplayers but that isn't why most lolitas are into it.
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I'd love to discuss these things more with people, but I feel like this lolita discussion is turning into a bit of a derail. I don't want to distract from the soulbonding/delusion stories too much. It might be best to make an A/T. I'll try to get an OP put together in the next few days and I'll post the link here when it's made.
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ashgromnies posted:So they just dress up that way for attention? There's no organic growth or underlying shared cultural capital that lead to this subculture? If you ask most lolitas they'll say they wear it because they like the way it looks, which would also be my answer. Some do it for attention, certainly, but the most of the fun lies in composing outfits and feelin' purty. And as said above, I'll hopefully have a separate A/T for this in the next few days so any questions can be asked there.
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hallo spacedog posted:I feel like this is one of those situations where denying certain things about the origins of lolita fashion or trying to just make it about cutesy dresses or whatever is sort of unfortunate. Oh, I wasn't denying the origins about it. Actually I'm glad you posted this story because it's very interesting, and I kind of wish I'd had the wherewithal to do it myself. I was more talking about where the fashion is now just in America. Do you mind if I quote you at any point? You put it far better than I ever could.
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For those wondering about a lolita A/T thread, I'm working on the OP as we speak, trying to cover all my bases as to explaining the origins, cattiness, etc and counterarguments to common misconceptions. It should probably be posted sometime later tonight or tomorrow, and either way I will definitely link to it. Now we should probably stow most of this discussion until it's posted and talk more about holy gently caress, Dabbo, how did you deal with all that? I can imagine it was hard enough having a brother who wrote/drew odd, violent sexual fantasies about you and other people he knew and murdering animals, but I don't think I could cope with my mother defending him at every turn and come out sane.
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What a coincidence, I just started a new thread too: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3453361 So all lolita-related discussion should go there. Now to gently caress off and go read Dabbo's thread. Can't wait for the next Denise or Henriette story!
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 Saddest Rhino, you truly are the Best Rhino. I'm sorry to see the end of the Henriette saga, but I'm definitely glad to have read it. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences.
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Dec 26, 2011 08:00
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She may have meant a male succubus, which I believe would be called an "incubus". I find it amusing that most self-identified furries tend to ignore or at least remain ignorant about most habits of the animals they consider their fursonas, while here we are reading about a girl supposedly raised to excrete like an animal. Though, I think most animals have enough sense not to relieve themselves right where they sit.
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And here I was, thinking it might be fun to buy one of the cheaper-end BJDs, maybe get into making clothes and stuff. If these are the people I'm going to encounter in that subculture, I'm not so sure anymore. 
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I can see how obscure/silly hobbies attract crazy folk (and have a little experience with it, just see my A/T on lolita fashion). Seems like if I just avoid going to meets and talking with folks that are obsessed on certain levels, I'd probably be okay. Right?  Sometimes I worry that all my weird hobbies are going to make me crazy, or having them means I was crazy all along. 
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