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I'd love to work on an art piece or may be a blog sometime based around the idea of progressives working against each other, called something like 'the pain of being progressive.' My latest inspiration are these two articles: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2107364,00.html http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/22/BA0R1NAEQI.DTL Essentially: Gleick should not have done what he did and he did more damage than it was worth. One of the articles even concedes the point that Heartland has been directly engaging in deceitful actions in the public sphere. I guess to simplify this would be to ask 'does two wrongs make a right?' But that is too simple. I have not one single problem with Gleick. The 'extra memo' is pretty odd but it is receiving far too much attention if it did not originate with him. He found out some info and did some more research, good for him, and directly exposed a coordinated disinformation campaign. The journalist holier than thou attitude in one of the articles really leaves me with the feeling that journalists are happy with their limp wristed reporting and taking it on the chin from their corporate money masters. This guy is awesome and deserves respect, not shunning.
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There have been a couple of tangents about the merits of growing one's own carrots which annoyed a lot of people.
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satan!!! posted:Cool thread! I don't have much to contribute other than that book is depressing (and interesting) as hell. quote:The developed world needs a smarter approach toward cleaner fuels. The United States has been showing the way. Hydraulic fracturing has produced an abundance of inexpensive natural gas, leading to a shift away from coal in electricity production. Because burning natural gas emits half the carbon dioxide of coal, this technology has helped the United States reduce carbon dioxide emissions to the lowest level since the mid-1990s, even as emissions rise globally. We need to export this technology and help other nations exploit it.
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Paper Mac posted:I'm not a leftist, nor am I predicting any apocalypse. The status quo is a profoundly unjust one which is demonstrably destroying the conditions of its own existence-
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVd-zAXACrU Collapse, if anyone is still interested.
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There are a variety of ways you can look at the back to the land idea. If everyone did it then yea, that would probably do more harm than good to our environment, but people are inspired by this idea by more than a simple argument like that. People often cite wanting a simpler life not filled with consumerism or having to work and make money for other people. If you look at things more through the lens of global capitalism and its effect on our planet you could try and make the argument that limiting your participation in that system helps. Some try and take that in the direction of the self sufficient off the grid lifestyle. As of right now I don't think there are any solid solutions for an individual given the tragedy of the commons.
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This stuff has been retreaded over and over but I will just leave these here for fun http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140211-global-warming-pause-trade-winds-pacific-science-climate/ http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/global-warming-pause-answer-blowin-ocean-n24921
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Feb 19, 2014 05:37
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How about this:quote:March 28, 2014, AUSTIN, TX – March winds brought a new wind power record to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) region Wednesday evening, March 26, when instantaneous output reached a record 10,296 megawatts (MW) at 8:48 p.m. The transition to renewable energy sources is possible.
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Apr 6, 2014 19:21
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In what way are people here retarded about meat consumption?
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Apr 18, 2014 06:09
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Mine is to pray
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Feb 13, 2015 15:35
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Hiro Protagonist posted:How likely is near-term human extinction at this point? Extremely unlikely. Lots of suffering, but hey that's no different than the last couple hundreds years am I right?
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markgreyam posted:Recommend me some books to read, please, on climate change specifically but I'm actually also curious as to books on climate dynamics and related topics. http://www.goodreads.com/genres/climate-change That is a good run down of a wide variety of books. You should be able to find something in there that appeals to you (ignore the quotes on the right), personally I am a fan of This Changes Everything, but you would probably want to read that after reading something like The Weather Makers or something like that but more recent.
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Someone doesn't give birth to Captain Planet. Captain Planet appears when the five Planeteers combine the 5 elements of Our Planet. So you are asking the wrong question. Captain Planet is only 'birthed' with the collective action of the 5 Planeteers, chosen by Gaia. We need the rings but I fear Gaia gave up on us a long time ago
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It is an interesting collection of news and perspective that you might not find elsewhere but I've found it to be an odd collection of the depressed. To engage that stuff regularly one almost comes off as wanting it to happen due to how much time they've invested in believing it to be true. The world at large will likely go through reorganization with all sorts of scattered displacement and suffering but if you are in your 30s in america, nothing yet is really pointing to any type of extreme suffering in your life due to climate change.
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One person I can think of who has tried to do basically what you are saying, and doesn't look weird with a grey beard, is Jess Spear. Her opponents in the establishment have co-opted any message she had and packaged it in a more 'reasonable' manner. She hasn't really come close to winning despite being correct and all that. She now campaigns for a higher minimum wage.
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May 25, 2015 11:48
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What about bringing your own bags when grocery shopping? I remember when only dirty hippies did that.
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May 25, 2015 23:26
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SKELETONS posted:but solar radiation management via SO2 seeding would cost like 50million/year max, literally any nation could afford to do it singlehandedly.
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May 26, 2015 16:58
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http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/511016/a-cheap-and-easy-plan-to-stop-global-warming/ http://archive.wired.com/science/planetearth/magazine/16-07/ff_geoengineering?currentPage=all http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/05/14/the-climate-fixers Choose which ever researcher and study you want to believe! "while geoengineering could presumably lower the planet's temperature, it cannot correct the other consequences of mounting carbon dioxide pollution. For instance, as the oceans absorb more CO2 they acidify, and decreasing ocean pH levels threaten coral reefs and other marine ecosystems. No amount of stratospheric sulfate can reverse that." Carbon in the atmosphere is not our only problem either.
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May 27, 2015 11:41
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ANIME AKBAR posted:So this is the energy policy equivalent of death panels So you are choosing based on price and possibly conscience as opposed to being told not to do something
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May 31, 2015 08:26
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Al Gore is rich, it is a complex story http://www.fastcompany.com/60067/al-gores-100-million-makeover
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"Over a year ago I changed my diet to a vegan diet, really just to experiment to see what it was like," he says. "And I felt better, so I continued with it. Now, for many people, that choice is connected to environmental ethics and health issues and all that stuff, but I just wanted to try it to see what it was like. In a visceral way, I felt better, so I've continued with it and I'm likely to continue it for the rest of my life." http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/blogs/al-gore-says-hell-likely-stay-vegan-for-life Face it, Al gore is better than you.
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Jun 4, 2015 18:01
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Dmitry Orlov has written some interesting stuff but not sure it matches up with what you are looking for.
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Jul 19, 2015 06:41
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-point-of-no-return-climate-change-nightmares-are-already-here-20150805 Don't mean to get all hurr, better check your facts first so quick but in the first paragraph you already see something that is incorrect. Olympic National Park has burned many times in recent memory. http://www.nps.gov/olym/learn/management/fire-history.htm
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Aug 6, 2015 14:01
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http://www.adn.com/article/20150927/shell-says-it-will-abandon-oil-exploration-alaska-arctic Shell says it will abandon oil exploration in Alaska Arctic “Investors don’t want Shell to deliver more [capital expenditures] into Alaska,” Bernstein research analyst Oswald Clint told WSJ. “I imagine investors will be OK with a $1 billion hit versus tens of billions in the future.”
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Sep 28, 2015 15:08
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Yup http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...a395_story.html
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Bill Nye and National Geographic have produced some neat stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIpr0SwJncs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra1M7XyyIDA The show down with a Florida congressman is really telling.
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