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MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
This seems like it could potentially be quite an important development.

I'm moderately scared for Vriska/Meenah right now.

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MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Cleretic posted:

Okay, we're safe. Vriska isn't an ugly whore.

I think it represents the location of Callie, personally. Either the real one or alt-universe acsended Callie. In the centre of a massive two-universes-big deadly fireball seems like a good hiding space. Which kinda makes you question exactly how big that circle IS, since it dwarfs the Green Sun.

But mostly I'm hoping this happens.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Oh. Well. THAT happened!

This is the latest in a long, long saga of Hussie trolling the Vriska thread on the MSPA Forums. A lot of them are starting to lose hope that there'll be a payoff at the end of it. Myself, included.

e; Re: Mind control, I thought it didn't work as well on the psychically gifted? Was that not the reason given for not being able to control Aradia (as well as sort-of explaining not controlling Sollux). Mituna and the other Megido haven't shown any psychic powers, have they?

Does this cast the blue blood in this picture from Killed by 8r8k Spider's album art into a whole new light? (Yes, I still like that theory...)

MarquiseMindfang fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Sep 3, 2013

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Hahaha, oh man, Fuchsia Ruler has been my ringtone since the first Meenah walkaround. That's amazing.

I'm also of the opinion that this is not going to end well for anyone involved. Vriska is going to be world-shatteringly pissed. She's been incredibly angry lately, at Tavros, and John, and Hussie, and now Aranea's going to send her off the deep end again.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
So Aranea wants to be the immortal god-empress of creation.

Well, it's nice to have goals.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
I don't know why people think Vriska's character arc ever came to a satisfying conclusion, at any point. Everything has been building up to her going on a rage overload and doing something catastrophic. Her initial fall, then long absence followed by her observation about being deliberately kept out of the narrative, then being double-crossed by Tavros, John, Hussie and Aranea in rapid succession, as well as her own personal motivations to prove herself and Be The Big drat (Anti-)Hero mean she's nowhere near out of this story yet. Vriska is a terrible person who does terrible things, but for very good reasons. She has no reason to change because that's exactly who she is and exactly who the story needs her to be. None of the other characters remaining have the capacity to commit atrocities to stop bigger atrocities. Can you imagine John or Dave or Jake doing that? Vriska is Hard Decisions: The Character and that's why she'll always be among my favourites.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Stayton posted:

Fun thought: It's been speculated that HIC's mind control over Jade is accomplished by putting the human part of her mind to sleep, and then communing with the animal part. It may be possible that Hussie is once again pulling a continuity reach around on us. If part of Jade's mind has been asleep since the trap was sprung this meeting between her and Calliope might actually be a flash back. In which case everything is going just as they planned, and this is all a big ploy to get the ring to Calliope in some strange way.

Or Jade's eyes will go white mid-conversation, and Callie stammers out an awkward "Uhm Jade, I think you just died."

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Aranea still dodged the swipe at her arm. Dodging means it's dangerous. Especially since she just let the other two strikes hit her. She has something to lose, and she's definitely planning something.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Blackheart posted:

The clown's not being himself right now, though. Not that I feel bad for him, gently caress that guy. (he's gonna be the hero in the end and I will feel bad for not being down with the clown)

Terezi needs to JUST1C3 DUNK him right into that handy-dandy pool of lava that's right next to her. :colbert: Then she might be slightly redeemed in my eyes for killing Vriska.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Man, I can't even conceive of a world where Homestuck is finished. It's seemed like a constant for so long. This is gonna be weird as hell.

oh well i'll always have my tangentally homestuck related tattoo to remind me

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
The only suggestions I ever submitted were when naming trolls, and they were always things like "Rocket Papaya" or "Speshl Friend". :colbert: Except for making up weird Harry Potter pun names for Eridan.

MarquiseMindfang fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Oct 19, 2013

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
I don't think Vriska will be a student.

But I can hope that Mindfang will be a teacher. The best teacher. No detentions, just mauls you into losing an arm and an eye.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Titty Hero posted:

Oh man, it comes out next month? I can not WAIT to date some VIDEO GAMES and HOMESTUCKS.

Soon, Galaga-sama... soon. :swoon:

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Shipping Cost: $95.31

gently caress off. It can't possibly be that much for a goddamn plushie.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Bobulus posted:

The important part of the kickstarter was the official ship that Hussie assigned you to.

Aranea / Gamzee, for the record. D:

Dirk / Caliborn.

I really wasn't sure what to think at the time but I've come to accept it.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

paradoxGentleman posted:

Oh, the pirate porn intermission. I remember thinking "Did Vriska base her whole life on old-timey smut?"

Yes.

And it was glorious.

I may be biased.

For real though, even though Vriska is my favourite character ever, I kind of wish the trolls had never happened. Like most things, Homestuck was better when it was smaller and less well-known. I know it sounds like a horrible insufferable hipster thing to say, but fans really do ruin everything. I liked the era of "Dad is Problem Sleuth" and "Wayward Vagabond is Spades Slick and also is an Imp" and then the trolls happened and suddenly everything was typing quirks and speculation on whether or not trolls have tentacle crotches.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
The pre-scratch trolls were absolutely worth it just for Kankri, who is the most perfect shot at the group of people most deserving of having shots taken at them.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Triskelli posted:

Tumblr spotted.

But seriously, I find it more far fetched but there's some thematic evidence sure. Bladekindeyewear is just a little too obsessed with being right, and writing his huge Cherub writeup.

Vriska absorbing the Green Sun has been a popular theory since long before BKE typed a single character about it. It originated with the album art for Killed By 8r8k Spider, which depicts Vriska in front of the Green Sun with a bloodied 8-ball and her hero of light symbol coloured green. Every other piece of album art from that album has been featured in the comic as an actual panel. Every single one, except that one.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Carrasco posted:

So...how did he cope with Rose and Kanaya's date night? Were there tears, or did he just complain that Hussie wasn't doing things right?

Most likely more mental gymnastics to work it so that it somehow "proves" his theories are still on track.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

ProfessorCirno posted:

Roxy, Meenah, the original four kids, Kanaya.

Terezi was up there but she got ham fisted and dumb in the last chapter.

Karkat hovers around there but only accidentally.

Add Vriska and Mindfang in and you're pretty much spot on.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Agreeing with Glitch Prince being the best of the lot. Add me to the list of people who'd actually wear that. Ancestral and Character Select are okay as well, but yeah, more as posters.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

jetz0r posted:

KC green is not a good enough artist is to make awful, skill-less art.

You don't just flip the rules of good art, because that shows your knowledge of them by subverting them. Awful art must be created without acknowledging the existence of better art techniques.

There was a thread on the MSPA Forums that showed this premise off perfectly. It was called "Dear Andrew 2" and featured Hussie and Tauhid attempting to out-lovely each other. The images appear to be lost to time but Hussie's words on How To Suck persist.

These three images are all I have from that thread.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
If we don't get an "Everyone's Dead, Dirk" Red Dwarf reference out of this when he gets back I will be sad. Maybe from Aranea.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Really, everyone dying just means that the Dreambubbles are the Place To Be, so now we're going to have a lot more Vriskatime, because the focus has shifted to where she is. She just got there early.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
So if JUST flashed up after Aranea died, does that mean that normal god tier revival works on people resurrected with the Ring? So if she hadn't pinged Just, she would've come back anyway without it?

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Will it be Vriskatime for page 8888, I wonder? (Probably not.)

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

WAR FOOT posted:

I've given up hope that Gamzee will ever be truly killed.

Gamzee is the (Breath of Fire 4) Yuna of Homestuck, and will completely dodge his massive amount of sorely owed karmic retribution for being a completely unrepentant cockhole for most of the story.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

net cafe scandal posted:

John is going to prevent Vriska from ever having died. Eat my poo poo, all.

I get the feeling this is the direction we're heading in but I also get the feeling Hussie is a huge cocktease and won't actually do it.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

SyntheticPolygon posted:

A Vriska revival would hardly be subtle. Also Terezi's already seen the outcome of Vriska surviving and I doubt it would improve things too much.

Terezi's already seen what she thought at the time was the result of Vriska surviving, but was actually the result of her flawed mindset blinding her into only seeing the two outcomes, she's admitted as much already. She painted herself into a corner. She's been denied her closure with Vriska for three years due to not seeing her in the bubbles, so she still considers it a weight on her mind, maybe even a mistake. All her language seems to talk about nudging the odds in their favour, and we literally just cut away to Vriska for a single update before talking about what to change in the Alpha.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

SyntheticPolygon posted:

True, but her doubt over Vriska's death was related to her doubt about her own powers, which she seems to have gotten over in order to deal with the situation. And her comment of "we make our own luck" is a call back to her saying "luck doesn't actually matter", which was her talking about how unlike Vriska she doesn't need luck to succeed.

I get that, but I thought it would be a good way of twisting it if "we make our own luck" was an oblique way of saying "we should recruit someone who can manufacture luck at will, and literally make our own luck". Like this whole thing started decaying into mass death pretty much the moment Jade's death stuck because of the Lucky 8r8k on the clock's judgement. Maybe a Serket needs to take out a Serket. It'd be a nice symbolic dovetail with Vriska giving up her fantasies of trying to become badass Mindfang, and redeeming herself by taking out someone making the same mistake she did -- trying to become badass Mindfang.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Honestly, if Terezi never kills Vriska and somehow just stalls her til they blast off for the Green Sun and then the new session, nothing much really changes in the greater plot, because until they all died in Game Over, the trolls didn't actually do much for those three years. Plus on the way through the bubbles Vriska can meet her deadself who did die to Terezi and receive her character upgrade that way I guess?

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Bobulus posted:

I'm going to be very surprised if the story is changed that far back, is all I have to say.

This is what I was trying to get at in my last post; it might be far back in terms of pages, but basically nothing (and certainly nothing plot important) happened for the trolls in between Vriska's death and the melee in Game Over starting. They rode a meteor for three years and chilled with some dead people, Vriska not being among them. Her being alive would equate to there being one more person on the meteor, and minor changes in some conversations as a result of her hanging around, and not much else, until Game Over happens. Dead Vriska did some poo poo but there's no reason that can't still have happened if her death is averted. Dreambubbles work weirdly.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
I am howling at laughter. John just rocketed up my favourite character chart.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Maybe it's not even a matter of stopping Vriska, just delaying her. If she doesn't show up right away, Jack will destroy the frog, then they can fight until PM gets there, at which point he'll either be killed be the two of them, or take off after the meteor. Everything that happens on the meteor trip can still happen (hell Terezi can still assume Vriska died fighting Jack), but Vriska will turn up in the middle of the events leading up to Game Over and be able to tip the scales... more than stealing the ring already tipped them from the sounds of storytime in Calliope's hideout.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Zoe posted:

I'm kind of annoyed Vriska will likely never get called to task for murdering Tavros though.

Everyone will agree that it was for the best, and he was a lame useless weenie in any case, and then balance can be restored to the universe.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Fat_Cow posted:

The explanation is that when Vriska gets retconned and forgets everything, everyone will feel bad for Meenah before she gets blown up, alone.

No joke, I think my heart just stopped.

No.

Hussie knew how much (some) people wanted Vriska alive again, so now he's giving them what they want but making it the most awful gut wrenching thing so they wish she was dead, instead.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
12/01 will forever be Vriska day. From now on, the Vriskatime never ends!

The wallet... Dave and Rose had it in Cascade, didn't they? So it's currently in the heart of the green sun.

Edit; I suppose the prior crap was all just to get Terezi to notice Gamzee's hosed up.

And the real question now is who gets the life ring?

(And I wonder if Vriska is going to meet her deadself while she's KO'd?)

MarquiseMindfang fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Jan 12, 2015

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Regy Rusty posted:

Wait but didn't the wallet end up on Alternia via Lil' Cal? Was that an earlier instance of it? Why has no one extensively documented the wallet's path on the internet for me to conveniently look up??

It's probably the one bloody thing the fanbase hasn't tracked through time, at this point.

Though I'm sure a timeline will show up in about half an hour.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Good point brought up elsewhere:

There's not going to be a Tavrisprite anymore, is there?

Might we end up with Equirosprite? And a spare sprite floating around, too. If Gamzee even gets to make them anymore.

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MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Fister Roboto posted:

On the other hand, Vriska is one of the few characters who would actually be likely to kill Jane.

If Jane's even dead? She doesn't remember anything about the "killing" blow, after all.

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